The Dudeism Forum

Quote from: tiem on December 15, 2011, 10:46:10 AM
Don't believe this the one thing I've found which helps me deal with the constant bullshit of everyday life an I'm the fucking bad guy, unreal...

What you have said initially (the beginning of the thread) is fine.

The problem is you have instantly assumed he is being aggressive, which is not his intention at all.

Quote from: tiem on December 15, 2011, 09:23:46 AM
@rev ed c.... Man you are classic version of a boring Brit, straight away you go to politics and government shit,

That's fine, a bit sharp but your opinion.

Quote from: tiem on December 15, 2011, 09:23:46 AM
I AM NOT TALKING ABOUT GOVERNMENT AND POLITICS BULLSHIT!!!!!

You and I both know this is shouting. Unacceptable.

Quote from: tiem on December 15, 2011, 09:23:46 AM
I'm talking about the fun great stuff in life,

Your opinion again, and fine.

Quote from: tiem on December 15, 2011, 09:23:46 AM
why do you concern yourself with politics,

A question as to his reasoning again fine.

Quote from: tiem on December 15, 2011, 09:23:46 AM
if your so clued up on it then go be a politician!!!

Aggressive and unnecessary. This is insulting and doesn't address the point your discussing.

Quote from: tiem on December 15, 2011, 09:23:46 AM
im talking about the stuff that matters in life, fun stuff, because if you don't have have fun in life then what's the fucking point!!!!,

Again your point of view but still way too many exclamation points "!!!!" and aggressive. Why are you swearing at him when all he has done is state his opinion just as you have.

Quote from: tiem on December 15, 2011, 09:23:46 AM
America has great everything, cars, food, comedy

Yes in your opinion. They are not however objectively (scientifically) provable facts so the following is again your opinion but again aggressive and unnecessarily worded.

Quote from: tiem on December 15, 2011, 09:23:46 AM
(and don't say English comedy is funny because it's fucking shit, bland and typical English bollox),

Emotive, and again only your opinion. Just because you find something funny does not make it funny to anyone else and being arsy about it does not make your point very well at all.

Quote from: tiem on December 15, 2011, 09:23:46 AM
actors are the best in the world, USA has spirit, v8 cars cruising down highways, so much I could go on for hours, and you know it,

Fine but this is not a forum just to post your private points of view on and not have them questioned.

Quote from: tiem on December 15, 2011, 09:23:46 AM
stick your politics and government shit up your ass, oh and if I'm wrong sorry

Again aggressive unnecessary and doesn't make you any friends.

Quote from: tiem on December 15, 2011, 09:23:46 AM
but if you were defending Muslims earlier, then you don't know shit, I've live amongst Muslims my whole life (36 years), and they are hateful rude cunts, they hate anyone who is not Muslim and want to kill you, trust me you can't tell me nothing about Muslim people so don't try, you need to open your eyes to how shit England is stop lying to yourself, don't be a stuck up English Pratt,

Here I can't speak for your experience, but then neither can you speak for mine. The Muslims I know are the exact opposite.

Different areas different people. Just because you know some people who you consider "cunts" who are Muslims, does not make all Muslims "cunts". I know some that are but many that are not.

Being a truly minority religion ourselves, Religious intolerance is not something we stand for here. this is not acceptable.

Quote from: tiem on December 15, 2011, 09:23:46 AM
and no doubt your going to reply to this post with a clever worded post,

One of the points of the forum is to collect together individuals that have professed themselves to be Dudeist in point of view in any way they fell able. Be that cleverly worded posts, or heart felt simple ones. Either is acceptable, neither is frowned upon. Just because you find his "cleverly worded posts" difficult does not mean they are not appreciated by others.

Quote from: tiem on December 15, 2011, 09:23:46 AM
well I ain't got time to reply again because I'm busy living life and not concerning myself with bullshit, I will not reply to your next post, if you don't like me then don't reply to my posts,

Not the point of the forum at all. if we all didn't reply to any posts that we didn't like there would be no discussion and no moving forward with our definitions of our points of view.

Quote from: tiem on December 15, 2011, 09:23:46 AM
oh and if you are a rev (christian) then I have even less time for you,

Again religious intolerance. Not acceptable.

It is at this point I realise you may have confused the point of this site.

The vast majority of us on this forum are ordained Dudeist Priests (even I am a Reverend, but not christian).

Quote from: tiem on December 15, 2011, 09:23:46 AM
whats so fun about English culture?, fish and chips and fawltytowers???.

Finally back to the point of the discussion.

So in fact the body of your reply (the actual discussion should have looked like this:

Quote from: tiem on December 15, 2011, 09:23:46 AM
I'm talking about the fun great stuff in life, why do you concern yourself with politics, America has great everything, cars, food, comedy, actors are the best in the world, USA has spirit, v8 cars cruising down highways, so much I could go on for hours, and you know it, whats so fun about English culture?, fish and chips and fawltytowers???.

The rest was offensive, racist, rant.

Secondly, this is direct and malignant bating:

Quote from: tiem on December 15, 2011, 09:39:32 AM
Man shut up with politics shit!!!, talk about dude stuff!!, fucking hell, BORING'!!!!!!!!! Go be a politician and stop boring us with this shit!!!!!!!

Just because he disagreed with your thread you have gone out of your way to find one of his and post this.

This is not acceptable.

Finally why has he not gotten a note. Because he has not done anything apart from disagree with your point of view, he as not been abusive, aggressive, and racist.

I re-iterate what I said earlier in the post:

Quote from: meekon5 on December 15, 2011, 09:49:54 AM
If you don't want others on the forum to express their (differing) opinions on a subject don't start a thread on it.

If you start a thread don't be shouting at other members eg:

Quote from: tiem on December 15, 2011, 09:23:46 AM
...I AM NOT TALKING ABOUT GOVERNMENT AND POLITICS BULLSHIT!!!!!...

Just because they don't agree with you.

Debate and argument are a skill learnt through practice and not shouting at each other.

You test your opinion by stating it and seeing how well you can argue against it's detractors.

If they are unable to convince you that you are wrong then your opinion is (iyho) sound and true.

There are times when one has to agree to differ (which in itself is fine).

This forum is not about point scoring and shouting each other down.

Also the question that occurs to me is if as you say you want to live in the US, why don't you?

I'm sorry tiem but I think you have confused this forum as to what it is really about. this is not a "The big Lebowski" fan forum this is a serious religious discussion group.

Digital Buddha, Meekon or Forum Dude and all dudes, I am not racist, I am sorry for offending anyone if I have, DB, M, or FD please delete my account, many thanks for my time here, goodbye.

Quote from: tiem on December 15, 2011, 12:26:56 PM
Digital Buddha, Meekon or Forum Dude and all dudes, I am not racist, I am sorry for offending anyone if I have, DB, M, or FD please delete my account, many thanks for my time here, goodbye.

tiem none of us are throwing you out.

You asked why I had said we had a problem with your post, I gave you the answer.

You are welcome to stay and continue to comment.

Just please try to stop and think before you get too excited.

It has happened to all of us, I have posted myself where I believed someone was taking the piss but they were not.

Rev Ed was only expressing an opinion, and you handed him his own gonads for no apparent reason.

think of the place as a quiet drinking bar, like in "Cheers".

How would people have been treated if they walked in on their first week drinking there and started shouting at people for saying I don't think your right with that opinion?

tiem requested his account be removed, even after I assured him he could stay if he wanted to.

I told him he was welcome to come back if he felt the need.

I have removed his account but not his posts.

Peace tiem, hope you find what you are looking for.

thanks for taking care of that meekon.

by the way, sorry for posting tiem's location. i only meant to prove that it was not thinkingdude. but i guess that i should just have said he was posting from outside the US. or maybe not even that. anyway, sorry. my bad. i won't do that again.

Is it just my imagination, or does it seem that every time the Rev Ed C starts posting someone else gets pissed off and leaves?
Working your magic again I see Rev Ed C!

ha ha. yes. he's so charming that when he disagrees with people, it breaks their hearts and they go crazy with grief.

Well crazy anyway!
So I been "away" for a little while...did I miss anything?

Rev Ed C is a mover and shaker! A good man, and thorough.

Quote from: cckeiser on December 15, 2011, 07:28:58 PM
Well crazy anyway!
So I been "away" for a little while...did I miss anything?

Just the usual dude-like madness.

Wow - what a dude that tiem guy was. Total reactionary. Hopefully his computer blows up before he wreaks more havoc! 

Quote from: Hominid on December 15, 2011, 08:30:17 PM
Wow - what a dude that tiem guy was. Total reactionary. Hopefully his computer blows up before he wreaks more havoc!  

I think he has been here before bowling on another lane. No worries, life goes on, man.

What was most alarming was where he turned out to be posting from... he might be my noisy neighbour from downstairs, or maybe a disgruntled regular in Meekon's local pub.  Something about our local area must a) attract Dudes and b) really be a strain on people's sanity

But thanks for the general wave of support, fellas, it's nice to know that not everyone sees an ogre's head on my shoulders

(we all know it's a dwarven head on a troll's body)

Quote from: Rev. Ed C on December 16, 2011, 04:20:33 AM
What was most alarming was where he turned out to be posting from... he might be my noisy neighbour from downstairs, or maybe a disgruntled regular in Meekon's local pub.  Something about our local area must a) attract Dudes and b) really be a strain on people's sanity

But thanks for the general wave of support, fellas, it's nice to know that not everyone sees an ogre's head on my shoulders

(we all know it's a dwarven head on a troll's body)

Great gobs of gronski, you guys all drink together? HA!

Quote from: DigitalBuddha on December 16, 2011, 05:02:39 AM
Great gobs of gronski, you guys all drink together? HA!

That's the scary thing.  You think someone's probably hundreds or miles away, and then it's revealed he's in the came county as you... He might have been the guy sitting opposite me in the office for all I know

As for actually drinking together... Meekon, Klaus, Kiteboysi and I all need to brave the cold for that one.  And apparently, it's impossible to have fun in this country, so maybe we shouldn't bother