what is abiding?

[Hominid]

Welcome to our little beach party there M1.  Grab an oat soda - the bar's over there...

[AspiringDude]

Hm, basically all that needs to be said has been said so why am i posting here...hm, dunno.

While I am against being preachy, I don't think anyone needs to preach Dudeism. The thing is...much like Buddhism, people come to it when they are ready for it. That is the point all the big religions (and, sadly, some brands of Buddhism, too) have forgotten. Forced faith is worthless. We don't have to "save" anyone. In some cases - and since I came onto Dudeism a few days ago I did notice that- people will notice that you have started to become more relaxed and easygoing and will ask you why. Then tell them about the core tenets of your philosophy. Maybe ask them to check out the site. If they're down with it, they will stay. If not, they won't.
But we need not worry about that. Life goes on.
And hey, so what if people ridicule us? Are we really worried about what those uptight reactionaries think?
The point here is that, if you want to identify as a Dudeist priest, maybe wear a T-shirt like mentioned on page 5 here somewhere, do that and have fun!
We can still have fun with our religion, also something many of the big ones have forgotten. If being a Dudeist is too exhausting...you're doing something wrong.
Another quote to ponder here is the one from Dogma, paraphrased " It's great if you have an idea...the problem starts when people build a belief system around it."

[Rev. RJ Dudemiester]

This is a facinating thread, and it's always my nature to interject into conversations such as this with the following type inertejction-

the question in the title is what is abiding?
i'm a huge fan of looking deeply into the word itself to inform the discussion of what the 'ism' being defined around the word might be...
i find that contemplating the meanings of a word can be very informative.

a?bide   [uh-bahyd] 
verb (used without object)
1.to remain; continue; stay: Abide with me.
2.to have one's abode; dwell; reside: to abide in a small Scottish village.
3.to continue in a particular condition, attitude, relationship, etc.

verb (used with object)
4.to put up with; tolerate; stand: I can't abide dishonesty!
5.to endure, sustain, or withstand without yielding or submitting: to abide a vigorous onslaught.
6.to wait for; await: to abide the coming of the Lord.
7.to accept without opposition or question: to abide the verdict of the judges.
8.to pay the price or penalty of; suffer for.

[SeekWa]

There is the age-old myth that when the student is ready, the teacher appears. And that the 'greatest' teachers are often frustratingly anonymous, somewhat impossible to find. With that in mind...

The sage abides in the condition of wu-wei (unattached action).
And carries out the wordless teaching.
Here, the myriad things are made, yet not separated.

Therefore the sage produces without possessing,
Acts without expectations
And accomplishes without abiding in her accomplishments.

It is precisely because she does not abide in them
That they never leave her.

[RighteousDude]

There is the age-old myth that when the student is ready, the teacher appears.

Uh huh. That some kind of Eastern thing? 

[Hominid]

The age of the guru is over. We are our own teachers. Been through all that shit, all I learned is that they're into their own shit, and they want you to bow to their shit. Fuck it dude, just go bowling. If you've got angst about your learning path, take the path of least resistance.  Just take it easy. Answers will come in good time. Big breath...

[DigitalBuddha]

There is the age-old myth that when the student is ready, the teacher appears.

Or as I say; "when a dude is hungry, an In-And-Out-Burger will appear."

[DigitalBuddha]

The age of the guru is over. We are our own teachers. Been through all that shit, all I learned is that they're into their own shit, and they want you to bow to their shit. Fuck it dude, just go bowling. If you've got angst about your learning path, take the path of least resistance.  Just take it easy. Answers will come in good time. Big breath...

 

[SeekWa]

It is the path of some dudes to say Fuck It, be irreverent, relax, get pissed... and sometimes piss on their own rug. What. Ever. We all do that sometimes. Of course, some dudes groove with teachers, while other dudes ARE teachers, and some dudes kinda feel like they don't really need to be taught anything. I get that. So at the risk of coming across a bit militant about the quote I posted from the Tao, I simply see it saying something simple - that the sage abides, and that it is within abiding that we find the sage.

The anonymous sage is the one we can't find. This isn't necessarily referring to some old naked guy living in cave in Tibet. It seems to me that it is the dark, remote cave within ourselves, the wordless world that we can easily forget exists.

[Shagbeard]

Maybe Abideism is to Dudeism what Zen Buddhism is to Buddhism? The pure experience of Dudeness without the vehicles?

That is cool, that is cool

[Brother D]

Whoa, just read through this thread, interesting stuff, lotta far out views an opinions. Everyone mark it 8.

I am of the more literal mindset and think Abiding is essentially what one is prepared to morally tolerate or accept, we're talking about drawing a line in the sand, dude. Sure taking it easy with a limber mind helps with uptight thinking and makes abiding less stressful and I feel that they are all parts of the whole and abiding is the line between yin/yang, right/wrong etc, the middle way.

Walking that line is the Tao of the dude, lebowski or not.

[StAugustineDude]

A Dude doesn't emulate the ideologies of the upright and uptight squares and fascists of the world. Those hung up on time and finance. He doesn't cling to the consumerist mantras that require the latest greatest gadgets and indoctrinated upwardly mobile mindset to find happiness. He just abides, goes with the flow and in doing so is one with the fabric of the universe.  He just fits right in there.

[BikerDude]

I started reading through this thread.
Very exhausting
Fuck it.

For me abiding is back brain instead of front brain.
Less strategizing. More being.
Follow happiness. Not what we are told is happiness by society.

[digitalDude]

abiding = doing something without the Vice President of the United States involved.