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You have to be kidding!!! This asshole KILLS 77 in cold blood...SEVENTY SEVEN people and gets a mere 21 years in jail!!! That calculates out to only 3.27 months for each person he slaughtered. ONLY 3.27 months for each life he destroyed.

Breivik admits killing 77 people in bomb and shooting attacks last year. He says this was necessary to prevent "Islamisation" and insists he is sane.

MARK IT ZERO FOR THE IDIOT JUDGES - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-19376468

Read the rest of the Norwegian article.

Yes he got 21 years. That is the maximum under the law there. However. His sentenced will be continually reviewed and will most likely be incremented 5 years at a time. FOR EVER until he dies.

I salute the Norwegians for the way the way the have responded to this murderous bastard. They haven't compromised their integrity by trying to change the law in order to satiate an immediate desire for revenge.

State sponsored murder has no place in the 21st century. Read this:

http://www.reprieve.org.uk/publiceducation/2010_02_15_ReprieveAgainstTheDP_Main/#.UDgkXsGPUep

Let the twat rot in prison for ever.

Quote from: Caesar dude on August 24, 2012, 08:56:55 PM
Read the rest of the Norwegian article.

Yes he got 21 years. That is the maximum under the law there. However. His sentenced will be continually reviewed and will most likely be incremented 5 years at a time. FOR EVER until he dies.

I salute the Norwegians for the way the way the have responded to this murderous bastard. They haven't compromised their integrity by trying to change the law in order to satiate an immediate desire for revenge.

State sponsored murder has no place in the 21st century. Read this:

http://www.reprieve.org.uk/publiceducation/2010_02_15_ReprieveAgainstTheDP_Main/#.UDgkXsGPUep

Let the twat rot in prison for ever.

Well, dude, yeah possibly, but IMHDO, he should have been sentenced to death, that would be forever too. "likely" is just not good enough for a deliberate cold blooded mass murderer. I say Let the twat rot hell forever.

Again, IMHDO. That's just like my opinion, man.

Death would make him a martyr...he wasn't even decent enough to kill himself...so fuck him let him rot in prison!

Are you serious!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?

Quote from: Caesar dude on August 24, 2012, 09:29:37 PM
Death would make him a martyr...he wasn't even decent enough to kill himself...so fuck him let him rot in prison!

At least he would be a dead martyr

Hate to be the one who says this...but it would only raise the death toll to 78.
His death achieves absolutely nothing. It cannot undo anything he has done.
I know the desire for revenge is strong, it's something every human has. But it's not healthy.
We can only try to abide.

I almost agree with you AspiringDude.  I agree that it does nothing to bring back the victims.  And in this case it would make a needless martyr out of this guy.  And further more would potentially lead to more of these attacks.  And j
This is just my own opinion, but anyone that knowingly, willfully, and maliciously takes a life should be subject to the possibility of being put to death.  Not to say it should happen.  Which basically happens now. Obviously there should be some kind of discretion in this.  I mean afterall accidents happen and then there are self defense concerns as well.  I don't believe it is always about revenge although it most of the time is for some.  I feel if you out right commit murder then you give up the right to live.  That particular person was cheated out of having the chance at life by the murderer you know.  I'm not saying it needs to be all wild west and bloody.  Just that the option should he there for consideration.

QuoteAre you serious!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?

I am absolutely serious!

The death penalty has been proved to be ineffective. It does NOT stop murder as most killings take place on the spur of he moment.

Premeditated ones are exactly that and whoever does the killings in those cases do not give a fuck about the consequences.

State sponsored execution is still murder.

No I can agree to all of that and I was referring to only 21 years for killing 77 people.  Like I said above though, if you take a life in cold blood you essentially give away your right to live.  I mean if it were me charged with such I wouldn't expect any less. I know that comes across very Walterish but I can differentiate between accidents and cold blood.

If he was put to death it would put murder on top of murder. If a court of law punishes him for taking lives it does that because we hold human life sacred, even in a secular society. And that is good, man, that is damn good.
But if we hold life so sacred that someone who takes the lives of others must be punished we cannot punish him by doing exactly the same.
Let him stay locked in forever - which has to be done since the moment someone like this gets out, he would plan his next attack; he must never ever be free again - but don't take his life.

QuoteI was referring to only 21 years for killing 77 people.

Under Norwegian Law that is the maximum sentence he can be given. This NY Times article explains it rather well and shows the compassion and the overall feelings of the victims families.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/08/25/world/europe/anders-behring-breivik-murder-trial.html?pagewanted=all

@ Aspiring Dude Couldn't agree more mate.

Peace dudes.

Quote from: Caesar dude on August 25, 2012, 12:59:42 PM

QuoteAre you serious!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?

I am absolutely serious!

The death penalty has been proved to be ineffective. It does NOT stop murder as most killings take place on the spur of he moment.

That could be true, but this was not spur of he moment, it was well planed out and I think that a thought in this coward's mind of losing his own life might well have stopped him from killing 77 innocent people, IMHDO.

The rest of my quote:

QuotePremeditated ones are exactly that and whoever does the killings in those cases do not give a fuck about the consequences.

All Norwegian police are armed. I do not think he was expecting such weak resistance. He bombed Oslo and then town centre then two hours later landed on Utoya island. Where he carried out his shooting of unarmed kids for an hour before being apprehended.

I do not think for a minute he expected such an insipid response from the police or army. But hey that's what happened.

He could have been stopped or shot or taken down at any point in his attacks if the Norwegians had been a bit sharper.

He knew the risks but took them anyway...I don't think he cared a jot for his life at any point...in fact I think he was expecting to be shot and killed.

My dudely opinion of course.

I'm not disagreeing with any of you to be honest.  I whole heartedly believe in the sanctity of life.  But when someone does not, I just feel that they give up their rights to live.  It's up to us to decide and be the better example of society.  That's where is was going.