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They Sold Their Souls For Rock N Roll .
Truly makes you wonder what it's like to walk around with your head actually all the way up your ass?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4g_diStlSqM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LsW79FGU6Bo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vCGr1z-pB68
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xa_EGQHxzRY

I was actually interested in watching this but dropped 35 seconds into the video.

They start it by just pouring a bowl of shit onto rock-n-roll stars and call them 'lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of god'

It's a religious thing, so that's where I stop. Just to be clear, I don't have anything against religion or religious people, but I hate this stupid theory many fanatical people have that 'loving god' automatically makes you a good person and the other way around.

This is the same kind of people as those who say videogames train murderers

I totally agree with BT. Video games + rock n roll does not make people evil.

They did not sold their soul
'cause their soul is rock n roll. (woohoo lame poetry at 6 A.M.... gonna need more tea, I think...)

Quote from: BikerDude on October 16, 2013, 11:08:39 AM
They Sold Their Souls For Rock N Roll .
Truly makes you wonder what it's like to walk around with your head actually all the way up your ass?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4g_diStlSqM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LsW79FGU6Bo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vCGr1z-pB68
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xa_EGQHxzRY

Well, that's just like their opinion, man.

I'm with BT. I wanted to watch it, but then they recited biblical verses. Any time anyone starts with the phrases "sold their souls" or "they sold out," I pretty much figure it's a bunch of bullshit. So, yeah, couldn't watch it, either.

It's a dangerous belief system, because they want to change the world to their perspective. They think they're doing everyone a favour, including God. 

Who doesn't exist by the way...

Think I'll have a beer.

Quote from: Hominid on October 18, 2013, 07:08:10 PM
It's a dangerous belief system, because they want to change the world to their perspective. They think they're doing everyone a favour, including God. 

Who doesn't exist by the way...

Think I'll have a beer.

Quote from: Hominid on October 18, 2013, 07:08:10 PM
They think they're doing everyone a favour, including God. 

Who doesn't exist by the way...

That depends on what you put in the word 'god'. If it's a bearded guy sitting on a cloud and deciding whether or not to let dead people in depending on how they lived - then no, he does not exist.

If it's an entity, a mind or even an essense responsible for... well, existence - then who knows? Agnosticism right here

Quote from: Bullett00th on October 16, 2013, 05:36:24 PM
...It's a religious thing, so that's where I stop. Just to be clear, I don't have anything against religion or religious people, but I hate this stupid theory many fanatical people have that 'loving god' automatically makes you a good person and the other way around...

Point of order here please, its not a "religious thing" it's a christian thing.

Christianity does not represent the be all and end all of religions.

Apart from that completely agree once they start spouting christian indoctrination my brain turns off.

Quote from: meekon5 on October 21, 2013, 06:15:33 AM

Quote from: Bullett00th on October 16, 2013, 05:36:24 PM
...It's a religious thing, so that's where I stop. Just to be clear, I don't have anything against religion or religious people, but I hate this stupid theory many fanatical people have that 'loving god' automatically makes you a good person and the other way around...

Point of order here please, its not a "religious thing" it's a christian thing.

Christianity does not represent the be all and end all of religions.

Apart from that completely agree once they start spouting christian indoctrination my brain turns off.

If interpreted and marketed in a certain way, almost any religion can be used to manipulate people into thinking certain things. I won't argue whether or not christianity has more manipulative potential than other religions, but my point stands. In this particular example - yes, it's christianity. But other religions can be used to steer people towards or away from other social groups as well.
That's just, you know, like, my opinion, man.


That said, again - I've got nothing against it as long as it's one's own belief and doesn't hurt anybody. On top of that, there's spirituality, which is on a whole other level. Religiousness and spirituality are supposed to walk hand in hand, but for many people they part ways. Plus, there are religions that personally I wouldn't call religions. Like Buddhism. It may be standing on the fundament of certain myths, like every other religion, but in its essense it looks like a philosophy of life rather than a set of rules to follow and deities to worship.

Quote from: Bullett00th on October 21, 2013, 05:00:11 AM

Quote from: Hominid on October 18, 2013, 07:08:10 PM
They think they're doing everyone a favour, including God. 

Who doesn't exist by the way...

That depends on what you put in the word 'god'. If it's a bearded guy sitting on a cloud and deciding whether or not to let dead people in depending on how they lived - then no, he does not exist.

If it's an entity, a mind or even an essense responsible for... well, existence - then who knows? Agnosticism right here

The existence of God is pretty much irrelevant. Religion does exist.
And most people in the US believe in the bearded guy on a cloud. It's sad but true.
Over 40% of Americans believe that we are living in the "End Times".
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/09/25/1241204/-41-of-Americans-believe-End-Times-upon-us-this-is-what-holds-us-back-more-than-anything-else#
Just over 4 in ten people in the most powerful military nation on earth believe that Jesus will be coming back to punish the wicked and in fact look forward to that along with the whole apocalyptic mash of tongues of fire and unimaginable suffering for the evil (read non christian). And  in any practical way completely impossible for a person to hold high office without believing in this crud.
We pretty much guarantee that every single person entrusted with the abilities to wage war believes that all non Christians will be essentially tortured for being non Christian and in most cases that it will happen very soon.
Whenever the dialog about belief in God turns to some force behind a force it seems to me that it misses the entire issue.
God is not the issue. It's people fueled by the insane teaching of religion. Mostly the Christian religions and Islam.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3s6JFoIVnTw

Quote from: Bullett00th on October 21, 2013, 08:16:41 AM

Quote from: meekon5 on October 21, 2013, 06:15:33 AM

Quote from: Bullett00th on October 16, 2013, 05:36:24 PM
...It's a religious thing, so that's where I stop. Just to be clear, I don't have anything against religion or religious people, but I hate this stupid theory many fanatical people have that 'loving god' automatically makes you a good person and the other way around...

Point of order here please, its not a "religious thing" it's a christian thing.

Christianity does not represent the be all and end all of religions.

Apart from that completely agree once they start spouting christian indoctrination my brain turns off.

If interpreted and marketed in a certain way, almost any religion can be used to manipulate people into thinking certain things. I won't argue whether or not christianity has more manipulative potential than other religions, but my point stands. In this particular example - yes, it's christianity. But other religions can be used to steer people towards or away from other social groups as well.
That's just, you know, like, my opinion, man.

Here I think you need to be careful not confusing opinion with fact. just because you use words a certain way does not mean that everyone does, and does not mean that you are using them the correct way.

You must understand that certain of us come from very academic backgrounds, when I gave my lecture here (At The Natural History Museum, UK) on Modern Paganism I spent a good ten to fifteen minutes defining what "I" meant by the word paganism (it's not as obvious as it may at first seem).

The same principle applies here.

I am very interested in your split between "Spiritualism" and "Religion" could you further define this for me please?

Transcendence and Spirituality with Sam Harris

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g0B-cUSX57Q

Quote from: Bullett00th on October 21, 2013, 05:00:11 AM

Quote from: Hominid on October 18, 2013, 07:08:10 PM
They think they're doing everyone a favour, including God. 

Who doesn't exist by the way...

That depends on what you put in the word 'god'. If it's a bearded guy sitting on a cloud and deciding whether or not to let dead people in depending on how they lived - then no, he does not exist.

If it's an entity, a mind or even an essense responsible for... well, existence - then who knows? Agnosticism right here

Actually I thought it was St peter who decides if you come into heaven or not isn't he the gate keeper there?

QuoteActually I thought it was St peter who decides if you come into heaven or not isn't he the gate keeper there?

That's just for Catholics I believe.