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My brother would fall asleep on the back, so my dad started bungy cording him to the bike.

Quote from: revgms on April 25, 2013, 08:55:06 PM
My brother would fall asleep on the back, so my dad started bungy cording him to the bike.

My second wife used to nap on the back all the time, but the first time freaked her right the fuck out and for an instant after she woke with a start I was worried that she'd gone crazy and was throwing me off the bike. It was late at night and I had my backrest reclined and my feet out on the highway pegs, just running along in the 82MPH sweet spot listening to the tunes, then all of a sudden her left hand shot past my head and the right was shoving on my shoulder. She couldn't have jumped off of the damn bike if she'd wanted to, so falling off wasn't even a concern -- with me in front, the trunk behind, and folding armrests on both sides the most harm she could do would be to wake up with a crick in her neck.

After a while it became her habit on road trips to take a siesta after lunch. 

Okay. I've read enough.

Forgive my previous modern parlance, but when did I say I hate muslims?   

I DID NOT, I love everyone equally. Let me apologize sincerely, I am sorry for putting so much negative energy out there, I have had a rough time with tolerating the ignorance of religious groups, it has snaked it's way into hearts and minds of most people I know and care about in one way or another, their choice or against their will.  I am also a bit heavy on my walter side some times, and I wanted to correct the angst against Buddhists for being blamed for the riot.  Additionally, when I wrote 'fuck muslims' it wasn't any different than me saying 'fucking nihilist' , I'll try and justify that statement with the common knowledge that the majority of muslim groups do CURRENTLY in our Modern times, wish jihad and death on all non believers.  So that includes dudeists. So really, the only people that want dudes dead, are muslims.

and fuck that! That's not cool dudes. So I'm sorry I lit a fire under yalls asses, and spoke out with my bad American self. It was wrong to go that far and include every muslim in that statement. I should have said. "Fuck THOSE fucking muslims". 

as far as your muslim friend joining dudeism, I'm glad he is now a dude  And im sorry for presuming you might be muslim yourself RicheousDude.

Maybe someday I can forgive and forget all the things I've seen and heard about that Islamic culture has effected, and don't think for a second that I believe it's purely one sided. I know these evil acts come out of our own governments, and from all religions as well. I'm fully aware of the horrible nature that religion can be, and still is. That is why I became a dudeist.  I am a spiritual person, and I have a mind of my own and a mouth that sometimes lets out too much information.

However, do not misunderstand me.  I've finished my coffee.

Nothing is fucked here, dude, nothing is fucked.

Abeidist:

QuoteI'll try and justify that statement with the common knowledge that the majority of muslim groups do CURRENTLY in our Modern times, wish jihad and death on all non believers.

So nothing has changed!

This is your view. That the MAJORITY of Muslims wish Jihad and death on all non believers!

Nuff said!

You clearly have not understood the dudeist message and are still harbouring very undudely thoughts to anyone of the Muslim faith. I thought you were better than that.

I have two words. Fuck you.

Quote from: Caesar dude on May 05, 2013, 07:17:22 PM
I have two words.

A feller much wiser'n myself once said, "Never try to teach a pig to sing. It wastes your time and it annoys the pig". 

Quote from: RighteousDude on May 05, 2013, 07:34:26 PM

Quote from: Caesar dude on May 05, 2013, 07:17:22 PM
I have two words.

A feller much wiser'n myself once said, "Never try to teach a pig to sing. It wastes your time and it annoys the pig". 

There is a lot to be said for that statement! I am going to use it at the very next opportunity!

Peace

Quote from: DigitalBuddha on May 05, 2013, 05:26:50 AM
Nothing is fucked here, dude, nothing is fucked.

Yes it is DB yes it is!

One of our dudely community thinks that it is "common knowledge" that the majority of Muslim groups wish Jihad and death on all non believers!

I'd like to see some citations for this: "common knowledge" I'd like to see some compassion for fellow human beings. I'd like to see a retraction of his statement at the very least!

I'd like to see some form of leadership from our dudely Lama or the moderators on this board.

I'd like to believe that you MISread Abideist's post and just said "nothing is fucked" because you didn't read it properly.

I'd like to see someone else other than just me and Righteous dude with the same opinion. That this out and out racism and xenophobia just should should not be allowed to stand on this site.

I seriously want some answers to the above and if I don't get them then I will be rethinking my whole position on Dudeism.

Peace.

Ah c'mon Dudes I thought we were past this.

Now, I don't quite agree with Abideist's sentiment, but I don't think a bunch of guys dropping exclamation points on a forum is gonna change his mind. As Dudes we must learn to abide many things, and this guy's opinion is just one of those things. And although I think it's wise to keep those kinds of opinions to yourself, I also think that you shouldn't abandon Dudeism just because of this one guy.

I hate to sound like I'm tolerating intolerance, but Dudeism teaches us how to deal with these kind of interactions in a way that doesn't over-involve ourselves.

Peace

Quote from: BrotherShamus on May 05, 2013, 10:44:01 PM
Ah c'mon Dudes I thought we were past this.

Now, I don't quite agree with Abideist's sentiment, but I don't think a bunch of guys dropping exclamation points on a forum is gonna change his mind. As Dudes we must learn to abide many things, and this guy's opinion is just one of those things. And although I think it's wise to keep those kinds of opinions to yourself, I also think that you shouldn't abandon Dudeism just because of this one guy.

I hate to sound like I'm tolerating intolerance, but Dudeism teaches us how to deal with these kind of interactions in a way that doesn't over-involve ourselves.

Peace

That's exactly what you are doing: Tolerating intolerance.

It's what the Catholic church does with paedophilia. If no one stands against blatant hatred and intolerance then  where the fuck does that leave us as a so called peaceful and abiding religion?

I had sort of hoped that Abideist's response would have been a little more contrite and rather less blatant about his clear views.

I don't want to change his mind if that is his point of view. That's his prerogative. I just refuse to be associated with him and any organisation that allows it.

If his statement was about coloured people or jews or gays then maybe there would be more reaction.

Intolerance cannot and should not be condoned here of all places.

I do not think I am wrong!

The reason we should tolerate intolerance is so that we can call it out and explain why it is wrong or right. There are things we should tolerate and things we shouldn't tolerate. Ideally an open forum would bring new shit to light and make everyone more clear on what the issue is. Sadly, this isn't always the case - as the comments section of any far left or far right news site will attest to.

For now, this forum seems to be one of the rare places on the 'Net in which discussions seem to end up more or less at a higher level by the end of it. We're only going to ban people if they're really fucking up the flow of dialogue or being threatening. Saying you hate a group of people isn't a threat - it's just an impolite opinion, and one which most of you guys have shown patiently to be the result of not considering deeply enough the opinion before expressing it. So Kudos and Dudos to all of you.

There has been a lot of Muslim bashing on this forum. Let's remember that there are plenty of Muslim-raised Dudeists out there who will be turned off to Dudeism by this. Let's try and be cool about our criticisms, not to censor them but just so they don't have an alienating effect. M'kay?

Well I'm calling it!

I don't like it. I don't think it's appropriate and I don't think it's at all dudeist.

If someone started spouting racist hatred such as " that the majority of black people fuck monkeys. Or "It is common knowledge that the majority of Jews should be burned because they eat babies" or " It is common knowledge that the majority of Scottish people would sell their families into slavery"

Would that be Tolerated!??

I've never talked about banning anyone! I have never indicated that! I am asking for clarification on what is and what is not considered "Dudeist"

I'm saying that I cannot and will not associate myself with a religion that wishes peace and harmony but has an "anything goes policy".

I guess what you are saying is paedophiles, despots and serial killers can all be dudes as long as they don't rock the boat too much and we give them space?

Quote from: forumdude on May 06, 2013, 12:15:41 AM
The reason we should tolerate intolerance is { ... }

So how does one go about resigning his ordination? I will not be associated with this shit.

Just a thought; it is possible that some dudes feel a bit free to bash Muslims here in the forum because there is some Muslim (or perhaps Arab) bashing in the Big Lebowski; that is to say Walter calling them "camel fuckers...a bunch of fig-eaters with towels on their heads tryin' to find reverse on a Soviet tank. This is not a worthy--"

It has to be remembered the Coen brothers are Jewish and might be perhaps taking some liberty in their movie to subtlety take a shot or two at Arabs and Muslims. But, having said that; they also take a shot or two at their own culture and religion by making the somewhat wacko Walter, a fanatical Jewish convert from Catholicism, rant and rave about "Shomer fucking Shabbos!"and his comical quote "Three thousand years of beautiful tradition, from Moses to Sandy Koufax," not to mention Walter's monologue about the Rambam while walking out to the Dude's burnt out car. This might be a reason that dudes feel a bit free to vent some anger and frustration over the doings of some members of Islam.

Am I wrong, or just an asshole?

IMHO

Quote from: DigitalBuddha on May 06, 2013, 01:18:38 AM
Am I wrong, or just an asshole?

For what it's worth, you're neither. But the proof is in the actions, and this has been proven to be a movie cult curio shop rather than an ethos, worldview, or religion. It doesn't fucking stand for anything at all, man. Kinda sucks that I deluded myself that it did.

Oh well. Live and learn.

Maybe I'll see you Dudes around in some other part of the internet. Be well!