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And surely DL knows what to do and where Dudeism should go, our debates are anyway useful, I guess, to help having ideas and such, and to clarify our train of thoughts and keep it limber.
perhaps the heisenberg principle applies: by trying to fix or fully undertand one aspect of dudeism, we lose all understanding of the other parts.
Just my opinion - but, Christianity has nothing to do with Dudeism, which is Zen-based, so there is a very clear distinction between the two. Watering down your Christian stance to the point of saying you just "take it easy" will insult the rest of your Baptist dudes, dude. I used to be a fundie, and knew I had to reneg on its tenets, cause - like - it's all reactionary, dogmatic, judgmental, and super right-wing. Watered-down Baptists are just that - watered down. Just like a watered-down anything - ain't worth shit to the founding fathers who sacrificed everything. Not to say they they were right - but they sacrificed everything to THINK their stance was THE ONLY stance...Religion sucks big time.Ooooh... did I type that out loud? Shoosh....
I usually say I am a minister for the Church Of The Latter Day Dude and sence I'm 7th generation baptist and a medical pot smoker for my arthertis I say I'm christian with a take it easy message. I'm almost 62 years old and am a owner and caretaker of a small apt complex after a long career of designing nuclear fuel and building power plants and have a great wife who insist I have long hair down my back and we sail on our 34 ft 3 state room catamaran named We Be Jammin . I play bluegrass music on the Dobro, Banjo Guitar, Bass. Most folks don't ask much more unless they want to be saved as a Dude. There's a lot of mormons you know The Church Of Latter Day Saints in my neighborhood so it's always fun to see the young missionaries faces when I say "take it easy is my message" it kind of takes the air out of there hard core sails pitch.I've been thinking about doing weddings on our catamaran.
DB, Rev. Ed, I think you both summarized the point. Far out or mark it 8.Hominid Dude, I'm not m5, my beard is much shorter and I don't have his deep knowledge of philosophical stuff nevertheless I'd add my two cents. Imdo obviously. Your point is not missed, only that you say Christian when you should say something else. JCD just said be cool with others, what others did in his name it's another thing. I know it's like splitting hairs but we as Dudes try to look at things from an impartial point of view without judging others based on our beliefs but on reality. And reality is that JCD seems to have been a cool Dude while most of those who said and say that they are following his words are a bunch of reactionaries and nihilists. However we can't mix the two things. And also it's offensive for someone who's a Christian because he likes the original first draft of JCD to be mixed with Inquisition and similar assholes. Also, Taoism today is much different from original Taoism just like Buddhism, there is a kind of literal connection right? The point is: Dudeism is a philosophical religion which going at the root of spirituality can be applied to everything or is Dudeism a philosophical atheist anti religious movement who is just against anything else?Taoism is a philosophy but a philosophy can be applied to a religion, Dudeism is a philosophy, The Church of the Latter Day Dude is a church. For me they are the same thing much like a Shaolin Temple is based on Buddist philosophy; but that's just my opinion.Sorry if I can't be clearer but I'm at my second evening beer.
Quote from: Andrea Da Fino on December 01, 2011, 02:25:43 PMDB, Rev. Ed, I think you both summarized the point. Far out or mark it 8.Hominid Dude, I'm not m5, my beard is much shorter and I don't have his deep knowledge of philosophical stuff nevertheless I'd add my two cents. Imdo obviously. Your point is not missed, only that you say Christian when you should say something else. JCD just said be cool with others, what others did in his name it's another thing. I know it's like splitting hairs but we as Dudes try to look at things from an impartial point of view without judging others based on our beliefs but on reality. And reality is that JCD seems to have been a cool Dude while most of those who said and say that they are following his words are a bunch of reactionaries and nihilists. However we can't mix the two things. And also it's offensive for someone who's a Christian because he likes the original first draft of JCD to be mixed with Inquisition and similar assholes. Also, Taoism today is much different from original Taoism just like Buddhism, there is a kind of literal connection right? The point is: Dudeism is a philosophical religion which going at the root of spirituality can be applied to everything or is Dudeism a philosophical atheist anti religious movement who is just against anything else?Taoism is a philosophy but a philosophy can be applied to a religion, Dudeism is a philosophy, The Church of the Latter Day Dude is a church. For me they are the same thing much like a Shaolin Temple is based on Buddist philosophy; but that's just my opinion.Sorry if I can't be clearer but I'm at my second evening beer. Andrea - Jesus did say to be cool, but he also espoused abuse and violence (John 2:12, Matthew 10:34). And, Christians follow the bible, which is chock full of rape, murder, infanticide, you name it - all ORDERED by God (see Judges 21:10-24). So if you call yourself a Christian, you are aligning yourself to the whole story, not just what you want to pick and choose. By doing that, you're creating another religion, another belief system.I'm not claiming that Dudeism should be anti-religious - I'm saying Dudeism should not include religions that teach one to be REALLY undude. It's a contradiction...
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