Moving Dudeism Forwards

[cckeiser]

More on El Duderino!
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=el%20duderino

[DigitalBuddha]

surley the introduction of "orders" can only lead to further fragmentation of an already incoherent concept that is dudeism. schisms will abound and the end will be nigh!!!

(yes i was drinking at lunchtime )

Or various orders could concentrate on expanding out various forms of Dudeism. Of course, when such "sub-organizations" are created, there is the ever present threat of inter-order rivalry and bickering. Very undude.

On a lighter note; drinking at lunch time has been shown to contribute to higher forms of dude-like slacking. This is a good thing.

[DigitalBuddha]

@Andrea Da Fino... "The Holy Order of Ladies Dressed in Viking Suits" ...fucking eh!

@cckeiser...  www.ElDuderino.org ...yeah, that's a good one.

[DigitalBuddha]

I'm probably more from the Order of the Serious Man, myself

On a serious note, I was thinking if the Tenets of Dudeism could be summarized in something called "The 10 Dudeaments" (inspired by The 10 Commandants). Problem is, in the case of the 10 Commandments, Moses dude was reported to have gotten them directly from "Yahweh" with little or no debate called for. It was a sort of "hey Moses, take these tablets with my new 10 laws thingie and go down off this a here mountain and kick those Hebrews in the ass for worshiping cow gods, they're really pissing me off!"

In the case of a bunch of debating dudes like us, it might take years to arrive at even 3 or 4, let alone 10! Of course, the process of doing so (and I think there is much value in the process) always yields plenty of good thinking which alone moves Dudeist thinking forward.

Have to admit, he does look dude-like..................



"I'm a dude, so that's what you call me"

[Andrea Da Fino]

Fu***ng A!   

[Rev. Ed C]

On a serious note, I was thinking if the Tenets of Dudeism could be summarized in something called "The 10 Dudeaments" (inspired by The 10 Commandants).

Saying "we need to come up with 10 commandments", is kind of arse-about-face, isn't it?   Surly we need to work out what's central to the ideas of Dudeism, free from extraneous extras, and then count them afterwards.  Otherwise you're just forcing in bullshit to make up the numbers

I think when it came down to the Tenets discussion http://dudeism.com/smf/index.php?topic=2622.0 sometimes it was said that certain suggestions were just copies of others.  Taking it easy and not getting uptight, for example, are essentially the same thing that could be said in an even simpler way.

I think if we're going down the route of talking about this we should return to the start of that discussion and take a look at the work we already did.  There's some valid stuff in there, we just need to sift it out and say "No matter whatelse, we can all agree Dudeism is at it's core... X, Y and Z.  Anything else is a bonus or an extraneous extra, for better or worse".

There must be a simple answer.  To be honest, we've probably been overthinking this for a while, but, hey, it's part of the fun

[DigitalBuddha]

On a serious note, I was thinking if the Tenets of Dudeism could be summarized in something called "The 10 Dudeaments" (inspired by The 10 Commandants).

Saying "we need to come up with 10 commandments", is kind of arse-about-face, isn't it?   Surly we need to work out what's central to the ideas of Dudeism, free from extraneous extras, and then count them afterwards.  Otherwise you're just forcing in bullshit to make up the numbers

This is true; let us not act as FPRs (Fucking Park Rangers) and wax rigid confined by the number "10." I think that it would only be a starting point, a beginning concept to work from. On a historic note; we have 111 (Ref. Lord of the Rings; Bilbo at the age of "eleventy one") and in recent pop culture; Spinal Tap, whose amps thew off the dusty confines of "10" and insisted that their guitar amp volumes embrace "11." The point here is "out-of-the-box" innovation (of sorts, and Zen style humor).........

These go to eleven - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EbVKWCpNFhY

[milnie]

a post on the kerabotsmas thread has given me an idea (hopefully not treading on others toes here?)

how about different garb for dudes who follow certain traits of dudeism:
wet suits for the above,
khaki and bandanas for the walterites
fractal prints for the abideists
bowling shirts and or dressing gowns for the lebowskiists
white overalls for the worshipers of the special lady (viking costume for the dudes of the female persuasion or is that too much titilation?)

god the list goes on ... any one else?

[Rev. Ed C]

a post on the kerabotsmas thread has given me an idea (hopefully not treading on others toes here?)

how about different garb for dudes who follow certain traits of dudeism:
wet suits for the above,
khaki and bandanas for the walterites
fractal prints for the abideists
bowling shirts and or dressing gowns for the lebowskiists
white overalls for the worshipers of the special lady (viking costume for the dudes of the female persuasion or is that too much titilation?)

god the list goes on ... any one else?

The issue would be, of course, that this is about moving Dudeism beyond the Lebowskiian parody, into the wider philosophy it's supposed to be that includes, but is not based on, TBL.  It's a good joke, but it's not exactly progress

Also, uniforms... erg   It's an affront to freethinking individuals, I tells ya!

[Andrea Da Fino]

Stay flexibly cool

Respect everything

Don't be a sap

Abide

[milnie]

just a typical engineer's mind trying to make order from chaos 

[milnie]

one of the problems i see is the unerring subconscious desire of humans for order, which is why ideas and religions tend to form into such rigid institutions.
to quote from Dogma: "its easy to change an idea". actually, if you try discussing transient wave physics with a physicist of the classic teachings, you may as well bang  your head against a wall.

[cckeiser]

I got two.
Take er easy
Don't be a dick.

Can't think of any others worthy of Dudeism.

[DigitalBuddha]

Another one.....

Respect your neighbor's rug. Never pee upon it.

[cckeiser]

Another one.....

Respect your neighbor's rug. Never pee upon it.

That would pretty much be the same as being a dick!
But that is just like my opinion dude!

K.I.S.S.