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Dudeist Religion => Under the Influences => Taoism => Topic started by: Laughing Dude on August 29, 2014, 08:47:46 AM

Title: New shit has come to light! Anybody read "Faith in mind?"
Post by: Laughing Dude on August 29, 2014, 08:47:46 AM
http://www.taoism.net/theway/faith.htm (http://www.taoism.net/theway/faith.htm)

So this is a translation and commentary on Xinxin Ming, or "Faith in mind," a poem attributed to the Third Chinese Chan (Zen) Patriarch Jianzhi Sengcan. What makes it so durned interesting is that it's sort of a hybrid of Taoism and Zen Buddhism. Far fucking out man. Something I think we all can dance to.

According to Wikipedia: " he poem professes the need to take pleasant and unpleasant life experiences with a sense of equanimity. Broadly speaking, the Xinxin Ming deals with the principles and practice of non-duality, that is, with the application of nonduality and the results of its practice." Is that not exactly what Abiding is all about? Are we gunna split hairs here? If the Tao te Ching introduced us to the Tao, this reads like a fucking manual to bring the Tao into your everyday thoughts.

The commentary on verses really ties the whole poem together:
"Neither love nor hate,
And you will clearly understand.


Acting or reacting according to the two basic emotions of love and hate is the same as treating human beings like products in a shopping mall. It is a form of picking and choosing. You become a consumer of human beings, and your relationships turn into products that gratify your needs, and that are dumped when they have lost their usefulness, or bore you, or do not fit your new image.

Some husbands treat their wives that way. They would discard their old wife for a newer model. Emancipation to some women mean that they can now do the same to their husbands. All kinds of psychological terminology are used to explain their consumerism: "mid-life crisis", "death fear", etc. Do you want to know the truth? Ask their discarded children. They know what it really is. You are never too young to understand desertion.

The passage clearly states you should not allow love to interfere if you want to understand. This is almost impossible with close friends or family. It is more possible to love and hate them simultaneously than to neither love nor hate them. That is probably why parents have such a hard time understanding their children, and children develop such warped ideas about their parents.

This passage has often been misunderstood. It does not say you should not love. It actually shows you how. You can only truly understand your children, or your friends, or any living creature for that matter, if you do not allow such emotions as love or hate to interfere. Only if you really understand, will you truly love - and love here is seen as real support and not a cheap emotion."

Whatcha think Dudes?
Title: Re: New shit has come to light! Anybody read "Faith in mind?"
Post by: The Daryl on August 29, 2014, 05:39:57 PM
That's fuckin interesting, man. Thanks for the link will definitely give it a read through!
Title: Re: New shit has come to light! Anybody read "Faith in mind?"
Post by: UngKwan on September 18, 2014, 10:41:41 AM
As a Dudeist who is also a Zen practitioner, Faith in Mind has been a big influence on me. Another version is available here:

terebess.hu/english/hsin3.html
Title: Re: New shit has come to light! Anybody read "Faith in mind?"
Post by: DigitalBuddha on September 19, 2014, 03:42:35 AM
As a Dudeist who is also a Zen practitioner, Faith in Mind has been a big influence on me. Another version is available here:

terebess.hu/english/hsin3.html

Yo, UngKwan dude, a dudely welcome to our beach community and laid back gathering. Good to see you here. Grab a place on the rug and abide, mang. Bars' over there.
Title: Re: New shit has come to light! Anybody read "Faith in mind?"
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Title: Re: New shit has come to light! Anybody read "Faith in mind?"
Post by: DigitalBuddha on September 19, 2014, 08:29:10 PM
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