The Dudeism Forum

Quote from: greatspiritmonk on June 27, 2009, 02:09:16 AM

Quote from: brandt on June 26, 2009, 04:02:39 PM

Quote from: kornkob on June 25, 2009, 09:35:25 PM
I don't get the sense that Dudeism is a proselytizing religion.  We aren't mandated to recruit or convince anyone of our right minded belief systems. 

However, when asked directly we should offer the wisdom of The Dude, so long as it does not interfere with keeping one's mind limber.  

Bringing a sense of disengaged calm to any moment is probably the best use of one's ministry, whether it be at a marriage, funeral or other event.

"Disengaged calm", that's interesting, very fucking interesting......another form of just take it easy, man.....too much saying peep(proselytizing) when somebody is doing business will often get you an unqualified, "I'm sorry, I wasn't listening"

That's just like my opinion, man

I agree with you. I can't stand too people who "hassle" me with their unrequested spiritual beliefs. But, as an example, the forum has 524 members while Dudeism has more than 40.000 ordained Priests. Could this mean that we are too much concentrated on ourselves? I know we don't "preach" and we are the slowest growing religion:); I mean that if I want to be "enlightened" by myself is ok, but if I want to do something more? And if people around needs something more? I can't go for example to someone sick and start talking like a movie character: this could upset him or feel that I'm joking with his sickness.
If I think that Dudeism is a good answer to a lot of world's problem, and I do, shouldn't I do something more? So maybe people around get happier? Or can have a professional service from me, and my world view too? I agree that example is the first thing to do but I would like to be also professional as a Priest. As I said for me is something more than a piece of paper on a wall. And as someone else said on the forum you can be a dudeist even if you have a successful business running.

So if a Dudeist is an example of a life taken easy, what is a Dudeist Priest? If the world would be a better place if full of Dudeists what does the Priests have to do to go toward this goal?

Thanks to everyone for all the insights.

Lotta ins, lotta outs, lotta what have yous. Sometimes the strands in the old duders head need to free fall. The feeling that once something(dudeism) gets too organized in dogma, the whole enchalada goes south....imagination, ideas ,get questioned and dissected. Becomes too "in there" as opposed to" out there." Whatever the fuck I'm trying to say. Too many commercial-type rules and shit could creep and destroy three thousand years of......Like Groucho said, "any club that would have me as a member, I give a wide berth,"or words to that effect. Now there was a Dude for his time and beyond.
But I dig your thoughtful introspection.
But as usual, that's just like my opinion, man.

Quote from: brandt on June 27, 2009, 06:54:26 AM
As I said for me is something more than a piece of paper on a wall. And as someone else said on the forum you can be a dudeist even if you have a successful business running.
So if a Dudeist is an example of a life taken easy, what is a Dudeist Priest? If the world would be a better place if full of Dudeists what does the Priests have to do to go toward this goal?
Thanks to everyone for all the insights.

I totally get where you're coming from, and to a certain degree feel the same way. I want to effect real change in the world with my dudeism and live up to my ordination. Are you thinking along the lines of an actual ministry or a missionary effort? For example, a "real" ministry could just be a makeshift church. In the poorer areas of Long Beach there are all kinds of store front churches providing comfort to the down on their luck. A place where others can come to vent and share spiritual stuff from different sources would be awesome. I was thinking of maybe one day combining this approach with a free food for the needy type thing and a (CA-legal) medical marijuana dispensary. As for the missionary approach, well you're on your own there dude.

Well, at least we are two:)
You know, in Italy not much people has seen the movie and I guess there are at most 500 people who know that exists the word "Dude" and I don't know how many know about Dudeism. I am too learning about it and since, it's my opinion, the difference between a Dudeist and a Dudeist Priest is that the Priest has the goal of spreading Dudeism, in one way or another, plus providing professional services to "followers", I'm trying to figure out first what Dudeism is as a religion (beside taking life easy) and secondly how to spread it here. With the added bonus that being Italy the Catholic country here it isn't an easy task and I should make no errors. First for me and then for Dudeism. I believe that the "taking life easy" philosophy should be spread as much as possible, for the benefits of all. For me it isn't a religion but could be the religion:)

So, these could be the main features of a Dudeist Priest:


He is an example of what he "preaches"(mainly being one thing with the universe);
takes life easy trying to do the right thing, at the right time, in the right way (Wu Wei);
when asked explains Dudeism's point of view and gives advices on living an easy/simple life;
when asked provides professional religious services;

Any other suggestion?

Quote from: greatspiritmonk on June 30, 2009, 02:13:56 AM
Any other suggestion?

Yeah man, Italy is a strongly Catholic country, may I suggest showing others the Dudeist aspects of Jesus' message? The books of James and Jude were written by his brothers and offer insight into the pre-Orthodox faith, one of good conduct, good deeds, and good intentions. Also- Rome and Milan have large Jewish minorities, perhaps sharing the Dudeist message of King Solomon's writings with them can help, the preverbs, song of songs, and ecclesiastes are all very dude worthy. Finally, among Italy's many Muslims immigrants, remind them of Suras 91, 95, 102, 103, 107, 109, and 112- all of which take a "to each his own" stance with regards to faith. Sura 107 explicity defines an unbeliever as one who is thoughtless of the needy, self righteous, and uncharitable to their neighbors. All faiths are compatible with Dudeism because Dudeism is a way of thinking and acting that enhances who you are- it never replaces who you are. Take care dude.

Sufidude, you are not only wiser, but also more "knowledgeable" (?) than me.
Really thank you for your advices, I'll check them and learn them. And this sentence is great : "All faiths are compatible with Dudeism because Dudeism is a way of thinking and acting that enhances who you are- it never replaces who you are."
You are really helping me a lot. Hope you will go on with this
Thank you very much dude!

Glad to help, see ya on down the trail there dude.

Sufidude, you should send this sentence to be included in the Tao of Dude: "All faiths are compatible with Dudeism because Dudeism is a way of thinking and acting that enhances who you are- it never replaces who you are."
The more I think about it the more I like it. Simple, clear, complete.

To summarize Dudeism point of view do you think this is right?
"Between consenting adult everything is fine." As a general rule of thumb for tolerance.

Quote from: greatspiritmonk on July 03, 2009, 03:16:04 AM
Sufidude, you should send this sentence to be included in the Tao of Dude

Why don't you send it in? If you like that much- then its yours. I'm like Lao Tzu: I don't care who gets credit for my ideas, as long as they help others.

Then I'll exchange yours for this one: A Dudeist is a surfer on the sea of life. 

It's a deal!

I am the walrus.

I am the walrus.

I am the walrus.

Shut the Fuck UP WeAreSame, V.I. Lenin- Vladimir Ilyich Uliyinov!!!

Sufidude, since you are a wiser fella than myself I've prepared a little summary from the site on Dudeism. Do you think it misses something?

Dudeism: Taoism for the modern day spiritualist or The way to simplicity

Tenets (Statement of Beliefs):

Take life easy(, and avoid being too uptight).
Abide.
Tend to your own little garden.
Respect for Nature as a whole (human beings, animals, plants...).

Further concepts:

All faiths are compatible with Dudeism because Dudeism is a way of thinking and acting that enhances who you are- it never replaces who you are.
A Dudeist is a surfer on the sea of life.
As regards the others a Dudeist accepts that between consenting adults everything is fine. That is to say "Happy you, happy everyone."
A Dudeist abides, but never flexes more than 100?, he defends the line he draws with his life.
A Dudeist tends his little garden, doesn't walk in others' gardens and if asked gives advices on gardening.
A Dudeist applies Wu Wei (shrewd acting) on everything; doing the right thing in the right moment in the right way.
Whatever happens a Dudeist is always in the eye of the storm.
If you piss on a Dudeist's rug then you'll find yourself in a world of pain, or directly inside the storm.

Would you add something else?

Thanks.

Quote from: greatspiritmonk on July 06, 2009, 02:32:37 AM
Would you add something else?
Thanks.

It all looks good from here, but i would add a sense of love to the equation: to love what you do, when you're doing it, for the sake of doing it. Without a true love of whatever you're practice is, bowling or smoking a J, it all becomes escapism. It reminds me of Jim Morrison from the Doors. When it all began, he drank for the love of it and the people he did it with. But towards the end, he drank because that's what drunks do. Take care dude, and stay in love with you're garden.