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I like the way you think DB

Quote from: purple_drank on July 15, 2013, 08:50:06 PM
I like the way you think DB

Yeah, man, I wish people would get over the race thing and learn to be dude-like toward other people. It's a dangerous world out there sometimes, we need to be cool to each other. Fuck racism!

As I pointed out before; it's the little details of a case that can prove something either way...

- The reason Trayvon was out buying skittles and water melon tea, it makes "lean". A drug cocktail made with Robitussin. Can make you paranoid and aggressive.

- A slim jim (burglary tool) was found near the crime scene by a detective. Travvon was seen looking into cars and home windows before accosting Zimmerman.

- Toxicology tests showed Martin had traces of THC in his system.

Something to think about, mangs.

Having THC in your system is a crime now? Who knew? Careful dudes....

Quote from: Caesar dude on July 17, 2013, 09:21:25 PM
Having THC in your system is a crime now? Who knew? Careful dudes....

Not to me, but neither is having alcohol in your system; but both can affect your judgement. And in a court of law, anything can be evidence pro or con, whether legal or not.

 What would the Dude have done that night had he been Zimmerman or Martin? I can't see the Dude packing heat and I can't see him packing skittles. The whole situation sucks gutter balls

Well you can either believe that your criminal justice system is honest and above board. Or change it.

Was OJ guilty? Should Clinton have been impeached..etc...

In the Uk we have very few miscarriages of justice anymore. The British public are perhaps more savvy and know injustice when they see it. Recently we've had a string of historical high profile paedophiles coming to court. One of these a guy called Stuart Hall was given a paltry sentence. The Public didn't like this at all...so his sentence has now been reviewed and in fact further charges are being brought against him.

The UK is far more introspective in it's criminal law and is constantly updating laws to ensure the fairness of the whole system. It still sucks...don't get me wrong here but at least we are trying...

We don't have a Guantanamo for instance!

Quote from: Lost Coast Dude on July 17, 2013, 11:18:32 PM
What would the Dude have done that night had he been Zimmerman or Martin? I can't see the Dude packing heat and I can't see him packing skittles. The whole situation sucks gutter balls

Upon seeing Martin peeking in people's homes, he might have said "hey, this is a private residence, man!" Or maybe he would have said "fuck it, I'm going bowling."

And Lost Coast Dude, welcome to our quiet (most of the time) beach community. Grab an oat soda and abide, dude. Good to have you here!

Quote from: Caesar dude on July 17, 2013, 11:33:36 PM
Well you can either believe that your criminal justice system is honest and above board. Or change it.

Was OJ guilty? Should Clinton have been impeached..etc...

In the Uk we have very few miscarriages of justice anymore. The British public are perhaps more savvy and know injustice when they see it. Recently we've had a string of historical high profile paedophiles coming to court. One of these a guy called Stuart Hall was given a paltry sentence. The Public didn't like this at all...so his sentence has now been reviewed and in fact further charges are being brought against him.

The UK is far more introspective in it's criminal law and is constantly updating laws to ensure the fairness of the whole system. It still sucks...don't get me wrong here but at least we are trying...

We don't have a Guantanamo for instance!

Be glad you didn't have gitmo, it's a pain in the ass!

A pain in the ass of your own making....

Quote from: Caesar dude on July 18, 2013, 12:12:52 AM
A pain in the ass of your own making....

Probably true, but I don't think we want these undudes free and running around town...





If we don't go Walter on them and pull a piece out and shoot them, we needed to lock them up.

Oh hell no Caesar Dude, our judicial system is not perfect by any means!
I wish we could change things for the better but the problem with that is that our country is so divided, whatever the dividing factor may be at the time, that nobody can agree on anything good enough for us to provide a fix for many situations.

I'm not trying to be rude or be a jerk but you're kind of making it sound like you think that British people in general are more intelligent than Americans and that we aren't even trying to fix our problems, like you're better than us or something. I hope I'm wrong but that's the impression I got from a couple of your statements there. Granted we've had a disagreement or two, but you don't appear to me like the kind of guy who would be that prejudicial, and perhaps I just misunderstood.
In my opinion the British are not smarter or better than Americans, and Americans are not smarter or better than the British, or anyone else for that matter. Though I will gladly tell people that we are the best country, that's merely a statement of pride in my country (despite it's flaws) and not meant as an insult towards anybody elses country.

In all fairness though there's bound to be more problems in a larger country that contains a more diverse cultural background than in a smaller one where most people are from the same heritage and belief systems, due simply to the fact that the more people of diversity there are, the more people there are to have vastly different views on each and every issue at hand.
Comparatively speaking Britain is like moving everybody from California (liberal state) into Texas (conservative state), same approx size, population and background diversity; yeah, that would be a lot easier to govern and enforce laws in man, but it's just not realistic in our situation. I hope that came out understandable and not offensive, I'm not always the best at explaining things

Maybe a simpler way to put it would be to ask; what's easier, cleaning just your bedroom or cleaning your whole house?


If you take for instance, the OJ incident you mentioned. It seems like a good comparison to Trayvon catastrophe, I'm not saying they were the same circumstances or anything but the end result was similar.

Let me explain...
OJ was a black man accused of killing two white people; he was found not guilty and many white people were very upset over this verdict.
Zimmerman was a (for this case in point we'll just call him white) man who killed a black man; he was found not guilty and many black people were very upset over this verdict.
In the end both cases had pretty much the same result, however,

After OJ, white people didn't start rioting and throwing a huge belligerent fit, white people just called it bullshit and went on with their daily lives.

After Trayvon, (largely due to the influence of race-baiting hate mongers like Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson) black people started rioting and assaulting/killing random innocent white people and calling it justice for Trayvon (a little boy in Kansas City, MO was walking home from school recently when a couple black boys attacked him, poured gas on him and set him on fire on his front porch, all in the name of 'justice for Trayvon'. There are many other recent examples but I only mention this one in particular because I live fairly close to KC so this one kinda hits closer to home for me).

See, HUGE divide, and that's only an example of the race issues in our country, there are many other dividing factors that are all just as stupid and pathetic as the next one or the one before it. But that diversity (when you get past the petty shit that so many people try to exploit for their own personal gain) symbolizes what America is supposed to stand for (Everybody is welcome [so long as they do it legally and aren't terrorists], Everybody has the same rights and Everybody has the same opportunities as Everybody else; and the freedoms that many countries around the world are destroying themselves to achieve/stop).

And Gitmo... We hate Gitmo just as much as you.
Although DB is right about it being a good place to keep terrorists (these people have proven themselves to be lower than lowlife scum (with the kinds of acts they condone, promote and commit I'm almost inclined to not even consider them human), I'm not saying we should torture them... but I'm not, not saying it either lol.

Quoteyou're kind of making it sound like you think that British people in general are more intelligent than Americans and that we aren't even trying to fix our problems, like you're better than us or something.

Fuck me dude, we have more than our share of assholes over here! I have never and will never say that Brits are more intelligent than Americans...what an undudely statement! Even as a generalisation it would be wrong! How could you think such a thing? I'm an asshole sometimes...but not that much of an ass! You have more assholes...but then again you have more Mcdonalds!??

That's not what I meant at all!

My comment about the Travyon/Zimmerman case is purely based on the rhetoric and comments that I see on the internet. This case has not been reported AT ALL in the UK. Not one newspaper inch has been given to it. That's how important it is in British psyche: Worse than that though is the fact that you are now telling me there are deaths and violence being attributed to the case! This is also not being reported!

My point was: If you don't like your legal system then change it, don't moan about it on the internet! In Uk if the general population have a gripe about a verdict...then damned sure it will be looked into again. Ie. Stuart Hall (look it up, I had to with Zimmerman!)

GITMO? Well you collectively elected someone who stated that he would get rid of Guantanamo. He didn't and in fact has done the opposite! That is not right! Not Right at all! If that had happened in Britain the guy would be out on his ear guaranteed! This would have been an emotive issue in Britain and a vote winner. If he'd promised that and then renegade he would be out...it's not school fees or road tax...this is inhumanity!

QuoteAlthough DB is right about it being a good place to keep terrorists (these people have proven themselves to be lower than lowlife scum (with the kinds of acts they condone, promote and commit I'm almost inclined to not even consider them human), I'm not saying we should torture them... but I'm not, not saying it either lol.

Really? Proven huh? Beyond all reasonable doubt? Honestly?

Ok here's a guy, He's a comedian in the UK. he's more well known for being outrageous and is certainly not what one would call a hippy! have a read!

http://www.guardian.co.uk/culture/2013/jul/19/frankie-boyle-joins-guantanamo-hunger-strike

Peace dude.

Caesar Dude,
I hope I can explain this without confusing or insulting you any further because I'm truly not trying to be a jerk or anything like that.

These two statements here was what I was referring to about the "more intelligent" and "better than" statements:

Quote from: Caesar dude on July 17, 2013, 11:33:36 PM
The British public are perhaps more savvy and know injustice when they see it.

The UK is far more introspective in it's criminal law and is constantly updating laws to ensure the fairness of the whole system.

Like I said, I probably just misunderstood the message you were trying to relay and that's also why I said that I may have misunderstood what you meant and that I didn't really think of you as being that prejudicial towards people. Apparently I did misunderstand you and I apologize if it came out wrong but I also hope you can take a look at those two sentences and kind of try and see how I might have made that mistake.

Be glad you don't have to be inundated with all the Trayvon/Zimmerman bs, it's the only thing on our news channels anymore (not literally the ONLY thing but I'm sure you know what I mean).
I wish that we hadn't heard about the case either; the news about it should have never left the local area in which it happened, but unfortunately other people saw it as a way to inspire more hate, further divide the people of our country and distract the general public from the atrocities that our president is committing.

We really are trying to change things for the better but our current President has somehow convinced many people here that he's trying to fix things when in reality he's doing everything in his power to destroy our country. He not only stops us from challenging the decisions he makes but lies to us about them or claims their for our own safety. When people stand up to him he just tells the brainwashed masses that the people standing up to his tyranny are liars

Trust me dude, I DID NOT vote for that man, I voted AGAINST him and I am trying to help inform the people of his lies/crimes as well as signing petitions and attending protests to get rid of him and his corrupt administration. I'm only one man but at least I'm trying which is a lot more than I can say about some people I know. They complain about him sure but they won't even make an attempt to fix the situation

And about Gitmo, like you said, he bold faced lied about it (and it's not his only lie by any means!!!) Gitmo isn't one of the things I listed directly in the post about "What has happened to the America I love" but was certainly one of the things I was referring to. It's imprisonment and mistreatment of innocent people is horrible and it's only a sample of the things that this man is doing to ruin our country.

When I mentioned DB being correct about keeping terrorists in there I was talking about the people who have proven themselves to be inhuman and thrive on doing harm to others, not the innocent people who have been imprisoned and abused there.
I'm referring to the people who hijacked planes and flew them into the twin towers on 9/11, set off  bombs at the Boston marathon, are constantly killing or seriously injuring people just because they don't follow the same religion, the people who killed Drummer Lee Rigby for no reason at all, the ones who are raping women and then throwing them in jail over it for "having sex outside of marriage", and plenty more detestable and inhumane things these people are doing across the world.
People who do these sorts of things are 'terrorists' and they'll keep doing these things unless they're stopped and locked away from innocent people that they would do harm to. They're doing this crap all over the world and they need to be stopped, if not Gitmo then someplace, but I think we can all agree that these terrorists do not need to be roaming the earth free to hurt and kill people.

Thanks for the link there's a rapper/actor here in the US (his name is Mos Def) who is undergoing the force feeding thing as a form of protest against treatment at Gitmo so I'm glad to see that other people across the world are willing to stand up to this stuff as well. Hopefully they can get through to our govt but it's just one more thing I fear Obama will just cover up or distract us from so he can continue to do whatever he pleases. I am a little confused about the "not what one would call a hippy!", I don't know if hippy means the same thing in England as it does in America.

... aaaand back to Islam and terrorism.  You Dudes have got some real stamina for this topic, I'll give you that.



Peace, Dudes. Don't forget to take 'er easy.