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In the basement of an Islamic seminary, young children were freed in a police raid... they were beaten till they bled, and were chained to the walls.

How's that for religion people?  

Story here: http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2011/12/13/police-raid-in-pakistan-finds-chained-students-at-religious-school/?iref=allsearch

I lost the article and I can't even remember if I found it on here or not. Within the past few weeks in Saudi Arabia a woman was beheaded for practicing witchcraft.

Saw this on the news last night.

Much like the "Satanic" child abuse sects, I think it's people using the trimmings to get their jollies rather than an aspect of the religion.

The supposedly "Satanic" groups use the props to scare and control the kids, I think it's the same sort of thing here. People using Islam to get the control they want of kids again.

As much as I respect the beliefs of people's religious views, I have to say that the world needs to do what ever it has to do to rid the planet of islamic extremists and sharia law. Sharia law, and I mention it because it was probably activity by these muslims based on sharia law, has to be internationally outlawed and considered a crime against humanity.

I hope the human paraquat assholes running the school do hard time is some Pakistan shit hole of a jail. One can only hope so.

Quote from: DigitalBuddha on December 14, 2011, 06:49:11 PM
As much as I respect the beliefs of people's religious views, I have to say that the world needs to do what ever it has to do to rid the planet of islamic extremists and sharia law. Sharia law, and I mention it because it was probably activity by these muslims based on sharia law, has to be internationally outlawed and considered a crime against humanity.

I hope the human paraquat assholes running the school do hard time is some Pakistan shit hole of a jail. One can only hope so.

Totally with you dude. I read today that rape victims are jailed, and the men get away with it. Wow. Just... wow...

I just hear that Presidential hopeful rick Santorum would support racial profiling in the United States.

Quote from: Landshark on December 14, 2011, 07:33:10 PM
I just hear that Presidential hopeful rick Santorum would support racial profiling in the United States.

Is that a good thing or a bad thing?

Quote from: Hominid on December 14, 2011, 06:57:21 PM

Quote from: DigitalBuddha on December 14, 2011, 06:49:11 PM
As much as I respect the beliefs of people's religious views, I have to say that the world needs to do what ever it has to do to rid the planet of islamic extremists and sharia law. Sharia law, and I mention it because it was probably activity by these muslims based on sharia law, has to be internationally outlawed and considered a crime against humanity.

I hope the human paraquat assholes running the school do hard time is some Pakistan shit hole of a jail. One can only hope so.

Totally with you dude. I read today that rape victims are jailed, and the men get away with it. Wow. Just... wow...

There was a case in iran where several men had raped a TEENAGED GIRL, they were convicted in a sharia court and given a short jail sentenced that was suspended because they had "promised to not do it again," meanwhile, the young girl was sentenced to death by hanging by the judge for adultery EVEN THOUGH the judge knew she was raped. Being raped didn't matter, trying to defend themselves was "attempted murder;" she was still found guilty of "adultery or behavior incompatible with Chasity." The judge, to be sure the sentence was carried out, went to the town where she was to be hanged to make sure it happened; she was hung as the judged watched and declared it "the will of allah." She was 17. FUCKING 17!! ....and a rape victim!

Story here - http://www.iranfocus.com/en/?option=com_content&task=view&id=5183

Here are some similar reports-

 http://www.canadafreepress.com/2006/swank010906.htm

http://www.eutimes.net/2011/02/14yr-old-rape-victim-beaten-to-death-by-islamic-court/

Why isn't this shit outlawed and punished? I don't get it. The word "travesty" isn't adequate...

Quote from: Hominid on December 15, 2011, 03:56:52 AM
Why isn't this shit outlawed and punished? I don't get it. The word "travesty" isn't adequate...

Good question; as in the case of that fucking asshole of a "judge" who needs to be indited, tried and hung! Problem is that the international court at The Hague has no authority to execute people guilty of crimes against humanity. Personally, I believe that hanging some of these fuckers would send the right signal to islamic counties that this kind of sick barbaric behavior will not be tolerated by the international community, and that there will be serious consequences if they continue. Good Christ, man, hang a 17 year old girl for BEING RAPED, and declare it was "the will of allah." These fuckers are sick!!

Yeah, I don't think this is a religious thing.  Nothing in Islam teaches such things, just like nothing in Catholicism teaches pedastry (although there is some grounds for it in Buddhism in the past).

This has nothing to do with religion, it's to do with people.  There are plenty of cases of this sort of thing in Europe done by atheists... so would you say atheism is evil?  I didn't condemn Dudeism for it's violent, pro-gun attitude when I saw the clips of that aborted documentary... I condemned the people, because it's not part of Dudeism, and Dudeism doesn't promote gun culture.  Likewise, Islam does not promote child abuse.

This is a terrible, terrible case, and it saddens my heart, but religion is nothing to do with this.  No extremists are following their own religion.  Not the KKK, not Al'Qaida, not anyone who does anything like this

ps:

Quote from: Hominid on December 14, 2011, 08:10:40 PM

Quote from: Landshark on December 14, 2011, 07:33:10 PM
I just hear that Presidential hopeful rick Santorum would support racial profiling in the United States.

Is that a good thing or a bad thing?

That would be a stomach-churnlingly abysmal thing  
Moving back into the past is a worrying thing, it's always a concern when we have a Tory government here in the UK, much as it is when the US goes into a Republican administration.  Conservative values can get a little extreme at times

Dude, I keep shaking my head, with tears in my eyes... how did it get to this? That was someone's daughter...  There's tons of stories that would make anyone weep, but to have that kind of behavior enshrined in law raises my ire... and confirms my hatred of religion.

Quote from: Rev. Ed C on December 15, 2011, 04:18:23 AM
Yeah, I don't think this is a religious thing.  Nothing in Islam teaches such things, just like nothing in Catholicism teaches pedastry (although there is some grounds for it in Buddhism in the past).

This has nothing to do with religion, it's to do with people.  There are plenty of cases of this sort of thing in Europe done by atheists... so would you say atheism is evil?  I didn't condemn Dudeism for it's violent, pro-gun attitude when I saw the clips of that aborted documentary... I condemned the people, because it's not part of Dudeism, and Dudeism doesn't promote gun culture.  Likewise, Islam does not promote child abuse.

This is a terrible, terrible case, and it saddens my heart, but religion is nothing to do with this.  No extremists are following their own religion.  Not the KKK, not Al'Qaida, not anyone who does anything like this

ps:

Quote from: Hominid on December 14, 2011, 08:10:40 PM

Quote from: Landshark on December 14, 2011, 07:33:10 PM
I just hear that Presidential hopeful rick Santorum would support racial profiling in the United States.

Is that a good thing or a bad thing?

That would be a stomach-churnlingly abysmal thing 
Moving back into the past is a worrying thing, it's always a concern when we have a Tory government here in the UK, much as it is when the US goes into a Republican administration.  Conservative values can get a little extreme at times

I hear you dude, just like the laws of physics aren't responsible for the A-bomb, but religion is FAR too much of an excuse for this shit, as well as a convenient justification for it.  Yes, it's the people that are corrupt, but if these religious writings didn't give so much leeway in interpretation, perhaps Sharia law wouldn't exist in the first place. Which is my point... You wouldn't get away with this in Canada or the US. Again, the behavior is ENSHRINED in Sharia law...

As for the case of Iran... they're just about the most backward nation in the middle east, as far as I'm concerned.

Britian has been trying to tackle human rights issues with Iran for decades to little or no avail.  Of course, the fact that in the past couple of weeks Iran and the UK have broken of some diplomatic ties due to the issue of embassies, we've got even less clout than before (we've gone from almost noneatall to actually noneatall).

The UK has many, many Iranians who've escape Iran in the past few decades to live a life of freedom, away from fear, the sort of thing you expect from a wartorn country.  So how bad must the human rights situation of a peaceful country be to cause such reactions in its people?

Iran is one of the most scary countires in the world, because its government, and at the moment, it's particularly dangerous president.  If any country badly needed a regime change, it was aways Iran!  And yet, it's not one of the countires involved in the Arab Spring... but I get the feeling it would turn into another Syria if that happened, answering the cries of the people with bullets.  Unlike the more liberal Arab states, like Tunisia and Egypt, Iran has used its ultra conservative, high-pressure regime to kettle the will of its people, sapping the strength to rise up...

Guh... I could go on brooding over Iran for hours, but that's going to achieve anything new.  And a lot of that is possibly just my opinion... but I'm pretty sure its sadly not

...and the human race is supposedly "evolved".  Pfff.... If anyone ever catches me complaining about my life, just shoot me.

So, on the bright side, where I live, I have no oppressors: no Catholic priests trying to suck my dick, no Islamists at my throat for drawing a cartoon or writing fiction about their deity, or right-wing born-again fundamentalists telling me my wacko neighbor is allowed to own a garage-full of semi-automatic rifles...

So, um...

Sorry, lost my train of thought there...