The Dudeism Forum

Well I think dudeism should see god symbolized in the more laid back concepts of life. Bowling, hanging out with friends, all that other shit is a way of experiencing god, amirite? and unlike the christian god or whatever, our god ain't a fucking nazi and doesn't discriminate on the basis of sexuality or whatever, dude. and you dont need no rituals to please god, all you gotta do is take life easy and not have a big ego and shit. i would write a lot more, but im confused. so can you guys elaborate on this?

Jesus was/is a Dude just look at the resemblances

And a good day to you Sir!
The symbolism is there yes, but I need to use a non-TBL analogy here:
Yogi Berra once said, and I quote, " Its not too far, it just seems that way"
So if Jesus and the dude seem the same, they can fucking un-post it.
Hasn't that ever occurred to you, sir?
Jesus=guilt you into handing over ze money
Dude=ah fuckit
Am I wrong?

I think that we as Dudeists are pretty near to Christians, and I think that the Buddy Christ is the nearest representation of the real Christ.
What I find funny instead is that Catholics, who are pretty far away from Jesus, are the ones who states that they represent his speech. They invented Inquisition, they thought Indios and Native Americans were without soul, they deep inside hate women, they were on Nazi's side, well most of them, and I'm sure that if Stalin would have left them in Russia they would have been on his side too. They are unmarried but married power and money instead of caring for people's souls. Especially the ones dressed in black, not so much usually for monks and nuns.
And JCD said that heaven's realm is inside people, not outside. He would kick them all on their nuts instead then in their butts.

Well Dudes, I just can't believe that there is some all powerful dude who is gonna cut off my fucking johnson if my toe slips over the line a bit.  The Dude didn't listen to anyone (except Maude, but he just wanted her to be his fuckin lady friend).  What I like about The Dude is that he keeps himself in check for the most part.  He has his undude moments, but he also chooses to be undude only when dealing with assholes, nihlists, and human paraquats.  I'm all for the Great Dudes in History, but I got into Dudeism to get away from superior beings and now I believe that every being is absolutely equal and the universe is our relationship to each other.  Ups and Downs, strikes and gutters, yins and yangs.  Let's not forget, let's NOT forget what symbol is at the top of the page.  If we have a God then we have to please that god.  I say fuck that, we can't be worried with that shit.  Don't do something for an imaginary friend, do something for yourself.  Abide in yourself.  Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying to be a selfish prick, but we have to think of ourselves as well as others.  I believe in balance between every being in the universe, not balance between some dude in the sky and I, not to mention if I'm on his good side or not.


I may be an asshole.....
but thats just my opinion man...

Quote from: not_exactly_a_lightweight on November 08, 2009, 11:01:57 PM
And a good day to you Sir!
The symbolism is there yes, but I need to use a non-TBL analogy here:
Yogi Berra once said, and I quote, " Its not too far, it just seems that way"
So if Jesus and the dude seem the same, they can fucking un-post it.
Hasn't that ever occurred to you, sir?
Jesus=guilt you into handing over ze money
Dude=ah fuckit
Am I wrong?

Dude i meant in the physical sence the hair beard both are happy in flipflops and loose baggy comfortable clothes not the other stuff that is the church that you go to hence i chose Dudeism because i like to chill and not be told when to go to church when to donate money and who too

And do not forget, do not forget that both of them found the feminine form comfortable. The hate of women arrived later with Catholics. 

Quote from: greatspiritmonk on November 10, 2009, 01:13:53 AM
The hate of women arrived later with Catholics.

Actually  it stems from Roman Catholicism and dates back to the pre-christian roman attitude towards women in their society.

If you look at inferences in the Coptic church the opposite is true (Nag Hammadi Index for example), but the Roman Church won the battle and destroyed most of the other forms of christianity (Greek orthodox is the Byzantine version of the Roman church). Or even the Arian church practiced by the Vandals, or other branches of Gothic christianity.

A Pagan friend of mine came up with the theory that the Romans realised they were loosing control of the empire so latched onto anything they could to keep hold, in this case christianity, and have used it to control Europe ever since.

Just because the Romans won out in the end

The Tao has no name and no personality and really doesn't care a toss because it can't. You fill the world with as many gods as you want the universe continues to abide as it did before you, with you, and as it will do after you. We are all tiny cogs in the whole massive machine.

All in my personal opinion.

I have written previously on my worry that the whole Dudeist idea may be subverted by bloody christians (crucifixion is too good for them).

(soap box away and stops blathering).

Rev Tiny and other respected and worthy reverends:
I know so little about this topic we are discussing, I must sit back and abide.
Your knowledge reminds me again that I must chill, and soak in the
wisdom. I must alter the Yogi quote, and come up with an explanation that
I can be comfortable with:

"Religion is not complicated, it just seems that way", Neal, 2009

There, that pulls it together in a slack and effortless way.

not_exactly_a_lightweight I dig your post. Very cool man.

meekon, I'm not sure it goes back to pre-christianity, actually both romans and greeks were very comfortable with the female form, and sometimes even with the male one. Do not forget that at the beginning there were a lot of Christians, people who suffered and followed the so called golden rule. And I know that the fish symbol, beside remembering the miracle was a signal for free food, which in those times was quite appealing. But I think there were a lot of good people. Then, as always happens, assholes took over power and begun doing what was done to them, killing and slaying all who didn't agree with them. Something that almost all Catholic confessions shared. Think about Mormons as an example.
The Dudeist idea cannot be subverted by Christians, while it will be surely fought by Catholics, Muslims, Jews and so on. Maybe we have some chances with Eastern religions, but I wouldn't bet on Hindus.

The difference is this one:

Christians: the golden rule plus find heaven on earth.
Catholics: suffer and be quiet and maybe one day you'll go to heaven, better if you leave us your money even if it's stained with blood, yours or of someone else.

Christians do not treat objects like women  , do not burn books or people, do not crucify, and do not protect pederasts. And would not kill someone because he disagrees with them.

Maybe I split hairs, but for me Christians and Catholics are on two different planets. If you ever find a Christians I'm sure you can talk about your worldviews easily. Without being threatened of burning in hell.

Quote from: greatspiritmonk on November 10, 2009, 11:05:21 AM
meekon, I'm not sure it goes back to pre-christianity, actually both romans and greeks were very comfortable with the female form, and sometimes even with the male one.

Actually the point I was trying to make (unsuccessfully) was to do with women and their status in roman society http://historylink102.com/Rome/roman-women.htm.

They were only allowed to own property if they were widows, and were not allowed to vote and so on.

Don't worry, sometimes I'm like a child wondering in the middle of a movie, and I don't understand even simple things. 

But I see your point. There is a reason why Northern Europe usually has a high level of life satisfaction. It has to do with the fact that they have a great number of women in politic and in the button rooms. Women are much less sensitive then men to power and money. Well, most of them.

Quote from: not_exactly_a_lightweight on November 10, 2009, 08:19:20 AM
Rev Tiny and other respected and worthy reverends:
I know so little about this topic we are discussing, I must sit back and abide.
Your knowledge reminds me again that I must chill, and soak in the
wisdom. I must alter the Yogi quote, and come up with an explanation that
I can be comfortable with:

"Religion is not complicated, it just seems that way", Neal, 2009

There, that pulls it together in a slack and effortless way.

that quote realy ties it together

yeah, well thats just like, your opinion man.

Quote from: greatspiritmonk on November 10, 2009, 11:05:21 AM

The difference is this one:

Christians: the golden rule plus find heaven on earth.
Catholics: suffer and be quiet and maybe one day you'll go to heaven, better if you leave us your money even if it's stained with blood, yours or of someone else.

Christians do not treat objects like women  , do not burn books or people, do not crucify, and do not protect pederasts. And would not kill someone because he disagrees with them.

Maybe I split hairs, but for me Christians and Catholics are on two different planets. If you ever find a Christians I'm sure you can talk about your worldviews easily. Without being threatened of burning in hell.

Dude, careful with the hate man. I know plenty of cool Catholics. Sure there are some messy pages in the history of the Catholic Church, but you could say the same of most religions. Plus, there are some pretty messed up Christians (by which I assume you're talking about Evangelicals?) out there. Ever heard of the "God Warrior"? She was on this show where families trade moms for a week to get an idea of how other people live. This Christian ended up with a kinda new age family. Here's the clip.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bOpva_iit-8&feature=related

A minority of the Christian population, I know. But it just shows that you can't make generalizations about whole groups of people man.