Bill Nye VS Ken Hamm (Creation Museum)

[Hominid]

When you agree to publicly debate a clown, you legitimize his clownish beliefs. This is just stupidity as performance art.

I like your style dude...

[meekon5]

When you agree to publicly debate a clown, you legitimize his clownish beliefs. This is just stupidity as performance art.

Never argue with an idiot. He will drag you down to his level, then beat you with experience.

I always thought this was a Homer Simpson Quote but it seems someone got there first.

The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits.

It takes considerable knowledge just to realize the extent of your own ignorance.

Sorry I've just found a whole page of these.

Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.

[cckeiser]

If you like quotes....you will Love this site!
http://www.quotationspage.com/quotes/Bertrand_Russell/

I have it linked to Bertrand Russell, but after each quote there's a link to more quotes by others on the same subject.
Hours and hours of reading pleasure!

[meekon5]

If you like quotes....you will Love this site!
http://www.quotationspage.com/quotes/Bertrand_Russell/...

Damn you CC I have enough trouble with my low concentration quotient and Stumble Upon as it is.

Now you've given me more distraction.

Thanks mate.

[Yeti]

I like your style dude...

Back'atcha, brother.

[cckeiser]

If you like quotes....you will Love this site!
http://www.quotationspage.com/quotes/Bertrand_Russell/...

Damn you CC I have enough trouble with my low concentration quotient and Stumble Upon as it is.

Now you've given me more distraction.

Thanks mate.

Yeah....sorry dude. I was actually thinking about you when I posted that link....I recognized a fellow addict!
It's funny though.....give a dude a few hundred word article to read and we get tired half way through....too many words man....but break it down into "sound bites" of a dozen words or so at a time and we will read thousands of words with no problem!

[Hominid]

If you like quotes....you will Love this site!
http://www.quotationspage.com/quotes/Bertrand_Russell/...

Damn you CC I have enough trouble with my low concentration quotient and Stumble Upon as it is.

Now you've given me more distraction.

Thanks mate.

Yeah....sorry dude. I was actually thinking about you when I posted that link....I recognized a fellow addict!
It's funny though.....give a dude a few hundred word article to read and we get tired half way through....too many words man....but break it down into "sound bites" of a dozen words or so at a time and we will read thousands of words with no problem!

It's called a short attention sp......   sorry, what day is this??

[Rev. Iconocclesiastes]

Like BD says, religion is adult thumb-sucking.

Well, that's your opinion, man.  You don't want anybody shoving religion down your throat, or the throats of your kids?  Well, then do not shove your nililistic atheism down mine or anybody else's, man, lest you become a hypocrite.

Has anybody else noticed how most of you, here on this forum, take the word "abide" to mean to simple-mindedly go along with whatever you're told to think?  That is not what the word "abide" means.  To "abide" does not mean to "shut-up-and-submit-to-the-powers-that-be".   That's a propagandized, politically-agendized misappropriation of what it means to "abide".  And that's also why I see some of you behaving as phony poser cultists.

What is sad to me, is the fact that Oliver seems to go along with it.  THAT I do not get.  Why does he let it happen??  Look at the Dudespaper and Dudeism sites; you get very different version of Dudeism there.  This ghost-town forum is not exactly hopping with activity, and other Dudeists I have communicated with generally say that they avoid this forum because of its super-controlling and nihilistic atmosphere.

Most of you are merely about posting stupid little things, and busy talking about a whole lot of nothing; the whole concept of Dudeism to most of you is a fairy-tale belief that you seem think gives you an excuse to act like lazy fools.  Actually standing for anything is repulsive to you until it is to be anti-God.  You are mostly all smart-asses and pussies who are full of hatred for those who are not part of your clique.  If you call yourselves Dudiests, then I call you hypocrites and Anti-Dudes. 

Most of you seem to have no real sense of honor and act like the villains of this show.  I have noticed how a lot of you call this "a beach community".  But what you posers do not seem to understand is that this is where the Dude was drugged, sent out to be detained, and assaulted!

I close with something that I posted a while back:

First of all: frankly, I think that some of you just simply do not like Christians and Christianity, and that you are using the Dudeist//Taosist thing as a pretext through which you might ostensibly justify this prejudice.  Otherwise, comments like cckeiser's about being an "anti-theist" would not be necessary, as it's needlessly antagonistic IMO.

For a true dude is not "anti"-anything, in my opinion. 

A true dude favors honesty, humility, and (above all) love.  These are the Three Treasures. 

A true dude opposes greed, hypocrisy, and self-righteousness.  But that (opposing greed, etc.) is different than being "anti"-minded. 

A true dude does not judge others, does not compare him- or her-self to others, and suspends their propensity to understand others. 

In short: a true dude lives, and lets live.

For another thing: became a Dudeist in order to have some kind of like-minded fellowship among the community of other dudes, for intellectual stimulation, to learn from others, and simply to have a few laughs. 

I DID NOT become a Dudeist so that I could get mixed up in some kind of weird quasi-religion, or else some kind of "cult" in the parlance of our times.  In a sense, Dudeism is not "real" to me.  And in a sense, it is. 

Those who know what Dudeism is, do not say, and those who say what Dudeism is, do not know.  This is my realization.

Disagreement does not equal disrespect. Expressing a disagreement does not constitute an ad hominem attack against the person being disagreed with. If it did, then we'd be in trouble, as that's when a "parody religion" turns into an actually destructive "cult".

Non-conformist groups are often just vectors of control for people who take themselves and the groups with which they identify (and indeed, by which they identify themselves) waaaaay to seriously.  And in my estimation, it's not so different here in this forum.  Groupthink is a universal phenomenon, common among all kids of cohesive groups.  And I resist and reject groupthink in all forms, and in all situational contexts.

[Rev. Iconocclesiastes]

And by the way: I'm not gonna serve any ice to anybody, either (for the burn, I mean).

[meekon5]

And by the way: I'm not gonna serve any ice to anybody, either (for the burn, I mean).

That's not a burn.

That's all in your opinion man.

All this shows is what little an idea you actually have.

You've just blown up at a two day old post.

Personally if you really feel this way why bother hanging around?

[Rev. Iconocclesiastes]

Dude, I'm not only speaking for myself.  I'm just serving as a mouthpiece for others who feel as I do, and will not say it themselves.  In other words: it's not just me, and I feel safe in saying that WE are sick of this culty nihilist stuff, in terms of how the mods run the show here.

[Rev. Iconocclesiastes]

Most of you, in my eyes, are hypocrites who have no problem with pushing your atheism (which is comparable to nihilism) on others.

Say what you want about the tenets of New Testament Christianity; at least it's an ethos.

Also: cckeiser says he is anti-theist.  Right.  Well, then why in the world is he advertising Woden with his profile pic?

[meekon5]

Dude, I'm not only speaking for myself.  I'm just serving as a mouthpiece for others who feel as I do, and will not say it themselves.  In other words: it's not just me, and I feel safe in saying that WE are sick of this culty nihilist stuff, in terms of how the mods run the show here.

There is over four thousand members to this forum. What proportion do you claim to represent.

The forum does no present the FaceBook point of view. The Forum has always represented the Taoist Buddhist roots of Dudeism, leaning to the more none religious point of view, a way of being in the world not something you gain from signing up on a web site. Not my  point of view, my experience posting here before becoming an admin.

You've been posting here for less than a month.

Some of us have been here years. You have little point of reference to realise that the majority of the regular posters have backed off in the month you have been posting here.

As I said before no one is forcing you to stay.

The forum existed before you joined, and will continue to exist after you leave.

This is yet another outburst at not getting your own way.

[Rev. Iconocclesiastes]

meekon5, you are a funny guy.  I lurked this forum for months, and it was no more busy back then than it is now. The points of of reference are all over the place, like the dude talking about tenets of Sikhism that seemed dudely to him; these kinds of faith-based posts often got same kind of result.   It seems that Christians get the biggest attacks and "flames" every time.  It's prejudice, bigotry, I tell you.  Plain and simple.  Hypocrisy.

[Masked Dude]

And as usual, it's declined into "Dudeism must be what Iconocclesiastes says it must be."

I for one am getting sick and damn tired of being called names, and we're not allowed to disagree because Iconocclesiastes says so. I'm sick of being called a nihilist because I'm atheist and I dare not to agree. I'm sick of being called a cult because I want people to have differing opinions. I'm sick of being accused of having a clique because one person is being an asshole. I'm sick of being called a cult unless we conform to what ONE person says. ONE FUCKING PERSON. I'm tired of being told I shouldn't have an opinion or say anything, but someone else is allowed to attack others at every opportunity even when we try to be friendly. I can't say anything, I can't reply on certain threads, I can't have an opinion, I can't just abide unless I have some zealot attitude to push onto others. When did I ever say anyone else should be an atheist? When? Find me one reply when I said anyone should or must be one.

Everything is fine and quiet until ONE PERSON decides there must be an argument. What the fuck? When there isn't an argument, such as here (we all agree Ham is an idiot), oh hell no, let's start another argument about posers and cultists and cliques.

There were no problems in the past that weren't handled. But now suddenly we're being held hostage because ONE PERSON decides that Dudeism should be exactly as he sees fit. Oh wait, we're cultists. Wait, we're cliques! Wait, we're posers! Wait, we're hypocrites!

So instead of being easy going, we must make Dudeism into a political or religious pushy group, forcing others into it? We have to become a juggernaut, but only on certain terms? Does anyone else realize that sometimes, abiding means just letting others do their own thing. If they agree, they agree. If they don't, they don't. Abide doesn't mean forming an action committee and pushing things onto others. We're not Jehovah's Witnesses. I'm not knocking on doors asking to speak to others about the Dude.

Oh no, I mentioned a Christian group. I'm back to being a nihilist atheist again. Curses! Now let's completely change Dudeism into what one person wants, because after all, things were perfectly fine in the past before us. So of course it needed change. How dare we have a working group and not realize the error of our ways.

We can't have atheists.
We can't have non-Americans.
We can't have anyone who hasn't watched the movie.
We can't have anyone who will disagree.

There was no burn. Stop thinking that.

Why not just tell us who's allowed to speak and what we're allowed to say. And don't dare say you don't care because that is a lie. Don't say we're all  nihilists because we don't agree. A nihilist is one who totally rejects established norms and institutions; you're doing the same with Dudeism, saying we can't do this because you want to define it.

So just tell us what we can say, who can speak, and how we're supposed to conduct ourselves. Don't claim you're fine with it, because you're not. If not, just drop the bullshit and stick around. There are no cults or cliques or lynch mobs.

Otherwise, fuck it, I want my account deleted. I'm not going to have something I enjoyed hijacked for one person. I'm not kidding.