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"Words of truth are not pleasing.
Pleasing words are not truthful.
The wise one does not argue.
He who argues is not wise.
A wise man of Tao knows the subtle truth,
And may not be learned.
A learned person is knowledgeable but may not know the subtle truth of Tao.
A saint does not possess and accumulate surplus for personal desire.
The more he helps others, the richer his life becomes.
The more he gives to others, the more he gets in return.
The Tao of Nature benefits and does not harm.
The Way of a saint is to act naturally without contention."

Tao Te Ching, Chapter 81

Quote from: Rev. Iconocclesiastes on January 04, 2014, 09:49:30 PM
"Words of truth are not pleasing.
Pleasing words are not truthful.
The wise one does not argue.
He who argues is not wise.
A wise man of Tao knows the subtle truth,
And may not be learned.
A learned person is knowledgeable but may not know the subtle truth of Tao.
A saint does not possess and accumulate surplus for personal desire.
The more he helps others, the richer his life becomes.
The more he gives to others, the more he gets in return.
The Tao of Nature benefits and does not harm.
The Way of a saint is to act naturally without contention."

Tao Te Ching, Chapter 81

good words dude.

Quote from: cckeiser on January 04, 2014, 09:54:45 PM

Quote from: Rev. Iconocclesiastes on January 04, 2014, 09:49:30 PM
"Words of truth are not pleasing.
Pleasing words are not truthful.
The wise one does not argue.
He who argues is not wise.
A wise man of Tao knows the subtle truth,
And may not be learned.
A learned person is knowledgeable but may not know the subtle truth of Tao.
A saint does not possess and accumulate surplus for personal desire.
The more he helps others, the richer his life becomes.
The more he gives to others, the more he gets in return.
The Tao of Nature benefits and does not harm.
The Way of a saint is to act naturally without contention."

Tao Te Ching, Chapter 81

good words dude.

Quote from: cckeiser on January 04, 2014, 09:47:12 PM
I'm just "gun shy" dude...been through way too many battles with fundamentalist who have taken over other discussion boards and swamped them with their gangs....it's just a reflex action anymore.
I am a Christian dude....it's my middle name! I was raised Roman Catholic. 12 years of Catholic schools dude....But pretty much cured myself of that some 40 years ago.
I do not hate Christians....I pity them...and also fear them....just as much as I do the Islamist and any other militant Fundamentalist.
I do  not want to see Dudeism taken over by the Christian Church and made just another extension of their faith as they have done down through history with other beliefs. (I saw a Dude Jesus somewhere not that long ago....really pissed me off!)
Dudeism/Taoism has no gods...it's an Atheistic philosophy. We are not concerned with the Hereafter, just the Here and Now...and how to abide and take er easy when surrounded by Fascist...Nihilist...Marmots...Real Reactionaries and other Human Paraquat of all types.
We just want to relax and enjoy a J ,and maybe a white russian now and then and the simple pleasures in life....you know driving around...bowling and the occasional acid flashbacks.
But I am Not the voice of Dudeism....I am just one of many here and elsewhere....Dudeism is organic it twists and turns and grows with its members. I am just one voice among many.

Now that we all have gotten all the shit out of the way....carry on dudes.
Take er easy....abide and....please do no harm dudes.

It's simple: I am not a fundamentalist anything.  And I am not a Bible-thumping fundamentalist by a long shot.  But I do beleive that Jesus is who He says that He is, and that He is not a liar nor a madman. 

And you never answered my question, man: what is our operative definition of "Bible-thumper" here?

Quote from: Rev. Iconocclesiastes on January 04, 2014, 09:49:30 PM
But I do believe that Jesus is who He says that He is, and that He is not a liar nor a madman. 

That for me is Over The Line dude...it's preaching your faith and promoting your Christian pov. Anything similar will be quickly deleted.
And this is the end of the discussion dude.
Discussing your faith even in debate is the same as promoting it.
I was of two minds on whether to reply to you post or not....I did not and do not owe you anything, but gave you the benefit of the doubt and replied so we can all get on with getting on.
Do Not push it further "dude".

Don't push what further?  So now you are telling me what I am and am not allowed to say, and how I am and am not allowed to say it? 

Quote from: cckeiser on January 04, 2014, 10:06:18 PM

Quote from: Rev. Iconocclesiastes on January 04, 2014, 09:49:30 PM
But I do believe that Jesus is who He says that He is, and that He is not a liar nor a madman. 

That for me is Over The Line dude...it's preaching your faith and promoting your Christian pov. Anything similar will be quickly deleted.
And this is the end of the discussion dude.
Discussing your faith even in debate is the same as promoting it.
I was of two minds on whether to reply to you post or not....I did not and do not owe you anything, but gave you the benefit of the doubt and replied so we can all get on with getting on.
Do Not push it further "dude".

Thank you for proving my point for me, cckeiser.  You just don't like Christians and Christianity.  Come on, admit it.  I am not offended.

"Discussing your faith even in debate is the same as promoting it."

Well, that's just, like, your opinion, man.

Like "dude"....I already told you I was an Atheist And an Anti-Theist. That should have been clear enough.
Dude...do yourself a big one and do a forum search for "I was raised Roman Catholic" and read the post under my name.
I mean really "dude"....you haven't been here very long and you are already causing problems and upsetting our nice quiet beach community. You are just contributing to what we already feel about Christians and why we are very leery when one joins our forum. It very seldom turns out well. I was hoping you would be the exception "dude"....please do not prove me wrong.
You are This Close to getting booted "dude".

Quote from: cckeiser on January 04, 2014, 10:06:18 PM

Quote from: Rev. Iconocclesiastes on January 04, 2014, 09:49:30 PM
But I do believe that Jesus is who He says that He is, and that He is not a liar nor a madman. 

That for me is Over The Line dude...it's preaching your faith and promoting your Christian pov. Anything similar will be quickly deleted.
And this is the end of the discussion dude.
Discussing your faith even in debate is the same as promoting it.
I was of two minds on whether to reply to you post or not....I did not and do not owe you anything, but gave you the benefit of the doubt and replied so we can all get on with getting on.
Do Not push it further "dude".

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These are the terms of use that I agreed to abide by when I registered to use this forum.  I do not see anything in there that says something along the lines of "Do not post anything about Jesus or Christianity" or "Do not post anything that cckeiser does not like to read about."

And as long as I am abiding by the (above-posted) rules of these forums, cckeiser, then you have no right in any sense to dictate to me what I am and am not allowed to write, and how I am and am not allowed to right it  YOU, sir, are over the line, and are very much in the wrong here.  and what's more, your taking offense to differing points of view with respect to our individual interpretations of Dudeism makes you look like a hypocrite.  Where's the tolerance in that?  You just come across like a condescending glassbowl when you write that you "pity" Christians (and by extension, that you pity me).

Shall I write to the Dudely Lama and ask him to arbitrate the matter, cckeiser?

Icon dude, you're asking for a definition of being a bible basher.  You're doing it now by being so forward with your stance that Jesus is who he said he was.  That being: the son of God, Savior of the world, THE one and only pre-eminent being that is the only hope for mankind.  If you do not believe these things, don't call yourself a Christian.  If you do, you can't call yourself a Dudeist, as Dudeism does not equal Theism. 

Ya, let's see why Ollie has to say. He must be getting tired of this...  ;-)

Quote from: Rev. Iconocclesiastes on January 04, 2014, 10:52:59 PM

Shall I write to the Dudely Lama and ask him to arbitrate the matter, cckeiser?

I already did.

Quote from: cckeiser on January 04, 2014, 10:57:16 PM

Quote from: Rev. Iconocclesiastes on January 04, 2014, 10:52:59 PM

Shall I write to the Dudely Lama and ask him to arbitrate the matter, cckeiser?

I already did.

Me too.

PISSING MATCH!!!!   Woo Hoo!!!!!!!

(Sorry, I got my shine on with some home brew)...

Good. In that case I will let him boot your ass off the forum!

Above, I posted the terms of use that I agreed to abide by when I registered to use this forum.  I do not see anything in there that says something along the lines of "Do not post anything about Jesus or Christianity" or "Do not post anything that cckeiser does not like to read about."

You're over the line, cckeiser.  Stay in your lane, dude.  As long as I am not breaking any of the rules, then you can stay out of policing me, in terms of imposing upon my freedom of expression.   It makes you look like an intolerant hypocrite.  I'm not here to shove any Bible-talk down your throat, so kindly please do not shove any of your anti-theism down mine.  Deal?

Quote from: cckeiser on January 04, 2014, 11:03:42 PM
Good. In that case I will let him boot your ass off the forum!

You are being very un-dude.  Wow, you are a very intolerant atheist.  Just as intolerant as any fundy Bible-banger I ever met, in fact.