Dualistic relationship between the dudeist way of life and the square community?

Started by ManRalf, April 05, 2012, 09:37:59 AM

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ManRalf

Something I've been thinking about abit. Is there a sence of a dualistic relationship between the dudeist way of life and the square community? And i mean as a dualism that works both ways (a two way street), The Big Lebowski himself and the Malibu beach community policechief clearly had nothing but the outmost destain for the old duder.

But is there some form of equal feelings from the dudeist standpoint aimed back towards the square community?

Rev. Ed C

Personally, I'd say such ill-feelings are what we'd consider "undude".

Just because I've always been on the fringe society is nothing to be resentful about.  In fact, I've often pitied people for not understanding me, because their lack of empathy is a sign of poor wisdom on their part.  Still, even with pity, I don't look down on them, each to his own, and all that.

I don't think hate, resentment and a lack of understanding should be met with the same.  Afterall, if we can accept them for what they are and empathise with them as fellow human being, that's just a one-up for us ;)
Large chunks of my Dudeist philosophies can be found in my Dudespaper column @
http://dudespaper.com/section/columns/dude-simple/

Where are you Dude? Place your pin @ http://tinyurl.com/dudemap

Caesar dude

I deal with the general public everyday...or the mostly undude community if you like....

I still abide....I actually embarrassed someone into apologising to one of my staff the other day...told him he was being very undude and my co-worker didn't deserve the shit this guy was dishing out...

He looked sheepish...then murmured "I'm having a bad day" to which I replied "so what man he's a human being too" ... at which point the guy walked over and said sorry then drove off! Result! :)
Love is like a butterfly it goes where it pleases and it pleases where it goes. :)

ManRalf

So both of you mean that Dudeism is a reality in your lives?
Would you say that following the dudely ways is something that comes natural or is it something that is something you strive to uphold in your everday lives?

Caesar dude

It's part of my daily way of life. I don't strive for it I just do it...that's not to say that I can't be undude or Walter sometimes, I'm human and sometimes life can take you that way!

90% Dude 10% Walter....that's ok...

Today I was taking my son to see my partner on route to the train station when I realised that he'd left his jacket behind....now this means we would literally have 5 minutes with my partner and then have to return home to get the jacket if we were to make the train....

No worries...shit happens...we laughed and did exactly that...so what it upset our plans to spend more time with my lady...we still got to see her and he made his train and he has his jacket..all good.

What would have getting upset done me? We would still have made the journey but with resentment and anger and shouting!

So we laughed and smiled and enjoyed 5 minutes with my lady instead of 30. What the fuck does it matter in the end...life is too short dude.

Peace
Love is like a butterfly it goes where it pleases and it pleases where it goes. :)

Rev. Ed C

Quote from: ManRalf on April 10, 2012, 09:17:43 AM
So both of you mean that Dudeism is a reality in your lives?
Would you say that following the dudely ways is something that comes natural or is it something that is something you strive to uphold in your everday lives?

Well, it should be natural, but whether it comes naturally or not is another matter.

Every dude is unique in their outlook, but we share a lot of common factors in our views on the world and how to live in it.  Through sharing these and keeping them in mind I'm sure it does help to realise new things about life that can hopefully trickle into our subconscious minds.

The idea is not to force rules on dudeliness, like saying "fuck it" and dropping what you're doing, but to get into a natural mindset of worrying less.  There is not rote, not rules, just good sense, like true Christianity, Taoism or Buddhism.

And, speaking of Buddhism, where Buddhists try and unshackle the person from the ego, we try and unshackle them from the stress.

So, personally, I'm usually a little more disentangled from the ups and downs of everyday life than a lot of people, but I do have some ways to go.  It's all very natural until something in side me starts to gnaw and nag, and that's when it's helpful to use Dudeism to remember that I'm at my best when I'm flowing with those ups and downs, not tangled up in knots in the middle of a big stress-woven cat's cradle :)
Large chunks of my Dudeist philosophies can be found in my Dudespaper column @
http://dudespaper.com/section/columns/dude-simple/

Where are you Dude? Place your pin @ http://tinyurl.com/dudemap

Caesar dude

Love is like a butterfly it goes where it pleases and it pleases where it goes. :)

Rev. Ed C

Quote from: Caesar dude on April 11, 2012, 05:27:16 PM
So many words Rev C...so many words....sounds exhausting! ;)


I refer to your previous post that was about similar length.  ;)

ps.  We can play the "more into brevity than you are" game, but I don't see where that would get us, apart from with more words! :P
Large chunks of my Dudeist philosophies can be found in my Dudespaper column @
http://dudespaper.com/section/columns/dude-simple/

Where are you Dude? Place your pin @ http://tinyurl.com/dudemap

ManRalf

Gotta say that im thankful for the feedback. In a wholey undudely way ive been sweating bullets trying to get the idea my bachelor degree tied together, but now i've dogded a few gutterballs and my own mental carpetpissers and gotten things rolling.

Gotta ask this, ive been mulling this over for a couple of days. Is it possible to say that one becomes a dudeist through dicussions about dudeism and the dudely way of life and outlook on the world?
That interaction with other dudeists is what makes the dudeist?


cckeiser

Quote from: ManRalf on April 12, 2012, 07:35:11 AM


Gotta ask this, ive been mulling this over for a couple of days. Is it possible to say that one becomes a dudeist through dicussions about dudeism and the dudely way of life and outlook on the world?
That interaction with other dudeists is what makes the dudeist?



It just like my opinion dude, but I believe most dudes find us through searching Lebowski fests or other Lebowski related web searches. The Little Urban Achiever types get ordained, smile and move on...those with the dude already itching inside them look for a bit more and find this forum. There should be close to 200,000 ordained ministers by now I would guess, but only 5198 members of this forum....a little over half are male....most of them only lurk from time to time...and only about a dozen or so are active posters.
I believe one needs to already have a bit of the dude calling to them to join this forum.
All this forum does is give dudes a place to express their inner dudeness and help Dudeism to grow organically.
I believe most of the 5198 dude members were dude before they got here...they just heard the forum calling.
But having said that...we do get the occasional "undude" type who seem to join just to test our dudeness...or maybe they would like to be more dude but don't know how to go about it.
There is usually a dude or two on the board willing to lend them a hand and show them where the foul line is...across this line You Do Not....
Me?....I'm mostly just the janitor here...watching for spammers, taking out the trash and preforming the occasional maintenance.
My opinions carry no more water than any other dudes opinions....and we do disagree from time to time, but as dudeist we do respect the others opinion/pov. 8)


 


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Rev. Ed C

Quote from: ManRalf on April 12, 2012, 07:35:11 AM
Gotta ask this, ive been mulling this over for a couple of days. Is it possible to say that one becomes a dudeist through dicussions about dudeism and the dudely way of life and outlook on the world?
That interaction with other dudeists is what makes the dudeist?

You don't have to be in contact with others, not at all.  You'll notice that out of the 130k ordained, only about 20 hover around the forum ;)

Also, something we see time and time again from people who come here, or we meet in person, or write up testimonials on the dudespaper is: "I discovered Dudeism and realised that I'd been a Dude for years before."  Or something to that effect.

Dudeism is a way of being, and usually people are already there before they find out there's a word for it and a 'club'.  So, usually Dudeism attracts Dudes to it, rather than creating them.  But, y'know, we may not be preachy but we do have a message and it has filtered out there naturally through the online media, bumper-stickers and people just asking "That's a great attitude you have, where does THAT come from?" etc.

I think, personally, that being in contact with other Dudes helps me to reflect on the ideas and philosophies of others, and to think about factors of life for my Dudespaper articles.  Being philosophical and creative certainly bring out my own personal dudely qualities better, probably because it makes me happy, and happy = dudely, in simple terms :)
Large chunks of my Dudeist philosophies can be found in my Dudespaper column @
http://dudespaper.com/section/columns/dude-simple/

Where are you Dude? Place your pin @ http://tinyurl.com/dudemap

Caesar dude

I remember the first time I watched the movie, in bed with my ex asleep and me flicking channels and watching with subtitles.... I could tell that the dude and I had a lot in common!

I had to wait a while before I caught the film and could listen to it and laugh properly!

My attitude for many years has been "fuck it lets go bowling" and I'm very rarely pissed off because I realised a while ago that nothing actually matters that much and so we might as well enjoy our time here.

I found Dudeism because I wanted to be ordained online....the first website I found was this one.

I hung around the boards for a while and got the feel of the place then started posting and found kindred spirits some of whom have become friends (well online friends at least) as CCK says we don't always agree but we can always find middle ground and there are not too many human paraquats here.

We have an excellent Janitor and a fantastic spam killer and a few cerebral dudes who keep us thinking. :)

I tend to bounce around try and keep the humour going...I think! ;)

You'll find your niche I'm sure.

Peace dudes.
Love is like a butterfly it goes where it pleases and it pleases where it goes. :)

Caesar dude

QuoteI refer to your previous post that was about similar length. 

How very dare you point that out!  ;)
Love is like a butterfly it goes where it pleases and it pleases where it goes. :)

ManRalf

So, the word/title "dudeist" is as a flowing entity as Dudeism itself? Similar to alot of people being christian cause their parents had their tykes baptised, and in dudeism getting your ordination paper, giggle abit about it then discovering something shiny or got outside cause its sunny and then forget all about it? That is ergo the "lowest" form of dudeism inna way, or the essence of dudeism? Serious about being not too serious in a way?

It's intresting about not knowing about your inner dude until seein the movie, and then discovering it yourself. I want to link that to the teory of socialisation, that secondary socialisation can be achived even without physical interaction without others. That the interaction then is with the person and the movie playing out on the screen. Mulling over The Dude's dudely wisdom even alone in your chamber becomes apart of an internal interaction.

Thinking about The life of the Dude wakes the adepts inner Dudefant that now understands what it is.

Starting to lose my train of thought here...the core of the poodle being that even if the dudeist discovery in a way happens cause the future adept starts his inner dudeist dialog...does this sound right in any way?