Dudeist baptisms?

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cakebelly

 ;D Right on, Dudes - erm . .yeah, DB and Meekon said it all, really . . (whistling quietly to myself as I shuffle off stage left)

cckeiser

These guys seem to fit right in there too.
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DigitalBuddha

Quote from: meekon5 on September 29, 2010, 07:38:42 AM
Quote from: digitalbuddha on September 29, 2010, 01:23:49 AM
Quote from: cckeiser on September 28, 2010, 11:11:45 PM
Quote from: digitalbuddha on September 28, 2010, 11:08:10 PM
Not too sure about this whole "baptism" thing going on. A dude is a dude because a dude decides to live the life of a dude, not because he gets his ass dunked in a tub of water by some other dude.

Sparks of too much dead religion and useless religious ritual.

Dudeism is simple; live like a dude. Fuck all that other undude ceremony stuff and religious trappings.

That's just like my opinion man.

Testify Brother...Testify!
A dude is as a dude does.

Fucking eh, man. The digitalbuddha is getting a tad worried about the whole religious thing going on. It seems to me, after a few oat sodas don't you know, that all of the calls for this or that, organization, ritual, etc. will turn Dudeism into just another burdensome religion with rules, a status quo, undude arguing and debate, power struggles to be "top dude," and the like.

I would dig seeing dudeism remain at the first draft and not the comprised second draft. Its like Lenin said; "you look for the person who benefits..." Ahh, you know what I'm saying. Who will benefit from all of this dude religion stuff?

Before long we will have this or that "denomination" of dudeism with each dude sect fighting against the other claiming that they represent "real dudeism" and all others are fake wanna bees.

A dude should think for him or herself. Lets not forget, let's NOT forget, that dudeism began as a simple idea...abide.

Jesus, can't dig that organized shit, man. Organized religion.....VERY UNDude!

sorry for quoting almost the entire thread.

Glad to hear DB making these comments.

Lets be honest, some dudes need ritual (I myself can't get comfortable on the sofa until I've turned round twice, possibly a throw back to a past life where I'm stepping down reeds to make a nest), if you feel ritual is important go for it, but I do agree with DB let's not prescribe ritual.

An ex-Buddhist friend of Klaus and myself tells the story of why he left his particular Buddhist group. It appears the group was reduced to arguing over whether the door to where the "sacred Texts" were kept was open or closed if it was partially open or partially closed. Their reliance on ritual was so deep they couldn't even agree on the ritual.

We don't want to get into this shite the Pharasee's got into where you can't carry a handkerchief on the Sabbat because that's work, but if you wear it round your waist it then becomes a belt that is an item of clothing.

As an Erisian Pagan (Fnord) as well I only join disorganised religions.

And will continue to fight against the christianisation of Dudeism (nothing against Dudeist Christians, thats your thing man, but not for me).

I'm quite content to see all the little dudeists doing there own rituals in their own way in their own place as long as it's made clear these are not essential and belong to the individual Dudeist.

What next we'll be cutting bits off ourselves to prove that we are the true chosen Dudeists?

A worthy fucking pursuit, meekon5, disorganised religions. Sounds very dude like.

DigitalBuddha

Quote from: cakebelly on September 29, 2010, 02:00:47 PM
;D Right on, Dudes - erm . .yeah, DB and Meekon said it all, really . . (whistling quietly to myself as I shuffle off stage left)


cakebelly dude, that signature image is way fucking cool. I dig your style, mang. Almost gave me a flashback.

DigitalBuddha

Quote from: cckeiser on September 29, 2010, 10:38:57 PM
These guys seem to fit right in there too.
The Church of the Apathetic Agnostic
"We don't know and we don't care"

http://www.apatheticagnostic.org/

"We don't know and we don't care" .....fuck me, now THAT is the meaning of slacking! Think I'll meditate on that one.

Rev. Ed C

Fussing about rituals, to me, is tantamount to sweating the small stuff.  I've always taken a work ethic of "get it done the best way by the best means possible."  If I stuck to the rules and regulations I'd never get anything done, apart from a few bungled jobs that left a bunch of people dissatisfied (which is also the reason I threw out the Kama Sutra!!! ;)).

At the end of the day, whether you take a man down to a river, dress him up in white and dunk him in at the deep end with a long ambling speech lifted from some dusty old book, or you dip your fingers in some water, flick the drops at him and say "bless you my son", it's the same result, you're baptised.  The act of Baptism is a symbol of washing away sins and burdons and whathaveyou, and symbolistic ritualism isn't necessary for us.  We do what we want to make us happy, and that's our aim.

Like I think I might almost remember saying at the start of this thread the other month but can't be bothered to go back to and check on, if it means something to you and it pleases you, do it.  If not, fuck it, take the easy option, or forget it entirely.  If we start going around making a bunch of holy days and rituals we'll just work up unnecessary fuss all the time, and for what?  A joke?  Yeah, I mean, a Lebowikist parody of Hanukkah sounds like it might be fun, once, but if we start writing it down it gets laboured.

I think the whole thing works fine now and we all have freedom to do what we want, be it stage a baptism for a good party and a special memory, or to get together once a year as a good excuse masking as a holy day.  As soon as we start getting a callander full of holy days and a book on "how to..." about weddings and baptisms and all sorts of stuff we'll be selling out on the core ideal of Dudeism... to relax and be happy.
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meekon5

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Quote from: digitalbuddha on September 30, 2010, 01:32:50 AM
Quote from: cakebelly on September 29, 2010, 02:00:47 PM
;D Right on, Dudes - erm . .yeah, DB and Meekon said it all, really . . (whistling quietly to myself as I shuffle off stage left)

cakebelly dude, that signature image is way fucking cool. I dig your style, mang. Almost gave me a flashback.


I thought it was a flashback.

"I can see people in there man!"

Though I did prefer the one where everyone was less obvious (not surrounded by the bubbles more ethereal.
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brewdude2112

I know, like this thread is old man, but I had a thought about ritual.  I dig it and have a dudism that I am scheduled to preform on New Years.  Going to try and make sure the tyke doesn't lose a toe.  Am going to talk about hope, which as we all know comes in the form of a creedence tape, if only I can find mine.  Will share with the other dudes what this dude finds. 

cckeiser

Quote from: brewdude2112 on December 19, 2012, 07:22:26 AM
I know, like this thread is old man, but I had a thought about ritual.  I dig it and have a dudism that I am scheduled to preform on New Years.  Going to try and make sure the tyke doesn't lose a toe.  Am going to talk about hope, which as we all know comes in the form of a creedence tape, if only I can find mine.  Will share with the other dudes what this dude finds. 
Welcome dude!
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brewdude2112

Creedence tape here,  Achiever certificate printed.  The little dudette will become more abideable tonight.  A life of achievement, hope for the creedence tape, and the exhausting nature of nhilism will all be a part of this ritual, I think,  I am not really making any notes, in dudeist fashion, mostly just, like, you know, hoping to roll inspired rocks

cckeiser

Quote from: brewdude2112 on December 31, 2012, 12:35:32 PM
Creedence tape here,  Achiever certificate printed.  The little dudette will become more abideable tonight.  A life of achievement, hope for the creedence tape, and the exhausting nature of nhilism will all be a part of this ritual, I think,  I am not really making any notes, in dudeist fashion, mostly just, like, you know, hoping to roll inspired rocks

Can you get it in pictures dude? That would be great. 8)
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DigitalBuddha


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I believe I can tell you where to go.

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