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Title: Dudeism after Earth
Post by: DigitalBuddha on October 03, 2013, 04:10:25 AM
Scientist Shows What Happens To 'Soul' After Death

Is there a way to measure consciousness and where it comes from? If so, scientists believe it may be possible to follow the tracks of souls into the afterlife.

Dr. Hameroff, a Professor Emeritus at the Departments of Anesthesiology and Psychology, explained in a video from Through the Wormhole, Consciousness, or its immediate precursor proto-consciousness, has been in the universe all along, perhaps from the Big Bang.

Hameroff along with Roger Penrose, mathematician and physicist, proposed a theory of consciousness derived from the Orch-OR (orchestrated objective reduction). The theory says consciousness is derived from microtubules within brain cells (neurons) which contain quantum processing.

According to Hameroff, if consciousness is a quantum process it may solve the mystery of what happens in near-death experiences.

New shit has come to light - (

Title: Re: Dudeism after Earth
Post by: cckeiser on October 03, 2013, 04:15:38 PM
Should I bother? I think few here will understand it, and fewer still would give a fuck. But since the topic is here and I did write this back around the turn of the century I'll post it here for whatever you dudes wish to make of it.
This is going to be a copy and paste from WordPerfect so there's going to be a lot of ? where other shit should be....I think you all will be able to figure it out.

            The Sinigularity
So what is The Singularity, and how do we know it "exists"?

We first start with the only thing we can be certain of: We Exist!
In order for anything at all to exist, 'something' must have always existed. The reason is...we cannot have a true Nothingness that evolves into Somethingness unless there is a 'something' to disturb Nothingness into evolving. A true Nothingness would be completely satisfied, and being devoid of any and all properties is completely beyond entropy or perturbation ( anxiety ).
The Null Set (Empty Set) is the most stable of all probabilities.

Since we know we exist, logically it must follow, the Null Set; Nothingness cannot have ever been the state. We cannot get 'something' from 'nothing' because there is no-thing in nothing to begin with, and thus there is no-thing to evolve into 'something.'
For anything at all to exist, 'something' must have always existed!

What is that "Something"?

Since we exist, Where do we exist, or What do we exist in?
We can start by saying we exist on this planet, in this solar system, this galaxy, and in this Universe.
But what does the Universe exist in?

Sooner or latter we must arrive at the First Container that contains everything else, but that is not itself contained in or by anything else.

If the First Container is not 'contained,' it has no boundaries. No Boundaries means not only is it Unbound, but it has no beginning and no ending. Therefore, it must be Infinite, Unbound, and Eternal. If it is Infinite, Unbound and Eternal, it must be The Singularity.
Not just 'a' singularity, it must be "The" Singularity. Since it is Infinite there can not be any other singularities. The Singularity must be Singular in its existence. All other so called singularities are only anomalies that exist within The Singularity.

An Infinite Unbound and Eternal Singularity must then be the answer to First Cause, and because The Singularity is 'Something' it answers the Fundamental Question why is there 'Something' and not 'Nothing'! Because if Nothingness had ever been the case, by its very unnature, Nothingness would always be the case.

I must point out the absence of e=mc^2 energy that makes up our Universe is not 'Nothingness.' A true Nothingness has no dimensions. Quantum Physics tells us all our energy emanates from the UnReality of the Quantum Universe. So if all our e=mc^2 energy reverted back into metaphysical quantum energy, there would be 'No-Physical-Thing' in our Universe, but it would not be absolute Nothingness. The Singularity would still exist.

But now we run into a slight problem. An Infinite, Unbound, and Eternal Singularity is an Infinity. An Infinity cannot 'exist' as an "Is"! It has no beginning and no ending, and it is unbound, therefore is does not, and cannot exist as a complete Whole. It is condemned to an eternal state of Potential existence.
It is this Potential existence that give us a clue as to the fundamental properties of what The Singularity is. It is Potential, and Potential is a yet to be realized Reality.

Where does this Potential come from?

All we can know about The Singularity is what we perceive to be "in it," but because it is a Singularity, no-thing can be "in" it, all things must be "of" it. There cannot be anything that is not The Singularity, so Everything 'is' The Singularity.
Since the only thing we can be certain of is We Exist, then We do not exist in The Singularity, we are not a part of The Singularity. We are The Singularity.
And since we exist as The Singularity anything we can ascribe to ourselves must by default be an attribute of The Singularity.
The only thing we know for certain is we Think; we are conscious. Consciousness must then be an attribute of The Singularity.
 If we do not try to complicate anything more than necessary, and avoid making unnecessary assumptions, then We Exist and Consciousness as The Singularity are all that is necessary. Anything we attempt to add is only an unnecessary complication. The Singularity is composed of Consciousness, and We are the Consciousness of The Singularity.

And what is Consciousness?
Consciousness is Mind, it is Thinking, it is Thought itself; which metaphysically fulfills the quality of Infinite and Unbound Potential.
Thoughts are infinite and unbound, and portends what is yet to be.

What then becomes of Reality and Nothingness within The Singularity of Consciousness?
 First of all there are no regions within The Singularity. The Singularity is consciousness and does not exist as an object in our four dimensional Universe. It is purely metaphysical and devoid of spacetime dimensions. It has no height, width, or depth as we would envision a finite object to have. Metaphysically it is no more tangible, and has no more physical dimensions than a Thought.
Within our thoughts we can envision a four 'dimensional' object such as a box. We can envision a box 3 feet long, two feet high, and one foot wide. If we give it a lid we can envision the dimension of time by opening and closing that lid. We can envision volume, by placing 'objects' into it.
That box now exists as a four dimensional object in a zero physical dimensional illusion. That box exists in our thoughts, which have infinite degrees of metaphysical freedom, but does not actually exist in four spacetime dimensions. Those spacetime dimensions are part of the manifestation, and do not actually exist. They exist in our minds only.
Now let us completely eradicate the box from our minds so that it no longer exists. In fact let us cleanse our minds of everything. What is left is No-Thing, but not Nothing, our minds still exist. We can envision a state of Nothingness, but that concept of Nothingness can only exist as a concept in our thoughts; our thoughts still exist.
Since The Singularity is infinite and unbound there are no boundaries outside. It is not an object with physical dimensions so there are no areas or zones to border off and create a boundary between itself and a void of Nothingness, so it cannot have boundaries inside.
In order for there to be a true Nothingness there can be no Thought, or consciousness to carry that thought, and if there is no consciousness, there is no Singularity.
If there are no boundaries what separates one mind from another? Without a separator there would be no Individuality of thought or Ego or mind. There would only be the one mind of Solipsism, and all minds would have but a single thought. All minds would think alike.
We, as Individuals, know this is not the case. There are too many points of view on just about every subject and belief that it is obvious we do not think alike; we do not think with a single mind.
If there was but one single mind there would be but one perspective and no contention between beliefs. There would be but one mind, one thought and one point of view. Obviously there is not.
Individually we each possess our own mind and view Reality from our own unique perspective. We do not share a single mind, but we share the single consciousness of The Singularity. Together, our entangled minds create that shared consciousness of The Singularity. Together we are The Singularity.
What becomes of "Nothingness"?.

If there is only the collective consciousness of The Singularity, and The Singularity is a metaphysical entity with no dimensions and no boundaries either within or without, how can there be individual minds?
The answer is in the Perspective.
An Infinite and Unbound Singularity would require infinite and unbound degrees of freedom. Each individual mind represents an infinite degree of freedom separated by Nothing but its own Perspective. Just as there is Nothing that separates one spatial dimension from the other but the perspective view. The height, weight, and depth of our spatial dimensions are interchangeable, and are only defined by our current point of view. Rotate them by 90 degrees in any direction and one becomes the other. They are each a different degree of freedom, but there is nothing that separates one from the other but our perspective. Perspective is the Nothingness that separates one degree of freedom from another. Perspective is the Nothingness; the degree of freedom, that separates one mind from another.
Consciousness is Information.

The collective consciousness of The Singularity is thus the Information generated by the different perspectives of individual entangled minds. Consciousness is the Information generated by the unique perspective of each individual mind and shared in the collective consciousness of The Singularity. Reality is Information selected, refined and processed by the Observer from its unique perspective, but that Information is generated by the collective minds of The Singularity.         
            Skeptical Idealism 2.0
The truth is, we can never know what The Truth is!
If we begin with No-Thingness, then No-Thingness is all we can ever have.
The Empty or Null Set is completely satisfied and beyond entropy or evolution.
It is an impossibility for No-thingness to evolve into Thingness.
We cannot get Something from Nothing!
Since this is the case, where does all this Thingness come from?
It doesn’t.
There is no Thingness, there is only the Illusion of Thingness.
We start with Quantum Idealism; the idealist concepts of the Copenhagen Interpretation of Quantum Mechanics which maintains everything is an illusion and there in no-thing physical at all, which is different than the Realist/Materialist interpretation of quantum mechanics followed by Super String Theorist still looking for a fundamental vibration to explain the Universe.
The problem with Super String theory is they still need to answer the hard question of where did all those vibrations come from? What started Nothingness to vibrate?
What naturally follows Quantum Idealism then is the “New Age” interpretation of the Copenhagen Interpretation which maintains the essence of all Reality is pure Consciousness.
Consciousness is the “Emptiness at the heart of all matter”!
If we then follow that concept to it’s logical conclusion we end up with Skeptical Idealism.
Skeptical Idealism is pure Idealism with a good dose of Skepticism thrown in.
The quantum universe is just as much an illusion as everything else. It is just another choice of something to believe in; something we use to create the illusion that we can know anything at all.
Skeptical Idealism maintains no one can ever really know anything at all beyond their own internal manifestations. No one can ever know with any certainty what they themselves perceive has any independent existence, or any truth, beyond their own perceptions.
We believe what we perceive, but we only perceive what we believe!
All we can ever really know are the illusion we create in our own minds.
And since pure Consciousness is infinite and has no boundaries, our choice of illusions are infinite and have no boundaries.
For every mind there is a different illusion. Some are very very close, but no two are exactly the same.
There really are no answers at all, there are only choices.
Everyone of us exists in our own illusions of what we believe Reality is, but since Consciousness is infinite and unbound, so are the illusions.
For every mind there is a different illusion of Reality.
And since all is illusion, every illusion is just as true and just as good as any other illusion.
It may not be to you, but it is to someone.
"In the province of the mind, what the mind believes to be true,
either is true or becomes true within certain limits to be found
experientially and experimentally. These limits are further beliefs to
be transcended. In the mind there are no limits." - John Lilly
Once we can truly comprehend that The Singularity of Consciousness is not
only Infinite but also Unbound then there are no limits.
All is Infinite and Unbound!
And since all is infinite and unbound there really are no answers; only
Truth is whatever we each choose to believe it is.
It is our egos that prevents us from admitting that the truth we ourselves
perceive is only our truth and not just one of infinite truths that may not be
true to anyone else.
Since I really believe that is true, than I must admit to myself, that my belief in Skeptical Idealism is also just another illusion also.
Since all is illusion we can not pick and choose and say what someone else believes in is an illusion, but what I believe in is not. All is Illusion, even what I myself believe!
If that sounds like insanity to you, I fully agree. It is insanity, which goes a long way in explaining just about everything we need to know about the mind, life, the Universe and everything.
From the perspective of Skeptical Idealism we are all insane!
No one ever promised Reality must be sane, to assume so, in spite of all evidence to the contrary, is madness.
“When we remember we are all mad, the mysteries disappear and life stands explained.”
Samuel Langhorne Clemens
“I do not suffer from insanity. I enjoy every minute of it!” – Elmer Fudd
Revised on 12/20/04, Skeptical Idealism added on May 9, 2009

Title: Re: Dudeism after Earth
Post by: cckeiser on October 03, 2013, 04:32:26 PM
“I was saying in the last post that contrary to this proposition is the assumption held by mechanical science that the ground state of the universe is difference. This assumption is not always made explicit by scientists. I accept that differences are vital to explicit expressions, measurements computations, reasoning and contrasts, but they are not the ground state of the universe. Put another way, the initial conditions of any motion can not be differences, which are always made manifest by computations and expressions of perceptions. Each of these differential features is a secondary attributes of consciousness - maps of other non-symbolic territories. The primary territory of the universe is the singularity of consciousness and what is singular is not differential. Thus this singularity which has simultaneity cannot be differentially mapped because the differences of mapping are always secondary to the primary state. In other words, the primary state of the universe cannot be expressed, measured or computed but exists as implicit meaning within a singular universal framework with an all-at-once-the same-ness (simultaneity) about it. The primary singularity of consciousness is therefore prior to the differentials of time and space for these are always secondary attributes of consciousness.” - andrew lohrey
Title: Re: Dudeism after Earth
Post by: DigitalBuddha on October 04, 2013, 09:38:40 AM
Awesome flashback, Cc Dude!
Title: Re: Dudeism after Earth
Post by: cckeiser on October 06, 2013, 09:18:41 PM
I think Meekon 5 used to like this kind of stuff, but I think he may have seen this one before. 8)
Title: Re: Dudeism after Earth
Post by: High Priest Allen on October 09, 2013, 12:01:07 AM
CC, you have just blown my mind.
Title: Re: Dudeism after Earth
Post by: cckeiser on October 09, 2013, 12:25:22 AM
CC, you have just blown my mind.
Oops! Sorry about that dude. ;D

And welcome to our beach party. The bar is over there! 8)
Title: Re: Dudeism after Earth
Post by: DigitalBuddha on October 09, 2013, 08:16:31 AM
CC, you have just blown my mind.

High Priest Allen dude, welcome to dude central, mang. Nice to have you here. Burn a J if ya have a J, dude.
Title: Re: Dudeism after Earth
Post by: High Priest Allen on October 10, 2013, 03:40:40 AM
CC, you have just blown my mind.

High Priest Allen dude, welcome to dude central, mang. Nice to have you here. Burn a J if ya have a J, dude.

Way ahead of you on that. Thanks for the warm welcome, everyone. Abide.
Title: Re: Dudeism after Earth
Post by: DigitalBuddha on October 10, 2013, 09:51:34 AM
CC, you have just blown my mind.

High Priest Allen dude, welcome to dude central, mang. Nice to have you here. Burn a J if ya have a J, dude.

Way ahead of you on that. Thanks for the warm welcome, everyone. Abide.

Title: Re: Dudeism after Earth
Post by: dudekickinit on January 16, 2022, 06:08:34 PM
I like to think of it that The Dude is everywhere taking er easy. We’re all the dude in these bodies, and after this body, we’ll keep on takin er easy as the dude before we take er easy again in a new form to keep on takin er easy. Happy to welcome thoughts on that