Rev. Iconoclesiastes' verse from a sacred text (but not the Bible) of the week..

[Shagbeard]

Well anytime you bring up religion there will usually be a debate. That's kind of what the forum is about. To discuss things I think everyone is doing that. You can't get bent out of shape when somone questions you about what your posting.

Whoa, shit yeah, dude Sleevez I dig your words.
Just wish it would not be laced with disdain.

No disdain here I am try to discuss this delicately I'm not really understanding this. I get the first half about the scripture thing I missed a response and apologized. Moved onto digitalBuddhas comment and icons reaction to it.

Right, you are just talking... see my last post... I said the disdain part was not about you.

Yeah Rev Icon got some info on that he was sharing on groupthink... I for one do not even like the idea of it, as it sounds like mind control to me.

[The_Sleevez]

Ok so mob mentality I dig it. How does that connect to degrees for dudeiest philosophical contributions?.

To me,the idea of earning a "Degree in Dudeism" is an oxymoron. 

Next, I'll repeat myself.  If you do not like what I have to write, then don't read my writiings.

If you choose to read what I contribute anyway, and do not like what I wrote, then follow this old wisdom: if you do not have anything nice to say, then  do not say anything at all (or write it, as the case may be).

And last: not to boast, but I do hold a degree in Social Psychology.  What's more, I graduated summa cum laude.  I am not bragging; it's just true.  I wrote my undergraduate Capstone Project (kind of like a "thesis lite") on modes of institutional groupthink.  So the topic of groupthink is a topic that I reckon that I know a thing or two about. 

Please read up on the experiments carried out by Milgram (about obedience to perceived authority), Asch (about conformity to  group expectations), and Zimbardo (about the power of situational roles), as well as the studies designed by Tajfel and Turner (on "ingroup favoritism and the illusion of outgroup homogeneity") in order to learn more, and in order to glean more insight into the power of group dynamics.

And I am going to repeat myself if you post in a forum be prepared to deal with questions and differing opinions. I am trying to discuss this I am being polite and trying not to be offensive just to understand. Your point because it doesn't make any sense to me. Have I been rude or aggressive in anyway to you? not that I am aware of. I just ask for clarification and your telling me that if I don't agree with you go away that's not how public forums work.

[The_Sleevez]

And to add you jumped on digitalbudda hard for his comment which I think was uncalled for. I have never seen anything negative come from him to anyone.

[Shagbeard]

Sleevez, just cary on and ask him and talk about it. Surely Icon is not going to leave you hanging in the dark. Right Icon 

[The_Sleevez]

Well anytime you bring up religion there will usually be a debate. That's kind of what the forum is about. To discuss things I think everyone is doing that. You can't get bent out of shape when somone questions you about what your posting.

Whoa, shit yeah, dude Sleevez I dig your words.
Just wish it would not be laced with disdain.

No disdain here I am try to discuss this delicately I'm not really understanding this. I get the first half about the scripture thing I missed a response and apologized. Moved onto digitalBuddhas comment and icons reaction to it.

Right, you are just talking... see my last post... I said the disdain part was not about you.

Yeah Rev Icon got some info on that he was sharing on groupthink... I for one do not even like the idea of it, as it sounds like mind control to me.

I did see that after I posted lol thank you

[Shagbeard]

Rev Icon, make sure you focus, put some dudely zen on and make sure we are not coming off with bad tone and disdain. Wanting healthy discussion, sure but make sure to check self. Peace

[The_Sleevez]

Fuck it time for an oat soda moving on mark it zero

[Rev. Iconocclesiastes]

In a cult, abusive organization, or dysfunctional relationship, it does not matter if the information presented is true. For if it is negative about the group or any member of the group, then you cannot say it. Usually such negative information will be will be labeled as "flaming" or "slander", and if one persists in speaking it or writing it one can be disciplined severely, ultimately with expulsion from the group, or, if one is an outsider speaking ill about or being at all critical of the group, one can be demonized, poked fun at, humiliated, booted from an online forum, or what have you.  This is why I do not want Dudeism to turn into an actual cult.  It'd turn into just another "ingroup/outgroup" or "us vs. them"  situation.  That's all I have to say about that, Sleevez.  Goodnight.

[DigitalBuddha]

In a cult, abusive organization, or dysfunctional relationship, it does not matter if the information presented is true. For if it is negative about the group or any member of the group, then you cannot say it. Usually such negative information will be will be labeled as "flaming" or "slander", and if one persists in speaking it or writing it one can be disciplined severely, ultimately with expulsion from the group, or, if one is an outsider speaking ill about or being at all critical of the group, one can be demonized, poked fun at, humiliated, booted from an online forum, or what have you.  This is why I do not want Dudeism to turn into an actual cult.  It'd turn into just another "ingroup/outgroup" or "us vs. them"  situation.  That's all I have to say about that, Sleevez.  Goodnight.

Yeah?  What do you think happens when you get divorced?  You turn in your library card?  Get a new driver's license?  Stop being Jewish?

[Caesar dude]

Cults cults cults....it's all about cults....

Give it a rest man.

[DigitalBuddha]

Cults cults cults....it's all about cults....

Give it a rest man.

Yeah, better to roll a few and let life go on, man.

[The_Sleevez]

Lol I would like to say let's just agree to disagree. But I'm not sure if I agree or disagree because I'm still not sure what your getting at. But this has been beaten to death and is going nowhere so I'll agree to end it lol have a gooder.

[meekon5]

Please dig this, if you'd care to.  It's an article entitled Dudeism for Christians.  Thanks for turning me on to it, Shagbeard.
 
http://shagbeard.wordpress.com/2014/02/02/208/

And how does this re-enforce your point?

It's an article in which Shagbeard places christianity in a dudeist context, nice article shagbeard, nothing to do with random quotes from religious text that don't make sense.

[MindAbiding]

Hey Dudes,

Here's a song that we seem to be singing a lot these days. Just wanted to put it out there for all to see. Do something different if you want, stick to the same song if you want. Perhaps we could establish a second forum for Dudes who want to sing along in this particular song. Rev I, I'm not meaning to single you out, Dude, it's just that you seem to have many of the solos in this here tune.

Verse one: The "Rev. I" posts something that inflames some members of the beach community
Verse  two: Somebody reacts to this, asking what his point is, or perhaps something more direct
Verse  three: Some back and forth about whether said post is relevant to Dudeism
Verse  four: The Rev. I gets amped up, starts telling people they don't need to read it if they don't like it, that it's all just opinions, man
Verse  five: More back and forth, usually involving some kind of deep concern from another member of the forum, possibly expressing ideas of leaving
Verse  six: The Rev. I starts warning about cults and cliques, about groupthink and his expertise in such matters (usually there's some insistence at this point that the Rev be referred to as "Swami")
Verse  seven: A moderator publicly states that "something is being done," perhaps establishes some boundaries for Rev. I to follow, perhaps invokes Forum Dude to speak up.
Verse  eight: Rev. I relents, extends hugs, asks everyone to accept him, perhaps there's some public make-up
Verse nine: A lull of about 1-2 weeks where Rev. I's posts are more palatable to the beach community

Then, back to Verse 1.

It's all part of the durned human comedy, Dudes. Perpetuating itself over the weeks, forum thread to forum thread.

Peace.

[Rev. Iconocclesiastes]

Here's an idea: the next time that one of you atheists/anti-theists sees my weekly Sunday-morning posting of "Rev. Iconoclesiastes' verse from a sacred text (other than the Bible) of the week", simply do not read it.  All potential conflict can thereby be proactively prevented.  And if you choose to read it anyway, and still not not like it, then remember mama's sage advice: if you have nothing nice to say, then do not say anything at all.  Why all the drama?  Sheeeez.