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Bullett00th

Quote from: Nervine on July 31, 2014, 10:41:39 AM
The only thing I'm gonna say about this whole circus is that both sides are wrong and it should just stop.
Why not create a new nation? Let's call it Palestisrael.
Shake hands, live together, take it easy, amen.
The world doesn't work like that, and it's easy to say when you don't know the motives of these people. Seeing a friend's or relative's mutilated body is a sight disturbing enough to make even a pacifist wish death to those who pulled the trigger or launched the missile and ANYONE associated with them. Maybe they would even want to pull the trigger themselves and fire back. They won't think about the fact that they will probably kill someone who has friends and family who never wanted this conflict. This is how this plague spreads. Like fire.

Quote from: revgms on July 31, 2014, 11:17:56 AM
Er...I guess I would blame the extremists on both sides. Clearly there are assholes on both sides of that border. I would bet there are millions of citizens on both sides who would rather chill the fuck out and go back to doing business together, so they can all make money, not war. But Hamas sucks and so do the extremists in Israel.
as always. as with Russia and Ukraine. as with USA and Russia. The list goes on.
These hatreds are stupid and mostly artificial. I mean if it was the whole nation then the whole world would despise Germany for a long time, especially ex-USSR countries. There is zero hatred for Germans though, even quite the contrary.

jgiffin

Assholes abound on both sides. Abso-fucking-lutely.

But, to date, only one side has a democratically elected party with a platform expressly stating the other side doesn't have a right to exist (or, in an alternate translation, should be obliterated - feel free to parse the vast semantic distinction).

Rev. Gary (revgms)

I dunno, every time I hear one side or the other speak all I hear is...
http://youtu.be/J1uL3TqAlbk

Bullett00th

Quote from: revgms on August 01, 2014, 07:25:23 PM
I dunno, every time I hear one side or the other speak all I hear is...
http://youtu.be/J1uL3TqAlbk
Disturbed are spot on with their lyrics about politics and war. Avarice is another great example, as well as Device's Out of Line.

The song I've found it's easiest to relate to when it comes to artificial conflicts is We Believe by Ministry:

Tensions on both sides
We're paralyzed and victimized
We're terrified and petrified
Demoralized and mortified
Of genocide and suicide
And patricide and cyanide
We're pacified by every side
Force-fed pride and then we die for them