Buddist monks kill muslims!!!!

[LotsaBadKarma]

Whoa dudes, what's up with all the tension? I have an excellent friend (a real friend, not a FB friend) who is a Turkish Muslim. He is about the gentlest dude I have ever met in my life and is always there for me. For myself I refuse to make a blanket judgement of all the people in whatever cult they happen to have been brainwashed by. Lest anyone forget, the Catholic church over the course of time made Adolph Hitler look like the moderator of a bowling league in terms of widespread murder and mayhem. Even though I'm new in here I'm kinda old in the world and have had a bunch of various experiences with people of all sorts.

I mean it's a short jump from Fuck Muslims to Fuck (Insert hated group here) or any other group that I happen to not like at the moment. If people are left alone they generally will return the favor. Maybe if some groups stopped crapping in other groups' yards a lot of the insanity would stop.

Let's not forget history, dudes. This shit didn't just start with 9-11. It's been going on for a while.

[Caesar dude]

Personally, and I may be shunned by my fellow dudes for saying this, but FUCK muslims

That is not a very dudeist way to go through life!

I know several Muslims with a far more tolerant attitude than you are displaying! If it were up to you then I assume that any Muslim dudes here would be banned!

Britain is facing that challenge now

Only if you read the daily mail! A couple of examples. Where I live there is a Muslim community made up of Muslims form various nationalities. They integrate well here and don't preach hate or incite violence! In Edinburgh where my sister lives there is a central Mosque which has an attached restaurant which only opens for lunch and serves typical ethnic fare. It's basic, ie. you pay £4.00 and are given a big bowl of whatever is being served that day along with some Arabic bread. The place is packed out everyday with mainly non Muslims! No sign of radicalisation there either!

http://www.tripadvisor.co.uk/Restaurant_Review-g186525-d1023923-Reviews-The_Mosque_Kitchen-Edinburgh_Scotland.html

islam does pose a threat to freedom, democracy, security and human rights.

No more or less than Catholicism does! Africa for instance, where the religion is spreading along with AIDS because of the Churches refusal to back down on condoms. The IRA. And any untold number of atrocities carried out in the name of the Christian God over the last several hundred years.

Only a tiny minority of Muslims are terrorists and support violence. Yes I'm sure that they would like to convert everyone on the planet to their way of thinking...but then again so would the pope!!

As I said previously. To "hate" all Muslims is very very undude. For all means condemn the murderers and those that support violence but at least condemn all those of whatever nationality and religion that do the same.

Peace.

[Boston Rockbury]

There are clearly some problems with certain expressions of Islam but to jump from that to 'fuck muslims' is to forget that these people are our brothers and sisters.

If they are "our brothers and sisters" then they need to start acting like it.

They are acting like it - my friend Sadar Zaman from Pakistan just joined the FB dudeism page. He was the first person to offer to help with 'The little Sisters of Redemption'. Making enemies out of dudely folk just because they happen to be brought up muslim isn't going to help anyone.

[LotsaBadKarma]

There are clearly some problems with certain expressions of Islam but to jump from that to 'fuck muslims' is to forget that these people are our brothers and sisters.

If they are "our brothers and sisters" then they need to start acting like it.

They are acting like it - my friend Sadar Zaman from Pakistan just joined the FB dudeism page. He was the first person to offer to help with 'The little Sisters of Redemption'. Making enemies out of dudely folk just because they happen to be brought up muslim isn't going to help anyone.

Plus it's exhausting.

[RighteousDude]

This here thread is stuck in this old duder's head and I ain't real sure how to get it out without taking some brain out with it. It's just got my condition all kinds of fucked up, like a C5 Galaxy overloaded with paraquat just crashed into my fucking mountain. If this hatred and fear mongering shit is Dudeism, then I've been misleading those to whom I've explained that it's truly not a big fucking joke.

I'm going to turn in my rented shoes for now and pop back around after the semis. Later on, brothers.

[Caesar dude]

If this hatred and fear mongering shit is Dudeism, then I've been misleading those to whom I've explained that it's truly not a big fucking joke.

I agree. Shouldn't we all just say fuck it, let's go bowling for a while?

Grab a Lane RighteousDude, I'll be with yah innabit.

Peace.

[Father Dude]

Very undude.

Honestly it breaks my heart to see members of a peaceful philosophy (which I have a little background in before becoming a dudeist) perform such horrible acts. Sadly the 1% of any religion are going to be assholes.

[Caesar dude]

Honestly it breaks my heart to see members of a peaceful philosophy (which I have a little background in before becoming a dudeist) perform such horrible acts. Sadly the 1% of any religion are going to be assholes.

It upsets me that that any Dudeist can preach hatred.

Must be that 1% you're talking about.

[Masked Dude]

Whoa, dudes, chill for a sec. Grab a J, grab an adult beverage, rub one out, something.

While we may not agree with the blanket "fuck 'em" statement, we shouldn't pounce all over anyone. Why not calmly ask why he said it and not just assume anything about his character?

[Caesar dude]

we shouldn't pounce all over anyone. Why not calmly ask why he said it and not just assume anything about his character?

I'm not pouncing on any dude!

I'm responding to more than just the

FUCK muslims

I'm really really disappointed in the intolerance being shown.

In particular I'm responding to

they are always first to violence, they are always hateful and boasting, and they are liars

and

Guess you never lost anyone to muslim terrorists.  Maybe you're one of them.

The first quote could be a direct quote from many many foreign states about the good old US of A!

The first part of the second quote is disingenuous at best. and the second part down right insulting and very partitioning.

Allow me to explain! I have lost a fair few friends to "Muslims" albeit Muslims fighting for what they believe in: ie. their country! I'll say it again. In Iraq we respected our enemy...in Afghan the same. No one asked us to invade and if they had invaded us we would be doing the same to them! Get some perspective here! All of my military and ex military buddies have respect for the enemy. Grudging at times I admit but none the less we understand where they are coming from.

The second part of that quote automatically excludes any Muslim from becoming a dude and therefore maintains that Dudeism is no better than any other organised religion. ie. totally intolerant!

Ok. I'll be nice and ask why one particular dude. HATES so much. As far as I am concerned hatred has no place in Dudeism and if you hate that much then you're not just Walter your an UNdude. (if that's a word.)

Peace.

[RighteousDude]

The first part of the second quote is disingenuous at best. and the second part down right insulting and very partitioning.

I was not insulted. What I am, though, is very seriously considering parting company because I will not be associated with the preaching of hatred. If that's okay here, then I'm so fucking gone that the vacuum in my wake will suck your memory of my user name right out of your head.

[MindAbiding]

Dudes,

I myself dabble in pacifism, and tend to think that we should hold ourselves to a higher standard than intolerance (but you know, that's just like... well, you know).  It seems to me that uptight thinking of the most extreme variety is the real problem.  Extremism of any sort is bound to lead to atrocities, and extremism is something that can emerge from any ethos -- religious, economic, cultural, you name it -- once it's taken too far.

There are two sad ironies, dudes.  One of them is that hating a group because you perceive they hate everyone is just a way of legitimizing hatred all around.  It doesn't actually do anything, man.  The other is that, you know, blanket intolerance of Muslims is no more a reflection of the principles of most Dudeists than... well, than terrorism is a reflection of the principles of most Muslims.

Peace, my dudely brothers and sisters.

[Caesar dude]

When I started this thread I guess it was to show that even Buddhist monks can be undudely at times.

I did not expect that it would throw up some extremely undude like behaviour in our brother/sistership.

I did not expect that the ensuing debate would create a situation in which one of our brethren would wish to disavow himself because of the words of a fellow "dude".

I accept his reservations and I totally understand where he is coming from but do not accept his resignation as a dude because of the words of one fellow minister.

The same as I do not accept that the words of a few Muslim preachers have any bearing on Islaam.

We don't accept preachiness so why should we accept racism, or religionism or ANY fucking ism?

As I said in my original post.

FFS Peace!

[DigitalBuddha]

Islam, religion of peace?...............

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=64V09tTIjR4&feature=player_embedded

[Caesar dude]

I currently can't see youtube or any streaming videos...could you give me a synopsis of what you are linking to please.