uggabugga uggabugga
* * *
Return to Dudeism.com |  recentposts2

Author Topic: Chill  (Read 3406 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Adam

  • Amateurs
  • *
  • Posts: 1
    • Adam Hinds
Chill
« on: October 17, 2018, 05:04:12 PM »
Like, you know. Why are you always angry? Why do you throw a fit when things don't go your way? Why is everything an issue for you? Why do you make mountains out of molehills? Why do you second-guess everyone else's decisions, even when they have no effect on you? Why can't you shut the fuck up on and focus on the mission? Chill out, dude.

BikerDude

  • Dude
  • ******
  • Posts: 3544
  • Time wounds all heels -John Lennon
Re: Chill
« Reply #1 on: October 18, 2018, 11:12:28 AM »

Out here we are all his children

EsmagaSapos

  • Dude
  • ***
  • Posts: 44
Re: Chill
« Reply #2 on: October 19, 2018, 11:32:22 AM »
Humm, because since the foundations of society one man wants to be greater, more powerful then the other.

His ego tempt him with something he already possesses, immortality. That's why the Egyptians made the pyramids, that's why we make statues.

I don't believe in the intellect, I mean I believe that we have it, and is very useful at some extent, progress or whatever, what I don't believe is the intellect will ever give anyone trued. Intellect is the tool to formulate perspectives, and they are perspectives.

Trued is reality and we don't have a name for it, everything we know was taught to us, is a symbol, a name, a concept, a idea. There are 7.8 billion people in the world, all with different ideas, how can you fell any sense of superiority? How what you know, what you believe is any superior to what the other 7.8 billion do? We constantly try to convince people we are superior subconsciously, I think I'm doing it right now, so why should I need to write this text?

BikerDude

  • Dude
  • ******
  • Posts: 3544
  • Time wounds all heels -John Lennon
Re: Chill
« Reply #3 on: October 22, 2018, 08:24:12 AM »
Humm, because since the foundations of society one man wants to be greater, more powerful then the other.

His ego tempt him with something he already possesses, immortality. That's why the Egyptians made the pyramids, that's why we make statues.

I don't believe in the intellect, I mean I believe that we have it, and is very useful at some extent, progress or whatever, what I don't believe is the intellect will ever give anyone trued. Intellect is the tool to formulate perspectives, and they are perspectives.

Trued is reality and we don't have a name for it, everything we know was taught to us, is a symbol, a name, a concept, a idea. There are 7.8 billion people in the world, all with different ideas, how can you fell any sense of superiority? How what you know, what you believe is any superior to what the other 7.8 billion do? We constantly try to convince people we are superior subconsciously, I think I'm doing it right now, so why should I need to write this text?

It's about some sense of proportionality.
Not every person who is striving for success is a megalomaniac bent on building pyramids in there honor.
The vast majority of people simply want to earn a living, raise a family and achieve something that makes them and their family proud.
Casting these sort of basic principle in the most extreme light conceivable borders on mental illness.
"Cognitive therapy" is generally used to help people avoid thought patterns that tend to amplify negative interpretations.
You should probably have a go at that IMO.

Out here we are all his children

Kanantus

  • Dude
  • ***
  • Posts: 59
Re: Chill
« Reply #4 on: October 23, 2018, 12:13:58 PM »
Uhm, did I miss something here? Some context would be nice. I mean... I don't make montains or molehills so what the fuch are you talking about? 8)

EsmagaSapos

  • Dude
  • ***
  • Posts: 44
Re: Chill
« Reply #5 on: October 24, 2018, 10:10:05 AM »
It's about some sense of proportionality.
Not every person who is striving for success is a megalomaniac bent on building pyramids in there honor.
The vast majority of people simply want to earn a living, raise a family and achieve something that makes them and their family proud.
Casting these sort of basic principle in the most extreme light conceivable borders on mental illness.
"Cognitive therapy" is generally used to help people avoid thought patterns that tend to amplify negative interpretations.
You should probably have a go at that IMO.

Proportionality?
We give the crown to who ever we want to, but I don't believe that anyone born to wear it.
I don't think I'm being extreme, I think being extreme is holding to a concept, that I believe is what you are doing.
I don't consider my perspective negative, I consider it very positive, very open minded, because I'm open to questioning, I don't believe you are, I think you are afraid of it.

BikerDude

  • Dude
  • ******
  • Posts: 3544
  • Time wounds all heels -John Lennon
Re: Chill
« Reply #6 on: October 24, 2018, 01:24:52 PM »
It's about some sense of proportionality.
Not every person who is striving for success is a megalomaniac bent on building pyramids in there honor.
The vast majority of people simply want to earn a living, raise a family and achieve something that makes them and their family proud.
Casting these sort of basic principle in the most extreme light conceivable borders on mental illness.
"Cognitive therapy" is generally used to help people avoid thought patterns that tend to amplify negative interpretations.
You should probably have a go at that IMO.

Proportionality?
We give the crown to who ever we want to, but I don't believe that anyone born to wear it.
I don't think I'm being extreme, I think being extreme is holding to a concept, that I believe is what you are doing.
I don't consider my perspective negative, I consider it very positive, very open minded, because I'm open to questioning, I don't believe you are, I think you are afraid of it.

Yes proportionality.
You are talking about giving the crown to someone?
And building pyramids?
Why do you inflate every topic to be about megalamania and overblown nonsense about pyramids and other nonsense.
You suggest that normal everyday things like "intellect" are over rated and elsewhere also things mike money and work are just myths.
So basically you suggest that the entire world is misled and mistaken about basic precepts.
That the foundations of society are below your superior intellect.
That all of those other millions of people are just cursed with an ego that blinds them to all of the really great ideas that you are privy to. And that all of them would be so much better if they just (I don't know what?) stood around listening to nothing and feeling their oneness with the universe or some nonsense?
I can not imagine any more conceited or egotistical position possible.



Out here we are all his children

BikerDude

  • Dude
  • ******
  • Posts: 3544
  • Time wounds all heels -John Lennon
Re: Chill
« Reply #7 on: October 24, 2018, 01:27:12 PM »
Uhm, did I miss something here? Some context would be nice. I mean... I don't make montains or molehills so what the fuch are you talking about? 8)

I think it's meant as a general comment on "people" with a capital "P".
The "royal we, the editorial", as the dude would say.

Out here we are all his children

EsmagaSapos

  • Dude
  • ***
  • Posts: 44
Re: Chill
« Reply #8 on: October 25, 2018, 08:55:07 AM »
I don't consider that I'm intellectually superior, my basic point is that nothing is superior or inferior, they are both parts of the same thing, without one side you can't have the other. I don't want question religion, I don't want to question science, I'm just pointing to people that don't want to question there ideas why they should, because everything they think they know was given to them, is not actually real, is a illusion, is a myth in a way, because was made by us, is either a symbol, a name, a concept, a perspective, reality is something you can't name, and we name everything. I'm not against going to work, raise a family, buying a car, house, whatever in fact is actually what I'm doing and I could point the flaws in all that, say we stopped belonging beneficially to this planet when we started thinking in terms of projecting future but I know that was something that would eventually happen, that's why there was 20something species of Homo sapiens and we were to only ones who survived, others more strong didn't, we had the ability to create language, is the foundation of our society, we could now create myths, like money, and concepts that wouldn't be argued, well I argue. I'm not seeking any trued, I'm not seeking anything actually, I'm a total normal person, that have all the considered flaws and I'm okay with it, what I will never do is consider something as a trued and not a perspective. Some of the biggest findings were made by people who questioned things that no one would question, Galileu Galilei for instance.


BikerDude

  • Dude
  • ******
  • Posts: 3544
  • Time wounds all heels -John Lennon
Re: Chill
« Reply #9 on: October 25, 2018, 09:15:02 AM »
I don't consider that I'm intellectually superior, my basic point is that nothing is superior or inferior, they are both parts of the same thing, without one side you can't have the other. I don't want question religion, I don't want to question science, I'm just pointing to people that don't want to question there ideas why they should, because everything they think they know was given to them, is not actually real, is a illusion, is a myth in a way, because was made by us, is either a symbol, a name, a concept, a perspective, reality is something you can't name, and we name everything. I'm not against going to work, raise a family, buying a car, house, whatever in fact is actually what I'm doing and I could point the flaws in all that, say we stopped belonging beneficially to this planet when we started thinking in terms of projecting future but I know that was something that would eventually happen, that's why there was 20something species of Homo sapiens and we were to only ones who survived, others more strong didn't, we had the ability to create language, is the foundation of our society, we could now create myths, like money, and concepts that wouldn't be argued, well I argue. I'm not seeking any trued, I'm not seeking anything actually, I'm a total normal person, that have all the considered flaws and I'm okay with it, what I will never do is consider something as a trued and not a perspective. Some of the biggest findings were made by people who questioned things that no one would question, Galileu Galilei for instance.



We didn't "create" language.
Any more than birds created chirping.
It's part of our psyche.
As are most of the basic precepts of societies.
Commerce, money all that stuff arose from the basic activities of human beings.
It's a tool that we use to organize the our activities that center around our basic needs.
It's not more of a "creation" than is the way that coyotes gather at dusk and howl and yap.
It serves a purpose. It's an outgrowth of something deeply biological.
There is not board room somewhere where a group of people twirl their mustaches and plan the future.
People everywhere undertake the activities of "making a living" and taking care of themselves and others around them.
They organize to those ends and that creates the foundations for economy, laws etc.
It is only once someone reduces all of this to the idea that it constitutes "ideas" or "ideology".
It is the manifestation of biological imperatives.

Out here we are all his children

BikerDude

  • Dude
  • ******
  • Posts: 3544
  • Time wounds all heels -John Lennon
Re: Chill
« Reply #10 on: October 25, 2018, 09:17:47 AM »
This is IMO your fundemental mistake.
Galileu Galilei questioned basic principles.
Galileu Galilei was a genius.
You question basic ideas.
You are a genius.

It wasn't the questioning of ideas that makes Galileu Galilei special.
Nor was it Einstein. Or any of the other great scientists and intellectuals.
It was the content of what they had to say.

Out here we are all his children

BikerDude

  • Dude
  • ******
  • Posts: 3544
  • Time wounds all heels -John Lennon
Re: Chill
« Reply #11 on: October 25, 2018, 09:19:13 AM »
Money is not a myth.

Out here we are all his children

BikerDude

  • Dude
  • ******
  • Posts: 3544
  • Time wounds all heels -John Lennon
Re: Chill
« Reply #12 on: October 25, 2018, 09:22:21 AM »
Money is the agreed method used to conduct commerce.
The exchange of goods and services.
You can continue to call it a myth but it is nothing but word salad.
A car is not a myth.
A job is not a myth.
A hamburger and fries is not a myth.

Simply sheo horning the term "myth" into representing anything that is conceptual is nothing but a parlor game.

Out here we are all his children

BikerDude

  • Dude
  • ******
  • Posts: 3544
  • Time wounds all heels -John Lennon
Re: Chill
« Reply #13 on: October 25, 2018, 09:26:31 AM »
There is a reality and we manifest our relationships with that reality in conceptual ways.
Money being one of them.
The reality is that, for instance, "those who don't eat, without exception die".
Therefore we need food (and shelter and other things) in order for ourselves and others to survive.
Out of those basic biological realities arises a whole system of conceptual realities devoted to certain ends.
The crux of what you are saying is that the entire process that led to economies everywhere are actually just silly.
Fools.
You are way smarter than all of that.
And the world should throw that all out and listen to your fabulous glory.
Eat a turd.
 

Out here we are all his children

BikerDude

  • Dude
  • ******
  • Posts: 3544
  • Time wounds all heels -John Lennon
Re: Chill
« Reply #14 on: October 25, 2018, 10:18:31 AM »
As far as the idea that people should strive to be greater than others is equally loathsome.
If the point is that people shouldn't be motivated by our lesser tendencies like pride and envy and avarice OK.
But it's a fine line between striving for greatness and striving for being better than others.
I'd suggest that we as humans are at our very most noble in endeavors that strive for greatness and yes even supremacy.
Heroism means nothing?
Being the first to climb everest?
First in space?
Whatever.
None of these picture mean anything?
I can not express how loathsome I find everything that you are suggesting.






Out here we are all his children

 

Recent Posts

Store

Dude Vinci
Get Dudeism tee shirts, ordination certificates and more. Help feed our monkey.
Click Here

Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.
Did you miss your activation email?
August 03, 2020, 07:32:29 PM

Login with username, password and session length

Recently Posted

Members
  • Total Members: 3299
  • Latest: biap
Stats
  • Total Posts: 53501
  • Total Topics: 6183
  • Online Today: 105
  • Online Ever: 7905
  • (January 16, 2020, 02:55:01 AM)
Users Online
Users: 0
Guests: 47
Total: 47