Maldives teen faces 100 lashes for fornication

[BikerDude]

15 year old girl has sex with stepfather gets 100 lashes.
Oh and don't think that's any small thing.
Remember the movie "Unforgiven". People have been known to die from it.

http://www.cnn.com/2013/02/27/world/asia/maldives-teen-100-lashes/index.html?hpt=hp_bn2

"If she had said no, then the only case that would have gone forward would have been the charge of sexually abusing a minor against the stepfather."

Authorities began their investigation after a dead baby was discovered, and investigators questioned the girl, who later confessed to consensual premarital sex, Faiz said. Amnesty International's sources close to the island where the sexual abuse had taken place provided this account, Faiz said.

[DigitalBuddha]

15 year old girl has sex with stepfather gets 100 lashes.
Oh and don't think that's any small thing.
Remember the movie "Unforgiven". People have been known to die from it.

http://www.cnn.com/2013/02/27/world/asia/maldives-teen-100-lashes/index.html?hpt=hp_bn2

"If she had said no, then the only case that would have gone forward would have been the charge of sexually abusing a minor against the stepfather."

Authorities began their investigation after a dead baby was discovered, and investigators questioned the girl, who later confessed to consensual premarital sex, Faiz said. Amnesty International's sources close to the island where the sexual abuse had taken place provided this account, Faiz said.

Fucking barbarians!

[Boston Rockbury]

Once we start acting according to 'the book of law' rather than looking into our own hearts, all sorts of bad shit can happen

[BikerDude]

Once we start acting according to 'the book of law' rather than looking into our own hearts, all sorts of bad shit can happen

That is why it pisses me off to no end when theist insist that there is a "higher source" for morality and ascribe that to their God.
It is clear that the utility of that position is precisely to classify immorality as moral.
If something is moral simply because some God (or of course more precisely some person claiming to speak for God) says it is, then anything is. This is exactly how you get people to strap explosives to themselves and blow up innocent people.
If morality is more akin to humanism then it has to make some sense on some level at least.
For me there is a clear delineation between those 2 positions.
Humanism 'vs' theism.
And In fact I absolutely believe that in reality theism is not even a belief in God.
It's a desire for others to believe in God as a means to an end. At least in the way that it came about.
To me scripture has ample evidence that the people writing it didn't believe a fucking thing they were saying.
They just needed some way to keep all the rapers and assfuckers and pederasses in line.
And keep all the regular people content with their single bowl of gruel and a warm place to shit.
So they told them ghost stories and every kind of bullshit.
Santa for pederasses and grandmas.

[DigitalBuddha]

Don't you just love it; Catholic priests rape little boys (and the church covers it up) and islam gives 100 lashes to a girl who has been sexually abused. I often wonder when the world will rid itself of both of these sick institutions.

[Boston Rockbury]

Don't you just love it; Catholic priests rape little boys (and the church covers it up) and islam gives 100 lashes to a girl who has been sexually abused. I often wonder when the world will rid itself of both of these sick institutions.

I think some muslims are pretty groovy. i used to know a really funky sufi chick in London called Irina Tweedie who put out some great vibrations.

[DigitalBuddha]

Don't you just love it; Catholic priests rape little boys (and the church covers it up) and islam gives 100 lashes to a girl who has been sexually abused. I often wonder when the world will rid itself of both of these sick institutions.

I think some muslims are pretty groovy. i used to know a really funky sufi chick in London called Irina Tweedie who put out some great vibrations.

Yes, but I'm talking about the institutions; they're both disgusting parasites, a cancer on humanity, and useless maggots! No different than the low life gang of TV evangelists in America.

[Boston Rockbury]

Don't you just love it; Catholic priests rape little boys (and the church covers it up) and islam gives 100 lashes to a girl who has been sexually abused. I often wonder when the world will rid itself of both of these sick institutions.

I think some muslims are pretty groovy. i used to know a really funky sufi chick in London called Irina Tweedie who put out some great vibrations.

Yes, but I'm talking about the institutions; they're both disgusting parasites, a cancer on humanity, and useless maggots! No different than the low life gang of TV evangelists in America.

Maybe we just need less institutions of all sorts, especially those with oppressive power structures, whether that's organised religions, state institutions or whatever. When you really look into something that seems pretty positive like a centralised education syllabus it can easily become a mechanism for spreading control and inhibition. Or institutions like the MCA in the UK or the FDA in the US. They are supposed to be there to protect the public but they often protect the interests of big business to the detriment of the public. And that's not just hearsay. I used to run a herbal medicine business - I've dealt with these guys.

[BikerDude]

Don't you just love it; Catholic priests rape little boys (and the church covers it up) and islam gives 100 lashes to a girl who has been sexually abused. I often wonder when the world will rid itself of both of these sick institutions.

I think some muslims are pretty groovy. i used to know a really funky sufi chick in London called Irina Tweedie who put out some great vibrations.

I know lots of "Muslims" who are great.
I know lots of "Christians" who are also.
They are great because neither follows their own faith.
The "nice" part and the religious part are at odds.
Most people resolve it by just not talking about it or for that matter needing to act on it or think about it.
But I know Christians who are nice as can be, that when truly opening up will suggest that they do believe that Jesus is returning and that he will judge non Christians harshly.  I mean they are required to believe that or they simply are not in accord with any of the major Christian faiths. Some have admitted to me in discussion that they truly cannot trust anyone who isn't Christian. In the US a person simply cannot attain high office without professions of faith. In fact there are a lot of places that specifically make it ILLEGAL for atheists to hold office. It is written into law.
People walk around all day smiling and interacting but even these comfortable, well to do, Christians, at their heart gladly embrace this sort of divisiveness.
The damage is subtle and happens over time.
Look at Christian societies. The problems they suffer are just as if the Christian doctrine, as it is literally written had left it's impression on society, clearly as a fingerprint. Misogyny, Racism,  homophobia, a history of slavery and imperialism. Centuries of history of slavery and abuse of Non Christians. The damage is still there. Even today we are dealing with it. All those things are echo'ed literally in the bible.
Words and Ideas make a difference. They have outcomes.
It was  faith that made people perfectly comfortable with coming to the new world and "converting" or killing the aboriginal people. In fact all around the world. In the clearly stated world view of Christianity non Christians are simply less. That can be seen clearly through history.
It is secular society that has put restraints on people that have spared us from more of the same IMO.
That's why today's Christians seem so nice.
I guarantee that the people below were called nice. It looks like a wonderful picnic and it was Christian doctrine that allowed these people to believe that they were doing something good. 100% that they were all in Church that Sunday.




Christian racism is very much alive and well today.
http://human-nature.com/nibbs/01/ogilvie.html

[BikerDude]

Don't you just love it; Catholic priests rape little boys (and the church covers it up) and islam gives 100 lashes to a girl who has been sexually abused. I often wonder when the world will rid itself of both of these sick institutions.

I think some muslims are pretty groovy. i used to know a really funky sufi chick in London called Irina Tweedie who put out some great vibrations.

Yes, but I'm talking about the institutions; they're both disgusting parasites, a cancer on humanity, and useless maggots! No different than the low life gang of TV evangelists in America.

Maybe we just need less institutions of all sorts, especially those with oppressive power structures, whether that's organised religions, state institutions or whatever. When you really look into something that seems pretty positive like a centralised education syllabus it can easily become a mechanism for spreading control and inhibition. Or institutions like the MCA in the UK or the FDA in the US. They are supposed to be there to protect the public but they often protect the interests of big business to the detriment of the public. And that's not just hearsay. I used to run a herbal medicine business - I've dealt with these guys.

Don't you just love it; Catholic priests rape little boys (and the church covers it up) and islam gives 100 lashes to a girl who has been sexually abused. I often wonder when the world will rid itself of both of these sick institutions.

I think some muslims are pretty groovy. i used to know a really funky sufi chick in London called Irina Tweedie who put out some great vibrations.

Yes, but I'm talking about the institutions; they're both disgusting parasites, a cancer on humanity, and useless maggots! No different than the low life gang of TV evangelists in America.

Maybe we just need less institutions of all sorts, especially those with oppressive power structures, whether that's organised religions, state institutions or whatever. When you really look into something that seems pretty positive like a centralised education syllabus it can easily become a mechanism for spreading control and inhibition. Or institutions like the MCA in the UK or the FDA in the US. They are supposed to be there to protect the public but they often protect the interests of big business to the detriment of the public. And that's not just hearsay. I used to run a herbal medicine business - I've dealt with these guys.

If the FDA is corrupt it doesn't make the idea or purpose of the FDA wrong.
There are corrupt cops. Nobody suggest getting rid of cops or accepting it.
The idea is to do the best to fix the situation.
Here I don't want the FDA eliminated or regulation of drug companies lessened.
I want them to actually do their job.

[Boston Rockbury]

If the FDA is corrupt it doesn't make the idea or purpose of the FDA wrong.
There are corrupt cops. Nobody suggest getting rid of cops or accepting it.
The idea is to do the best to fix the situation.
Here I don't want the FDA eliminated or regulation of drug companies lessened.
I want them to actually do their job.

The FDA and the drug companies together are part of an inter-connected network of public disservice that feeds on fear and ingorance and produces huge amounts of money and control. The vast majority of all 'drugs' that we need are growing in the fields. They are free, effective and generally very safe. But they don't produce much money. The FDA cannot do a proper job because the whole system is fucked. I can treat 95% of medical conditions very effectively with herbs that grow within 2 km of my house. But even my own professional practitioner association sold out because they bought a lie that the government was going to legislate against them. I know this as an absolute fact. I drafted the reports detailing the lies that I heard first hand. I used to be a member of the governing council of the National Institute of Medical Herbalists. I was chairman of the committee investigating statutory regulation. That's why I left my own country to live in France. I couldn't stand to be part of something that had shot itself in the bollocks.

[BikerDude]

If the FDA is corrupt it doesn't make the idea or purpose of the FDA wrong.
There are corrupt cops. Nobody suggest getting rid of cops or accepting it.
The idea is to do the best to fix the situation.
Here I don't want the FDA eliminated or regulation of drug companies lessened.
I want them to actually do their job.

The FDA and the drug companies together are part of an inter-connected network of public disservice that feeds on fear and ingorance and produces huge amounts of money and control. The vast majority of all 'drugs' that we need are growing in the fields. They are free, effective and generally very safe. But they don't produce much money. The FDA cannot do a proper job because the whole system is fucked. I can treat 95% of medical conditions very effectively with herbs that grow within 2 km of my house. But even my own professional practitioner association sold out because they bought a lie that the government was going to legislate against them. I know this as an absolute fact. I drafted the reports detailing the lies that I heard first hand. I used to be a member of the governing council of the National Institute of Medical Herbalists. I was chairman of the committee investigating statutory regulation. That's why I left my own country to live in France. I couldn't stand to be part of something that had shot itself in the bollocks.

The FDA mission statement.

What We Do

FDA is responsible for protecting the public health by assuring the safety, efficacy and security of human and veterinary drugs, biological products, medical devices, our nation?s food supply, cosmetics, and products that emit radiation.

FDA is also responsible for advancing the public health by helping to speed innovations that make medicines more effective, safer, and more affordable and by helping the public get the accurate, science-based information they need to use medicines and foods to maintain and improve their health. FDA also has responsibility for regulating the manufacturing, marketing and distribution of tobacco products to protect the public health and to reduce tobacco use by minors.

Finally, FDA plays a significant role in the Nation?s counterterrorism capability. FDA fulfills this responsibility by ensuring the security of the food supply and by fostering development of medical products to respond to deliberate and naturally emerging public health threats.

I like all of that.
Yes they have been hijacked by monied interests just like most of Government.
That's not good.
I do hope that it changes. Because the reality is that we need the FDA to be what it is supposed to be.
The fact that the LAPD doesn't live up to it's mission statement doesn't make people say that there should be no police.
(Well sane people anyway)
They want the police force improved not just done away with.

   
The Mission Statement of the LAPD


It is the mission of the Los Angeles Police Department to safeguard the lives and property of the people we serve, to reduce the incidence and fear of crime, and to enhance public safety while working with the diverse communities to improve their quality of life. Our mandate is to do so with honor and integrity, while at all times conducting ourselves with the highest ethical standards to maintain public confidence.

[RighteousDude]

I do hope that it changes. Because the reality is that we need the FDA to be what it is supposed to be.

If the US government were what it tells us it is, life in the US and in every other place on Earth where it sticks its nose would be a fine fuck of a lot better. But it is not any of those things it holds itself out to be, and never in its history has been. I think it's high time for another constitutional convention, and this time around we need a constitution that incorporates human rights. As it is, the only truth we can hold self evident is that the motherfuckers have been lying since 1776.

[Boston Rockbury]

I do hope that it changes. Because the reality is that we need the FDA to be what it is supposed to be.

If the US government were what it tells us it is, life in the US and in every other place on Earth where it sticks its nose would be a fine fuck of a lot better. But it is not any of those things it holds itself out to be, and never in its history has been. I think it's high time for another constitutional convention, and this time around we need a constitution that incorporates human rights. As it is, the only truth we can hold self evident is that the motherfuckers have been lying since 1776.

I think that's a real groovy point.
There are certain thngs i can do as a citizen or just as an authentic person that can be a positive response to the misuse of power and poor governance.

Because the law on herbal medicine is corrupt, I choose to ignore it. I can still pick plants from the wild and help people.

I can point out where the law is wrong - which I have done.

I can align myself with organisations that have a more open, freer resonance - such as the American Herbalists Guild who have taken over fom the Europeans as the beacon of grooviness.

So it's a matter of perspective - nothing is fucked here - and of course I'm also using herbal medicine as a metaphor for other shit.

[RighteousDude]

Because the law on herbal medicine is corrupt, I choose to ignore it. I can still pick plants from the wild and help people.

That's my approach, too. I might worry more about it if it were my livelihood, but I make my money doing other things and practice herbal medicine just because I care. And because I've been a plant listener for as long as I can remember.

I can align myself with organisations that have a more open, freer resonance - such as the American Herbalists Guild who have taken over fom the Europeans as the beacon of grooviness.

I'm not much of a joiner, myself. But I am on Henriette's mailing list.