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Ya DB, one way or another, this room is gonna get tied together!

Quote from: Hominid on May 08, 2013, 11:51:52 PM
Ya DB, one way or another, this room is gonna get tied together!

Fuckin' eh, mang!

Group hug followed by group rug. Then, smoke some group drug or drink some group mug. Hopefully no group thug will piss on the group rug. That would be not a style to be dug.

Yeah, I sort of addressed this before, but let me just go on record as saying IMDO that Dudeism should never be mistaken for a hippy-dippy (no offense against the hippies, per se) philosophy of "it's all good" or "anything goes" or "it all works out in the end" or "people are basically good" and any of that so-called "spiritual" stuff. In fact I see Dudeism as a palliative to both pessimism and optimism. A friend of mine recently wrote an article about that in the Dudespaper. Dudeism is fundamentally pragmatic. It's about finding out what works best for any given situation or group of people without resorting to fundamentalism or idealism. It supports freedoms that do not hurt others. That is to say that while it tries to promote freedom of thought and lifestyle, it is against anything that hurts other people (with exception - sometimes people's feelings are not as important as rational dialogue - which is the problem with criticizing religion these days.)

But in the case of this whole kerfuffle, I'm not sure that the line is so clearly drawn in the sand. I think people should be allowed to criticize groups of people, cultures, ways of life, religious beliefs, habits of dress, or whatever, without fear of being labeled a racist. Abideist was clearly waaaay out of line with his first comment, but I think he drew back to an acceptable (though still pretty impolite) position. However, is it Dudeist for him to talk like that? Absolutely not. Does Dudeism support this kind of attitude? Absolutely not. Does Dudeism seek to bring people together instead of driving them apart? Absolutely. And what follows from that is that we have to realize that we're all a bunch of goddamn morons sometimes - even though we feel righteous, we may not be right. (not a dig at Righteous Dude) So it's up to us to at least try to perform Dude Jitsu on the unDude. Sometimes we think and say very unDude things. And it is up to the Dudeist Priests in the world to try to fix that by acting in a way that will disarm them and see that their thinking is very uptight.

Honestly, I don't know how anyone who knows anything about Dudeism would ever think that we're supportive of paedophiles, murderers, racists, or any other kind of fucking asshole. Do we really have to spell that out? Do we need a list of commandments? I sure hope not. It was always my feeling that the implicit dictates of Dudeism were sort of self-evident but maybe I'm wrong. I guess Dudeism could benefit from some sort of an explicit set of principles.

QuoteI guess Dudeism could benefit from some sort of an explicit set of principles.

Doing that would kill Dudeism man. It would quash the whole point of the limber mind and all that. As soon as you introduce specific principles to try and account for every situation, you end up in a quagmire of amendments, etc. I think you get my drift. It's the freedoms and adaptability of Dudeism that MAKES it Dudeism.  That's what I see anyway.

I think Abideist was in a bad place in his life and needed to vent... HUGELY. He let his intellectual integrity suffer for his need to express anger. He needed space. Hell, don't we all do that at some point? Maybe given enough time, the flame war would have subsided, but, maybe not. Maybe what he did was cathartic for him, and he knew he had to move on.  All just guesses, but he was attracted to Dudeism because it resonated with him at some level. If his words reflected his true feelings, then he was a fake. But I'm not sure that was the case.

Quote from: RighteousDude on May 08, 2013, 09:28:30 AM

Quote from: meekon5 on May 08, 2013, 07:36:48 AM
... and further proved my formula about names on the forum, watch anyone called "The One True Dude" or "The True Lebowski" or "The King of the Dudes" (you know the type) because they are bound to try to tell everyone else how to do things and usually prove not to be good team players.

So then you're not a linguist, eh? "Righteous dude" is a 1960's/70's (US) slang term meaning, basically, that someone is well liked and can always be counted on. A big part of that is taking up the problems one might have with the person with whom he has them, face to face, rather than waiting until the other guy is walking away  to shoot him in the back. You had not shit to say while the dust was flying, but then when I leave you denigrate me?

Go in peace, brothers. I'm beating feet for greener pastures, but it was fun while it lasted. Be well.

The problem with a forum like this is people will read into something whatever they want.

As with this reply.

Wrong intention read, wrong reply given.

My mistake as to who had done what and who had de-ordained.

Additional:


Wrong intention read, wrong reply given.

by RighteousDude as well.

Sometimes I'm so busy milking my own sacred cow, I don't realise it's shitting on someone else's head.

Quote from: Boston Rockbury on May 09, 2013, 07:14:04 AM
Sometimes I'm so busy milking my own sacred cow, I don't realise it's shitting on someone else's head.

For some reason, there is nothing more boring to me than hearing some self styled pseudo-wisdom master express a thought or opinion in the form of a cheap shot two second proverb or "witty" sounding prose. Not sure why, but they sicken me. Maybe its the subtle hidden arrogance and self serving self righteousness carefully disguised as "wisdom" while in reality being nothing more than insults to oneself and others. Either way you look at it, I mentally puke whenever and wherever I read or hear one. They wreak with one-up-manship and an undeserved display of self given superiority to one's fellow dudes.

Gurus are up their self righteous asses in this kind of shit, and go as far as to control people with them; you know, all the wide eyed morons that follow gurus and "holy men" around hoping that these blood sucking undudes will grace them with enlightenment someday (which never comes) in the form of proverbilcal bull shit. And shit it is; worthy of any horse stable. Most people who drop their witty little lines in the hope of impressing you with their self declared "wisdom" remind me of people dropping off a pungent fart as they walk by your table in a nice restaurant; not welcome at all and irritatingly useless.

Having said that; I have to say that I have always (since first watching TBL) appreciated the ability the dude had in tossing out a proverb here and a witticism there totally void of arrogance or self righteousness... "well, that's just like your opinion, man."

If there is one thing that makes me want to flip the bird in the general direction of anyone, its some douchebag who spits out a "witty proverb" and then smugly waits to be praised by wide eyed knuckleheads who think "wisdom was heard from today." I'm tempted in such times to go Walter on them and shout a healthy "shut the fuck up and bury that shit, you asshat!"

OK then; that's just like my opinion, man.

I'm getting me a lane.

I thought it was pretty funny!

Quote from: forumdude on May 10, 2013, 07:36:31 AM
I thought it was pretty funny!

Me too

oh fuck, i totally misunderstood! i thought you were criticizing Boston for HIS proverb. But it was just the opposite. Man I hate language sometimes. When will we be able to just plug into each other's thoughts with a USB cable?

but it is ironic as well, since this whole thread has been about not understanding each other.

maybe we should turn this thread into a proverb? ha ha.

OK, so I'm lost. (Not the first time...).  DB: what "proverb" what you referring to? Like FD, I thought you were referring to BR.

Quote from: Hominid on May 10, 2013, 08:06:48 AM
OK, so I'm lost. (Not the first time...).  DB: what "proverb" what you referring to? Like FD, I thought you were referring to BR.

None in particular, not even Boston Rockbury's, (though Boston Rockbury's did remind me of that pet peev of mine) it was just the concept as a whole. And possibly a reason to bitch at something.

Quote from: forumdude on May 10, 2013, 07:57:09 AM
oh fuck, i totally misunderstood! i thought you were criticizing Boston for HIS proverb. But it was just the opposite. Man I hate language sometimes. When will we be able to just plug into each other's thoughts with a USB cable?

but it is ironic as well, since this whole thread has been about not understanding each other.

maybe we should turn this thread into a proverb? ha ha.

Yeah, good point; but think of the brain viruses we would spread!

I actually didn't think he meant BR's comment. I get what he's saying since I've read & heard some stupid one-liners, such as Ramtha bullshit, Abraham generalities, and so on.

I have a "friend" who does that. He'll quote something or reword something. When you ask what he means, you get "Oh, it's too hard to explain. You won't understand."