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Another thing: I am also a member of the Church of the SubGenius; if I wanted to quote from Rev. Stang, Dr. Drummond, or the Book of the SubGenius is somebody gonna accuse me of "'Bob'"-banging"?

Quoteas long as nobody pushes any angry-atheist anti-theisitic hidden-agenda dogmas on me in return.  That kind of aggression will not stand, man.  Live and let live.

I don't think anyone here has an angry atheistic slant per se; but be aware most of us don't subscribe to any theistic belief. 

But it seems "living and let live" is on YOUR terms of no one offending your sense of anti-theism.  YOUR rules, not ours.

(Post deleted by the Swami.  Sorry about that.)

Quote from: Hominid on January 04, 2014, 06:19:15 PM
But it seems "living and let live" is on YOUR terms of no one offending your sense of anti-theism.  YOUR rules, not ours.

No, you are not right.  It's not about my rules.  I'm not here to preach anything to anybody, and don't want to be preached to myself.  That's all I am saying.   

And nobody answered my question, either.  So please allow me to repeat it: what exactly is our operative definition of "Bible-thumping"?  I want that to be made clear to me, just so I can make sure not to go over the line.  Or, am I allowed to quote from anything and everything other than the Bible?

Damn, I did not mean to double-post.  Sorry about that.  Hmmm, let me try and delete the other...

Hm. I guess the difference is subtle... yes, you're not preaching or bible-bashing.  Yet you claim to be a theist, so that just means it's just a matter of time before you'll tangle with any one of us.  ;-)

That's all.

Quote from: Hominid on January 04, 2014, 06:41:22 PM
Hm. I guess the difference is subtle... yes, you're not preaching or bible-bashing.  Yet you claim to be a theist, so that just means it's just a matter of time before you'll tangle with any one of us.  ;-)

That's all.

Quote from: Rev. Iconocclesiastes on January 04, 2014, 06:26:35 PM

Quote from: Hominid on January 04, 2014, 06:19:15 PM
But it seems "living and let live" is on YOUR terms of no one offending your sense of anti-theism.  YOUR rules, not ours.

No, you are not right.  It's not about my rules.  I'm not here to preach anything to anybody, and don't want to be preached to myself.  That's all I am saying.   

And nobody answered my question, either.  So please allow me to repeat it: what exactly is our operative definition of "Bible-thumping"?  I want that to be made clear to me, just so I can make sure not to go over the line.  Or, am I allowed to quote from anything and everything other than the Bible?

Damn, I did not mean to double-post.  Sorry about that.  Hmmm, let me try and delete the other...

Seriously, friends: I'm not trying to scam anybody here, and I'm not trying to start any trouble, much less a fight. 

It's a fair question: what exactly is this forum's operative definition of "Bible-thumping"?  I just want to know about that up-front, so that I do not accidentally engage in any.   Am I being very undude in even asking about this?

Tangle with anybody?  Why would I want to tangle with anybody?  Why would anybody want to tangle with me?  Now, that is undude. 

Say Homonid, would you like to know what I really think about the matter?

QuoteSay Homonid, would you like to know what I really think about the matter?

Well, sure, just be up-front.  The only point here is the difference between how we express our stance of being theistic and non-theistic. No one has accused you of being a bible-basher; I'm just saying that being a theist leans you towards the latter.  So far, no need to argue.  Just explaining the ground rules.

Watching this thread I think I will be alienated because of belief in the divine of any kind. Is it me or the quoting of Tao and sutras from Buddhists a push to acknowledgment of some kind of unknowable things often believed by some to be divine? I hope I can be real and share in here and not worry my spiritual Johnson is going to be cut off. In the Dudespaper there are several articles that acknowledge JC, but is it taboo in here?

Not sure you could quote any popular saying without it being tied to SOME religion or other.  There's also music, mostly what isn't based on Shakespeare is based on religion...or both.

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Dammit, another double-post.  Sorry, dudes.

First of all: frankly, I think that some of you just simply do not like Christians and Christianity, and that you are using the Dudeist//Taosist thing as a pretext through which you might ostensibly justify this prejudice.  Otherwise, comments like cckeiser's about being an "anti-theist" would not be necessary, as it's needlessly antagonistic IMO.

For a true dude is not "anti"-anything, in my opinion. 

A true dude favors honesty, humility, and (above all) love.  These are the Three Treasures. 

A true dude opposes greed, hypocrisy, and self-righteousness.  But that (opposing greed, etc.) is different than being "anti"-minded. 

A true dude does not judge others, does not compare him- or her-self to others, and suspends their propensity to understand others. 

In short: a true dude lives, and lets live.

For another thing: became a Dudeist in order to have some kind of like-minded fellowship among the community of other dudes, for intellectual stimulation, to learn from others, and simply to have a few laughs. 

I DID NOT become a Dudeist so that I could get mixed up in some kind of weird quasi-religion, or else some kind of "cult" in the parlance of our times.  In a sense, Dudeism is not "real" to me.  And in a sense, it is. 

Those who know what Dudeism is, do not say, and those who say what Dudeism is, do not know.  This is my realization.

Disagreement does not equal disrespect. Expressing a disagreement does not constitute an ad hominem attack against the person being disagreed with. If it did, then we'd be in trouble, as that's when a "parody religion" turns into an actually destructive "cult".

Non-conformist groups are often just vectors of control for people who take themselves and the groups with which they identify (and indeed, by which they identify themselves) waaaaay to seriously.  And in my estimation, it's not so different here in this forum.  Groupthink is a universal phenomenon, common among all kids of cohesive groups.  And I resist and reject groupthink in all forms, and in all situational contexts.

Quote from: Rev. Iconocclesiastes on January 04, 2014, 08:41:42 PM
First of all: frankly, I think that some of you just simply do not like Christians and Christianity, and that you are using the Dudeist//Taosist thing as a pretext through which you might ostensibly justify this prejudice.  Otherwise, comments like cckeiser's about being an "anti-theist" would not be necessary, as it's needlessly antagonistic IMO.

For a true dude is not "anti"-anything, in my opinion. 

A true dude favors honesty, humility, and (above all) love.  These are the Three Treasures. 

A true dude opposes greed, hypocrisy, and self-righteousness.  But that (opposing greed, etc.) is different than being "anti"-minded. 

A true dude does not judge others, does not compare him- or her-self to others, and suspends their propensity to understand others. 

In short: a true dude lives, and lets live.

For another thing: became a Dudeist in order to have some kind of like-minded fellowship among the community of other dudes, for intellectual stimulation, to learn from others, and simply to have a few laughs. 

I DID NOT become a Dudeist so that I could get mixed up in some kind of weird quasi-religion, or else some kind of "cult" in the parlance of our times.  In a sense, Dudeism is not "real" to me.  And in a sense, it is. 

Those who know what Dudeism is, do not say, and those who say what Dudeism is, do not know.  This is my realization.

Disagreement does not equal disrespect. Expressing a disagreement does not constitute an ad hominem attack against the person being disagreed with. If it did, then we'd be in trouble, as that's when a "parody religion" turns into an actually destructive "cult".

Non-conformist groups are often just vectors of control for people who take themselves and the groups with which they identify (and indeed, by which they identify themselves) waaaaay to seriously.  And in my estimation, it's not so different here in this forum.  Groupthink is a universal phenomenon, common among all kids of cohesive groups.  And I resist and reject groupthink in all forms, and in all situational contexts.

Now that that's out of the way: how can I help, dudes?

I'm just "gun shy" dude...been through way too many battles with fundamentalist who have taken over other discussion boards and swamped them with their gangs....it's just a reflex action anymore.
I am a Christian dude....it's my middle name! I was raised Roman Catholic. 12 years of Catholic schools dude....But pretty much cured myself of that some 40 years ago.
I do not hate Christians....I pity them...and also fear them....just as much as I do the Islamist and any other militant Fundamentalist.
I do  not want to see Dudeism taken over by the Christian Church and made just another extension of their faith as they have done down through history with other beliefs. (I saw a Dude Jesus somewhere not that long ago....really pissed me off!)
Dudeism/Taoism has no gods...it's an Atheistic philosophy. We are not concerned with the Hereafter, just the Here and Now...and how to abide and take er easy when surrounded by Fascist...Nihilist...Marmots...Real Reactionaries and other Human Paraquat of all types.
We just want to relax and enjoy a J ,and maybe a white russian now and then and the simple pleasures in life....you know driving around...bowling and the occasional acid flashbacks.
But I am Not the voice of Dudeism....I am just one of many here and elsewhere....Dudeism is organic it twists and turns and grows with its members. I am just one voice among many.

Now that we all have gotten all the shit out of the way....carry on dudes.
Take er easy....abide and....please do no harm dudes.