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Title: Dudeism
Post by: cckeiser on August 30, 2011, 04:58:44 PM
several things have been chasing themselves around my head this last week, in regards to where this is all going. i knew that dudeism was a philosophy and a lifestyle, but i hadn't really grasped the "religion" aspect... or maybe i had just ignored it, i don't know. what i have realized though, with all the fuss that ensued this week, is that coining this movement as a "religion", for me, presents some problems.

GOOS, I was thinking over your comment in the quote above and in particular where you say "i knew that dudeism was a philosophy and a lifestyle, but i hadn't really grasped the "religion" aspect..." and it sparked me to offer a few comments and a few things that are just like my opinion, man..........

If Dudeism was a religion I would bail on it faster than lightening; dead religion, or religion that is stiff, rigid and stinking with rules and regulations is not my bag either. All that type of religion does is create slaves to other people's control. We certainly have enough of that in the world to last for millennial!

Dudeism, on the other hand, strikes me as a possible foundation in a person's life to help them develop their own path with perhaps the aid of some concepts, perhaps some guidance, maybe some dude like experiences of others (the dudely group mind) and what is becoming a wealth of material available for a person to use while walking their own path.

Dudeism, IMHO, could be seen as providing quality and worthy building materials for a person to avail themselves of used to construct a unique reality, life style and path, etc. different from others who embrace dudeism. By doing so they add to the ever growing body of people who are molding and creating a dynamic fluid philosophy of life. If you think about it, how could it be any other way? We are all unique and no matter how hard we try, we will end up being unique dudeists.

I think that dudeism's job (one job at least) is to help each person be what they can be, help each person find their own path as a dude and by doing so enrich the ever growing reality of dudeism. In other words, dudeism is a work in progress being built by everyone who joins in and adds their uniqueness.

Each time a new person jumps in the dudeism hot tub the celebration is enhanced and changed. As dudeists, we definitely need to embrace change or dudeism will soon be just another dead religion unable to relate to the needs of people and the world around it.

If you will notice, when the major religions of the world began (most of them) they were alive, growing, dealing with birth pains and the reality of the world around them. But, as soon as they became stiff, rigid, authoritarian AND GOD FORBID "complete," that is to say no new concepts permitted, they began to solidify into a set code of beliefs, creeds and rules and in some cases religious battles between sects; they died and retreated behind walls barricading themselves and their captives behind those walls for safety.

Dudeism, on the other hand, should help people grow, not force them into a set of ideas that just don't fit their own personal path.

If every dude is the same, then we are boring, dead and just another mindless religion. But, if dudeism embraces all of its people and all that they are, then we will be wiser, stronger (strong in the sense of really having something to offer the world, not strength as seen in money rich religious organizations), infinitely more creative and much much deeper! Not to mention, enjoyable!

I think that dudeism should merely provide a solid but ever growing basic foundation for each person to build on. If that is done, dudeism will remain relative, energetic and alive to people who embrace it, and capable of offering help in living the life!

All, of course, IMHO.




Thankee DigitalBuddha...I'm nailing this to the door! 8)

Title: Re: Dudeism
Post by: Zen Dog on August 30, 2011, 10:10:22 PM
To misquote Brian,"Fuck off and do your own thing".
"How should we fuck off and do our own thing Lord?".
I can get you dogma.Hell, I can get you dogma by 3 o'clock this afternoon.
In the meantime, just abide.
Take it easy, I'll catch you further on down the trail.Dude
Title: Re: Dudeism
Post by: Zen Dog on August 30, 2011, 10:20:43 PM
Do you think Brian may have been the original Dude.
Just thinking about it,there were quite a few similarities.
He was involved with a Special Lady,there were quite a lot of Nihilists and he lived in an uptight Fascist state.
And,he was an innocent victim of circumstance.Pity there was no bowling though.
Title: Re: Dudeism
Post by: Andrea Da Fino on August 31, 2011, 03:07:27 AM
I dig that post of DB, well usually every post as he is a pretty righteous and deep thinker dude, but I don't understand, and this could be the right thread, what's the problem with the word religion. I mean, religion means an organized belief, or faith, or worldview (this is us) so I'd like to finally understand what's wrong with Dudeism being a religion. Sorry dudes, probably it's my fault.  :(
Title: Re: Dudeism
Post by: Zen Dog on August 31, 2011, 07:36:36 PM
DB's good.But shit!Don't he draw breath?
Belief systems equal religion.Religion has dogma.Dogma is rules and regs plus a story.
Our story is The Big Lebowski.Our rules and regs are Abide and Take It Easy Dudes.
We even have a sacrement for fucks sake.White Russians and In and Out Burgers.
Dudes,just go bowling and............................................
Title: Re: Dudeism
Post by: hannahdude on August 31, 2011, 08:12:21 PM
But you can still be a thurrah dude if you are sober and vegetarian.
All i can contribute is that there are many TOE's out there and Dudeism is the one that actually fits ME. I came , I watched, I saw, I was and AM a Dude.
Thinking about it too hard isnt troublesome for me, I fried my intellect out years ago with substances and yeshivas, authority figures and people who lacked the ability to have a humble enjoyment of their own human limitations. Pema Chodron got me started in 'The Wisdom Of No Escape' and TBL is the crowning glory(angels begin to sing in my head) of all that I, as a Dude CAN be, but choose not to bother with cause it's just too much effort.
Fuck it and abiding by instinct and kindess is working out pretty well for me.
Title: Re: Dudeism
Post by: Zen Dog on August 31, 2011, 08:18:39 PM
Aaaah.Yes.Take 'er real easy there Dude.
Title: Re: Dudeism
Post by: Andrea Da Fino on September 01, 2011, 02:23:01 AM
DB's good.But shit!Don't he draw breath?
Belief systems equal religion.Religion has dogma.Dogma is rules and regs plus a story.
Our story is The Big Lebowski.Our rules and regs are Abide and Take It Easy Dudes.
We even have a sacrement for fucks sake.White Russians and In and Out Burgers.
Dudes,just go bowling and............................................

Right fellow Rev., but every religion is built on those who follow it and those who created it. It is not the word religion which should make people uncomfortable. If a nihilist writes a holy text then probably mostly nihilists will follow his words; the same goes for an humanizer or a cleft asshole. In this case similar attract similar so the people is the problem, not the word.
But we can have good men within bad religions and bad men within good religions. It goes down to human nature but usually if someone isn't fit for a particular religion he just leave and finds something else. And  if he lives in one of those reactionaries countries where uptight religions deal with every aspect of life then they leave the country. Not everyone who comes to Italy from nearby countries arrives because is searching a job, a lot come to have more freedom of thought.

People makes a religion, it's not the religion which makes people. If I invent a religion which has no appeal to anyone and everyone tells me fuck it let's go bowling then this religion dies, am I wrong? If it remains alive is because people agrees with me and my point of view.

Btw religion has a kind of legal recognition and protection which spiritual practice or spiritual philosophy do not, and this is another aspect to be taken into account.

IMHO obviously.
Title: Re: Dudeism
Post by: Andrea Da Fino on September 01, 2011, 02:25:59 AM
"But you can still be a thurrah dude if you are sober and vegetarian."

Mark it 8 hannahdude.
Title: Re: Dudeism
Post by: Rev. Ed C on September 01, 2011, 07:07:27 AM
"But you can still be a thurrah dude if you are sober and vegetarian."

Mark it 8 hannahdude.

Too true, Hannah.  In fact, it's my life-long vegetarianism and continued abstinance from meat that I think actually make me more dudely.

My take is: "you can east meat and still be a dude" not the other way around ;)

That statement of yours really hits the nail on the head about not getting too narrow in our vision of how any dude should live.  Kudos!
Title: Re: Dudeism
Post by: Rev. Gary (revgms) on September 01, 2011, 10:25:49 AM
No! Everyone must adhere to this commandment:

Don't command people to adhere to commandments.




;)
Title: Re: Dudeism
Post by: Andrea Da Fino on September 01, 2011, 01:42:28 PM
No! Everyone must adhere to this commandment:

Don't command people to adhere to commandments.




;)

Just ask? Without a bowling ball in the other hand obviously.
Title: Re: Dudeism
Post by: Andrea Da Fino on September 01, 2011, 01:46:11 PM
I eat almost everything but maintain my inner dudeliness drinking beer, this way I've the excuse to drink a lot of beer. When I can't afford beer I go with wine, but it's always my second choice. A fresh beer in a cold day and you can even see Dudervana with all those chicks dressed like vikings.
Title: Re: Dudeism
Post by: hannahdude on September 01, 2011, 04:19:00 PM
i want to see your visions of 'dudervana, with those chicks dressed like vikings'.... no wait, i want to BE one of those golden viking amazon women, and that aint happening. i realized tues at the blu-ray dealy in l.a. that i look way more like jeff dowd than any of the women there! oh well! this dude abides.
Title: Re: Dudeism
Post by: Andrea Da Fino on September 02, 2011, 01:29:43 AM
Well, I should be the one who says if you can be one of those viking amazon women or not; it's my Dudervana.  ;)
And from what I've seen on the pics, no, you're not like Jeff Dowd at all.

BTW, to be sexually correct, in Dudervana there also a lot of men fixing the cables. It depends from what someone wants to find there. It's Dudervana at the end, with endless beers and free lanes.  8)
Title: Re: Dudeism
Post by: Andrea Da Fino on September 04, 2011, 03:25:27 PM
Sure, everyone has the right to choose his own path, and if he cares about lines, that's cool. Not much sure if every chosen path belongs to Dudeism though.  I mean every one can say I'm a Dude, if then he's really a Dude has to be demonstrated. There can be a difference. A lot of people fill their mouth saying I'm a Christian but in reality go around with a torch, or hammer and nails, behind their back. Saying something is one thing, being something sometimes is another. Dudely debates help to make things clearer. 8)

And female Dudes help keep things in the right perspective. Imho.  ;D
Title: Re: Dudeism
Post by: hannahdude on September 04, 2011, 08:26:06 PM
is it just me or???
Title: Re: Dudeism
Post by: Andrea Da Fino on September 04, 2011, 11:59:59 PM
Actually in Italy Andrea is mainly a male name. But thanks for the 8 dude.

Hannadude, f****ng cool profile picture. Far out.
Title: Re: Dudeism
Post by: hannahdude on September 05, 2011, 12:20:30 AM
rev andrea,
in the parlance of our times i say to you THANKIE.
for 'the power of dudeuversal energy' chapter, it was really helpful and well written. so THANKIE for helping me re-actualize my belly handles and get my chi back on track.
Title: Re: Dudeism
Post by: Andrea Da Fino on September 06, 2011, 12:39:29 AM
Hannahdude, Thankie for your kind words. I'm very glad you've find it useful, I wrote it to be this way so that's a fabulous strike for me. Very much appreciated words.  8)
Title: Re: Dudeism
Post by: Andrea Da Fino on September 06, 2011, 12:47:17 AM
Hey thinkingdude, no problems at all. I said it just because I know my name is used in English-speaking countries that way so I misunderstood your saying, probably it's time for me to follow another English course, well, maybe next year.  ;D
Title: Re: Dudeism
Post by: Zen Dog on September 15, 2011, 03:56:36 AM
New shit has come to light dudes.
I 'acquired' this from ULC Tribal.

In the beginning,we need all kinds of help.
Then,if growth is not stunted,we become adults.
It is in the way of things,if not "The Way".
We are not supposed to remain as dependent children
following someone elses dogma and dictates.

It's like "This is how you cut a path through the wilderness,now clear off and cut your own.Don't turn mine into a muddy track".
I think Ray Mears is a dude.
Down the trail dudes.
Title: Re: Dudeism
Post by: Andrea Da Fino on September 26, 2011, 12:31:20 AM
You're surely right. Nevertheless Dudeism is based also on listening to the words of people wiser than ourselves, like the Dudely Llama. At least that's as I see it. Luckily he's not into either dogmas or dictates.

As a philosophy Dudeism can be "followed" by every dudely person around, even those who prefer to walk their own path as they see fit, total freedom and so on; Dudeism as a religion instead is organized as the Dudely Llama says. Not that the two things can't go hand in hand anyway. I mean, this is just my opinion, humble or complicated.  8)
Title: Re: Dudeism
Post by: meekon5 on September 26, 2011, 07:58:51 AM

You're surely right. Nevertheless Dudeism is based also on listening to the words of people wiser than ourselves, like the Dudely Llama. At least that's as I see it. Luckily he's not into either dogmas or dictates.


Let's not feed Olivers ego too much here. ;D

I know he formulated the concept but let's not canonize him yet, he has to perform a number of Dudeist miracles, then his body should not decay when he is buried (yep got to be dead before you can be listed as canonized).

Once the idea (Dudeism) became public domain it belongs to all of us. Which is what this forum is about. But no one person's viewpoint is correct. which is why I get a bit annoyed at people posting "This Is Dudeism.." or "I do this because it is a Dudeist thing.."

I think this is where we fall down the hole of the western definition of "Religion" which is mostly based on the christian thing (erroneously). Where one must have rules and dogma in order to spot those that are in the religion and those that are not.

Dudeism, based on Taoism, takes the Eastern idea that it is a way of life, a way of being in the world but not of the world.

BTW

...
Then,if growth is not stunted,we become adults.
...

Not if I can bloody help it. I nearly disowned "The Godson From Hell" this weekend for suggesting I should be the "sensible" one.

Grow old disgracefully.

Better to see the world with the eyes of a child, than to exist childishly as petty, greedy, jealous, self centered individuals.

Title: Re: Dudeism
Post by: Andrea Da Fino on September 26, 2011, 11:53:17 AM
Agree.  ;D But let me say that I see him as more correct in his own point of view, or wiser than me... You surely get the point man.  :D

Btw, I think that to define something as Taoist the word must have a kind of specific meaning, just like Dudeism. I mean even if Dudeism encompasses everything being a dude means a more or less clear thing. An 8 yo man cannot be considered a Dude while being existent it's still part of Tao (I used the pronoun it on purpose). Part of Tao but not Dudeist or Dude.

I mean there should be a reason if something is Taoist and something else is Buddhist, or Shintoist. As for more or less total freedom of point of views ok but anything can either be Dudeist or not so this means that Dudeism is a specific thing, probably.

Aren't we splitting hairs here compeer?  ;D

As for the canonization even walking on water would be cool.  :D
Title: Re: Dudeism
Post by: meekon5 on September 26, 2011, 12:58:36 PM
As for the canonization even walking on water would be cool.  :D

Water into wine is more useful and gets you invited to more parties I think!
Title: Re: Dudeism
Post by: Andrea Da Fino on September 26, 2011, 01:18:46 PM
I agree with you 100%. But to be a real canonized dude he should transform water in beer. Water in wine has been already done.  :D
Title: Re: Dudeism
Post by: Zen Dog on September 26, 2011, 07:51:05 PM
I'm pretty good at doing it the other way round.
Title: Re: Dudeism
Post by: cckeiser on September 26, 2011, 09:49:03 PM
LOL!! Good One! Dudeist turn beer and wine into piss! ;D
Title: Re: Dudeism
Post by: Andrea Da Fino on September 27, 2011, 12:32:16 AM
 :D Far out Zen Dog!
Title: Re: Dudeism
Post by: Hominid on September 27, 2011, 01:28:42 AM
Agree.  ;D But let me say that I see him as more correct in his own point of view, or wiser than me... You surely get the point man.  :D

Btw, I think that to define something as Taoist the word must have a kind of specific meaning, just like Dudeism. I mean even if Dudeism encompasses everything being a dude means a more or less clear thing. An 8 yo man cannot be considered a Dude while being existent it's still part of Tao (I used the pronoun it on purpose). Part of Tao but not Dudeist or Dude.

I mean there should be a reason if something is Taoist and something else is Buddhist, or Shintoist. As for more or less total freedom of point of views ok but anything can either be Dudeist or not so this means that Dudeism is a specific thing, probably.

Aren't we splitting hairs here compeer?  ;D

As for the canonization even walking on water would be cool.  :D
I'd go for a crying statue...
Title: Re: Dudeism
Post by: forumdude on September 27, 2011, 02:32:50 AM

You're surely right. Nevertheless Dudeism is based also on listening to the words of people wiser than ourselves, like the Dudely Llama. At least that's as I see it. Luckily he's not into either dogmas or dictates.


Let's not feed Olivers ego too much here. ;D

I know he formulated the concept but let's not canonize him yet, he has to perform a number of Dudeist miracles, then his body should not decay when he is buried (yep got to be dead before you can be listed as canonized).

Once the idea (Dudeism) became public domain it belongs to all of us. Which is what this forum is about. But no one person's viewpoint is correct. which is why I get a bit annoyed at people posting "This Is Dudeism.." or "I do this because it is a Dudeist thing.."

I think this is where we fall down the hole of the western definition of "Religion" which is mostly based on the christian thing (erroneously). Where one must have rules and dogma in order to spot those that are in the religion and those that are not.

Dudeism, based on Taoism, takes the Eastern idea that it is a way of life, a way of being in the world but not of the world.

BTW

...
Then,if growth is not stunted,we become adults.
...

Not if I can bloody help it. I nearly disowned "The Godson From Hell" this weekend for suggesting I should be the "sensible" one.

Grow old disgracefully.

Better to see the world with the eyes of a child, than to exist childishly as petty, greedy, jealous, self centered individuals.



Oh yeah, please don't canonize me while i'm still alive. Running Dudeism has already cut into my hammock-time far more than I'd anticipated. After I die you can do whatever the fuck you all wish! I'll be dead so I won't care. ;)
Title: Re: Dudeism
Post by: DigitalBuddha on September 27, 2011, 02:44:15 AM
I'm ready to be canonized as long as it means I can get free oat sodas at bowling alleys and plenty of zesty coitus.  But if I could get the same being a Dudeist Monk, I'll settle for that; Monk DiditalBuddha, or His Monkness DigitalBuddha if you're not into the whole brevity thing. ;D(http://dudeism.com/smf/Themes/classic/images/post/thumbup.gif)
Title: Re: Dudeism
Post by: Hominid on September 27, 2011, 03:04:01 AM
...same results for being a roadie for [insert popular band name here]. Get laid, all the Tai stick you want, free massages. No need to mimic other religions' means of gathering zesty coitus. Getting canonized (after you expire) places responsibilities on one's surviving relatives...  Hey man, stay away from religious groupies!!! They'll want to marry you and meet their parents. EEEEeeech...
Title: Re: Dudeism
Post by: meekon5 on September 28, 2011, 01:21:52 AM
...Hey man, stay away from religious groupies!!! They'll want to marry you and meet their parents. EEEEeeech...

They'll marry you after you're dead, who have you been mixing with? The Mormons?
Title: Re: Dudeism
Post by: Hominid on September 28, 2011, 01:45:11 AM
Mu chronology is iffy - sorry!
Title: Re: Dudeism
Post by: Andrea Da Fino on September 28, 2011, 04:49:12 AM
Far out dudes, I get so much fun in this great forum, glad to be a part of this beach community. Anyhow ForumDude, the question still remains, are you able to transform water in beer?

:) :) :) etc., etc.
Title: Re: Dudeism
Post by: meekon5 on September 28, 2011, 05:34:55 AM
Mu chronology is iffy - sorry!

And don't even bring up the Atlantians!

;D

(sorry wrong mu?
http://www.badarchaeology.com/?page_id=526
and
http://www.lauralee.com/japan.htm)
Title: Re: Dudeism
Post by: Hominid on September 28, 2011, 06:54:18 PM
"Mu" = "My" - typo
Title: Re: Dudeism
Post by: Hominid on September 28, 2011, 06:55:54 PM
Far out dudes, I get so much fun in this great forum, glad to be a part of this beach community. Anyhow ForumDude, the question still remains, are you able to transform water in beer?

:) :) :) etc., etc.
Sure, with hops, yeast, malt. And a couple weeks.  ;-)
Title: Re: Dudeism
Post by: DigitalBuddha on September 28, 2011, 07:21:50 PM
I can turn beer into something else, but we won't go into that.  ;D
Title: Re: Dudeism
Post by: Zen Dog on September 28, 2011, 08:18:41 PM
I think Lt-Colonel Churchward was probably partial to a Thai stick or two in his day.
Title: Re: Dudeism
Post by: Andrea Da Fino on September 28, 2011, 11:59:46 PM
Far out dudes, I get so much fun in this great forum, glad to be a part of this beach community. Anyhow ForumDude, the question still remains, are you able to transform water in beer?

:) :) :) etc., etc.
Sure, with hops, yeast, malt. And a couple weeks.  ;-)

:D :D :D Fu***ng A!
Title: Re: Dudeism
Post by: Caesar dude on September 29, 2011, 06:06:28 AM
I can transform beer into water....does that count? ;)
Title: Re: Dudeism
Post by: Andrea Da Fino on September 29, 2011, 06:47:48 AM
Well, dude, we just don't know.  ;D
Title: Re: Dudeism
Post by: Zen Dog on September 30, 2011, 04:25:39 PM
Yeah. Lotta ins lotta outs lotta what have you's
Title: Re: Dudeism
Post by: Hominid on September 30, 2011, 05:19:15 PM
Too many strands for this old duder's head...
Title: Re: Dudeism
Post by: Kit on October 13, 2011, 07:02:40 PM
I have been studying "The Dude De Ching" and I've had an epiphany.

I suggest that systems of belief based on faith instead of reason must not be given any greater or lesser due deference than any other form of artistic expression.
Title: Re: Dudeism
Post by: DigitalBuddha on October 13, 2011, 07:52:01 PM
I have been studying "The Dude De Ching" and I've had an epiphany.

I suggest that systems of belief based on faith instead of reason must not be given any greater or lesser due deference than any other form of artistic expression.


Is that some kind of Eastern thing? It does, however, bring up the question of can a belief be based on both faith and reason?
Title: Re: Dudeism
Post by: Hominid on October 13, 2011, 11:19:39 PM
Nope.
Title: Re: Dudeism
Post by: Andrea Da Fino on October 14, 2011, 12:40:55 AM
Believable faith, reasonable faith, faithful belief, faithful reason ? ? ?  ;D
Title: Re: Dudeism
Post by: Hominid on October 14, 2011, 01:05:51 AM
Faith is belief in something that doesn't exist. Contrary to Dudeism, which has its roots on Zen.  Need I get out a dictionary?

HELP! Anyone...
Title: Re: Dudeism
Post by: cckeiser on October 14, 2011, 01:16:33 PM
?When we remember we are all mad, the mysteries disappear and life stands explained.?
Samuel Langhorne Clemens
Title: Re: Dudeism
Post by: Andrea Da Fino on October 14, 2011, 01:28:27 PM
2Faith is belief in something that doesn't exist. Contrary to Dudeism, which has its roots on Zen."

I should definitely begin to learn about Zen, still digging into the whole Taoism thing. You're surely right, we're much more into the trust thing than the faith thing.  8)

"When we remember we are all mad, the mysteries disappear and life stands explained."

Fabulous stuff, and pretty correct.  8)
Title: Re: Dudeism
Post by: cckeiser on October 14, 2011, 01:46:15 PM
Found another quote that fits here! ;D

"There is simply no avoiding the conclusion that the human race is mad. There are scarcely any human beings who do not have some lunatic beliefs or other to which they attach great importance. People are mostly sane enough, of course, in the affairs of common life: the getting of food, shelter, and so on. But the moment they attempt any depth or generality of thought, they go mad almost infallibly."
David Stove
Title: Re: Dudeism
Post by: Zen Dog on October 14, 2011, 08:12:26 PM
There is no such thing as absolute truth.Just perceptions and opinions.
Me.
Title: Re: Dudeism
Post by: Hominid on October 14, 2011, 08:24:59 PM
You've just made an absolute statement... Philosophy 101.
Title: Re: Dudeism
Post by: DigitalBuddha on October 15, 2011, 01:12:23 AM
There is no such thing as absolute truth.Just perceptions and opinions.
Me.

Yeah, well, that's just like your opinion, man.  ;D
Title: Re: Dudeism
Post by: Andrea Da Fino on October 15, 2011, 01:28:49 AM
This is interesting. We are all sane enough.  ;D
Title: Re: Dudeism
Post by: RevMattson on October 15, 2011, 02:11:42 AM
Does anyone know of the Dudeism rules in Michigan?
Title: Re: Dudeism
Post by: DigitalBuddha on October 15, 2011, 02:24:21 AM
Does anyone know of the Dudeism rules in Michigan?

In what respect? Affecting what?

.....and dude, welcome to our beach community? Grab a rug and an oat soda!
Title: Re: Dudeism
Post by: Hominid on October 15, 2011, 02:30:12 AM
VAGINA!

Fuck, I hate it when I do that...
Title: Re: Dudeism
Post by: cckeiser on October 15, 2011, 12:56:31 PM
Does anyone know of the Dudeism rules in Michigan?
Yep...just take it easy man.
Anything else you want to know dude? ;D
Welcome to our beach party dude! 8)

Title: Re: Dudeism
Post by: Zen Dog on October 17, 2011, 07:31:53 PM
We are all sane enough? Hah, you think?
Title: Re: Dudeism
Post by: Andrea Da Fino on October 18, 2011, 03:00:15 AM
Well, most of the times. Also, it depends on what you think sane means.  :D
Title: Re: Dudeism
Post by: DigitalBuddha on October 18, 2011, 03:35:37 AM
To me, "sane" means that your "god damned mind hasn't crashed into the mountain!"

(http://www.theclevelandfan.com/images/stories/planecrash.jpg)


.........I can't think of a better definition.  ;D
Title: Re: Dudeism
Post by: Hominid on October 18, 2011, 03:44:59 AM
Perfect screen cap to make your point.
Title: Re: Dudeism
Post by: meekon5 on October 18, 2011, 07:09:00 AM
This is interesting. We are all sane enough.  ;D

I'm not!
Title: Re: Dudeism
Post by: cckeiser on October 18, 2011, 08:14:17 AM
From a Bumper Sticker - I do not suffer from Insanity...I enjoy every minute of it!

I sure wish I had said that! ;D
Title: Re: Dudeism
Post by: Andrea Da Fino on October 18, 2011, 12:44:51 PM
  :D  :D  :D Fucking A, Dudes!  ;D  ;D  ;D
Title: Re: Dudeism
Post by: DigitalBuddha on October 18, 2011, 04:47:14 PM
Perfect screen cap to make your point.

Thanks, mang; I always like the dramatic touch.  ;D
Title: Re: Dudeism
Post by: hannahdude on October 24, 2011, 10:47:09 PM
cckeiser..... we can make you that sticker at cafepress.com
i'd love one as well!
Title: Re: Dudeism
Post by: meekon5 on October 25, 2011, 10:24:07 AM
cckeiser..... we can make you that sticker at cafepress.com
i'd love one as well!

You mean:

(http://i1.cpcache.com/product/394486636/suffer_from_insanity_tee.jpg?color=Black)

from cafepress.com (http://www.cafepress.co.uk/+suffer_from_insanity_womens_dark_tshirt,394486636) as hannah suggested
Title: Re: Dudeism
Post by: cckeiser on October 25, 2011, 03:22:48 PM
i'm going to have it tattooed on my forehead! ;D
Title: Re: Dudeism
Post by: DigitalBuddha on March 30, 2012, 02:29:29 AM
It is rare for me to find something on the cyberspace that?s as entertaining and fascinating as what you?ve got here. Your page is lovely, your graphics are outstanding, and what?s more, you use source that are relevant to what you are talking about. You are certainly one in a million, well done!


Hey javedjim dude, welcome to our beach community, grab any rug in the house and abide! Good to have you here, bars' over there, mang.
Title: Re: Dudeism
Post by: Caesar dude on March 30, 2012, 08:47:08 AM
Are you sure your not peddling something Javedjim?????

I am highly suspicious.....
Title: Re: Dudeism
Post by: DigitalBuddha on March 30, 2012, 12:12:38 PM
Are you sure your not peddling something Javedjim?????

I am highly suspicious.....

He got the axe. ;D
Title: Re: Dudeism
Post by: Caesar dude on March 30, 2012, 02:41:37 PM
and you were so nice to him dude! ;) :)
Title: Re: Dudeism
Post by: DigitalBuddha on March 30, 2012, 04:11:49 PM
and you were so nice to him dude! ;) :)

I was, yes, this is true. But, I had my suspicions ;D

I wrote this to the other Admins and to the Forumdude........

Hey dudes, there is a new member, "javedjim" that might be a spammer. I'm giving the dude the benefit of the doubt for a while. The reason I suspect him of spamming is for three reasons...

1. He has a link to a "naturopath" commercial website in his signature, it might be legit (might just be his thing), but I have my doubts. Looks a lot like an ad.

2. His first post was NOT hand typed in, it was copied and pasted in; notice the question marks (?) where punctuation marks would be if he typed in his post by hand. I.e., the sometimes problem we have copying and pasting verbiage from some websites we might be sharing in a post; punctuation marks show up as question marks, a hint that he merely copied his post from some website or a bot might have posted it from a database.

3. His first post was mellow, BUT, generic and could have been posted in any chat board, and in actuality, had no Dudeism or Lebowski related content in it. Here it is.........

It is rare for me to find something on the cyberspace that?s as entertaining and fascinating as what you?ve got here. Your page is lovely, your graphics are outstanding, and what?s more, you use source that are relevant to what you are talking about. You are certainly one in a million, well done!

His profile is (WAS) here.........  http://dudeism.com/smf/index.php?action=profile;u=6695

I'll let him be for the time being, but if the group mind has bad vibes on this dude, feel free to ace him as far as I'm concerned.

OK, dudes, that's it. Abide!
Title: Re: Dudeism
Post by: Caesar dude on March 30, 2012, 06:08:38 PM
I know you've got our backs DB! Thankee. :)
Title: Re: Dudeism
Post by: DigitalBuddha on March 30, 2012, 06:14:43 PM
I know you've got our backs DB! Thankee. :)

You're welcome, no problemo, dude.
Title: Re: Dudeism
Post by: milnie on March 31, 2012, 05:45:45 PM
Yeah dude, dig your style
Title: Re: Dudeism
Post by: DigitalBuddha on March 31, 2012, 06:24:03 PM
Yeah dude, dig your style

Thankee  ;)
Title: Re: Dudeism
Post by: cckeiser on March 31, 2012, 09:09:33 PM
I ran across this picture of what I think is a real dude puppy. I forgot how to post images again. Can you help me out DB? 8)
http://www.dogbreedinfo.com/images19/BorderCollieBordeauxMalettiPuppy.JPG
Title: Re: Dudeism
Post by: DigitalBuddha on March 31, 2012, 09:15:15 PM
http://www.dogbreedinfo.com/images19/BorderCollieBordeauxMalettiPuppy.JPG

That looks like one happy dog. ;D
Title: Re: Dudeism
Post by: milnie on April 01, 2012, 05:01:20 PM
But not the dogs owner if that ain't a sausage!
Title: Re: Dudeism
Post by: DigitalBuddha on April 01, 2012, 06:02:31 PM
But not the dogs owner if that ain't a sausage!

(http://image.spreadshirt.com/image-server/image/composition/1695016/view/1/producttypecolor/16/type/png/width/280/height/280/i-need-my-johnson_design.png)

Title: Re: Dudeism
Post by: ManRalf on April 05, 2012, 07:08:52 AM
It feels like the word religion is abit demonized, that just invokes thoughts about oppression, rules and regulations.
But in these postmodern times we live in isn't everything relative? I agree that the term when used on such abstract views as Tao is way for us westerners to put a label on it.
And i understand that being postmodern means breaking free from stagnant thoughts and belief systems. But most part of religions under all the layers of dogmas and rules are about helping others and...lost my train of thought here. It was posted on page 1..something about dudeism being about growth i think. What I'm tryin to get to here is why shy away from the term? Why not reinvent the wheel? In these relative times we live in religion means what ever we want it to mean...But this is just my opinion..
Title: Re: Dudeism
Post by: Rev. Ed C on April 05, 2012, 11:19:08 AM
It feels like the word religion is abit demonized, that just invokes thoughts about oppression, rules and regulations.
But in these postmodern times we live in isn't everything relative? I agree that the term when used on such abstract views as Tao is way for us westerners to put a label on it.
And i understand that being postmodern means breaking free from stagnant thoughts and belief systems. But most part of religions under all the layers of dogmas and rules are about helping others and...lost my train of thought here. It was posted on page 1..something about dudeism being about growth i think. What I'm tryin to get to here is why shy away from the term? Why not reinvent the wheel? In these relative times we live in religion means what ever we want it to mean...But this is just my opinion..

I think that's pretty-much spot on.  I think religion often is demonised as a term and a concept, usually by militant atheists ho can't come to terms with that fact that atheism is just as much a religion as any other :P

As I've said many times before, Capitalism and Communism would work just fine without corruption, and the same can be said about religions.  It's only the bad seeds that sully the institution.

There's no use slagging of Christians, because if a Christian riles you up so much that you need to slag him off, he's not much of a Christian.  Why condemn Islam for acts of violence when it's anti-islamic to do so?

In nature it's often survival of the fittest, the strongest and most aggressive, but not always.  Sometimes an organism keeps itself alive by keeping the host alive.  Modern religions didn't survive into our society today by fighting but by adapting and evolving to be beneficial to the host (i.e. society).

Dudeism is a natural progression, by taking aspects of other religions and philosophies and squeezing the most benefit out of them and tied around a few new ideals that bind the whole thing together.  And, of course, much like the Tao, there's got to be flow and movement or we become like all the dead religions of the bygone ages that wouldn't adapt and died out.
Title: Re: Dudeism
Post by: Hominid on April 05, 2012, 11:25:51 AM
Ya, I agree Ed - like I've always said, it's what's in people's hearts that are revealed, whether you're a Muslim or a Christian.  There's even Satanists who are nice people.  The corrupt whakos just use religion as an excuse and vehicle for their hatred.

The cream rises to the top - take Mother Teresa for example, or Ghandi. I don't think these people cared all that much about dogma and rules, but more about changing the world around them for the better.  Love is love is love is love...
Title: Re: Dudeism
Post by: Rev. Ed C on April 05, 2012, 11:33:50 AM
The cream rises to the top - take Mother Teresa for example, or Ghandi. I don't think these people cared all that much about dogma and rules, but more about changing the world around them for the better.  Love is love is love is love...

Indeed!  Great Dudely rolemodels.  Take the principals of goodness and turn them to the benefit of all.  I bet Ghandi never paid the rent on time, but I bet he always turned up to his landlord's dance recital ;)
Title: Re: Dudeism
Post by: Caesar dude on April 08, 2012, 08:29:59 PM
Quote
take Mother Teresa for example

Not an example I would use! Don't believe the hype dude....she was duped by the CC and used by them as a PR exercise. Not as holy or devout as you might think....nasty piece of work in some eyes, mine included!

She was a staunch advocate of any Papal decree especially contraception which in India of course leads to more poverty and deprivation. She was an advocate not for the poor but believed in the Churches word (God's word in her case) that the poor had to suffer in order to redeem themselves! And that what they reaped so they would sow.

Yep she was there to "pick up the pieces" bUt trust me this lady was harsh and far, far from the ideals of Christianity that one might expect.

A worse person you could not have quoted.

Ghandi on the other hand. Well that man was a good and thorough guy..upstanding in HIS community.

Peace
Title: Re: Dudeism
Post by: ManRalf on April 10, 2012, 09:12:59 AM
So its possible to say that dudeism as a whole is an exemple of the proverbial rising of the cream?

I know that its all about diffrent oppionions but curious about what kind of views there are about Dudeism as a religion and why there is a at times such a harsh dismissal of the term.

How do you explain Dudeism to people that havent heard of it before?

To be crass i think there is a lot of truth in Jonathan Z Smith's words when he says that Religion isnt anything other then a scientific construct, just a way to put labels on human behaviour. But is that really the whole story? Is that really all that a religion is?
Labels are a big part of western society so why not let it stand for as Rev Ed puts it "Take the principals of goodness and turn them to the benefit of all". Which i think it is pure wisdom.

Title: Re: Dudeism
Post by: Hominid on April 10, 2012, 09:23:52 AM
There are so many varying opinions and perspectives on the entire subject of religion, that birds of a feather tend to flock together, including Dudeism.  But, answering some of the more persistent questions will always spark debate, even amongst us ...  the agreed-upon common core beliefs are there, yet others seem to still be up to some discussion. Which is why I don't see Dudeism so much of a serious religion, as more of a cool place to hang out with like-minded dudes.

I think the duality in Dudeism is that 1) we call Dudeism a religion, and yet 2) it can be argued that it's really more of a state of mind; a philosophy that lies outside the boundaries of rules and regulations that characterize typical religions.

And of course, that's like - my opinion man...

 
Title: Re: Dudeism
Post by: ManRalf on April 10, 2012, 09:27:40 AM
But would you go as far as some people and call Dudeism a mock religion?
Title: Re: Dudeism
Post by: Hominid on April 10, 2012, 09:52:56 AM
I do.  And in doing so have drawn the ire of some of the members here. And explaining it here will draw even more. To me, it's playing house.. make believe. Imagine exclaiming to a group of people (say, in a bar, or at the office) that you're an ardent follower of a religion based on a movie character played by Jeff Bridges.  

Look at all the terms and descriptions... they're a parody of other religions... "Church of the Latter Day Dude" for example. "The Dude de Ching".  The "Dudely Lama"  ... who himself says:

Quote
Down through the ages, this "rebel shrug" has fortified many successful creeds ? Buddhism, Christianity, Sufism, John Lennonism and Fo?-Shizzle-my-Nizzlism.

It is my opinion that Oliver had his tongue firmly planted in his cheek when he wrote that. Perhaps you see it that way as well - ?

To avoid getting flames up my ass, I *will* qualify this post with:  This is my opinion.  

Others should chime in here...
Title: Re: Dudeism
Post by: ManRalf on April 10, 2012, 10:03:04 AM
Im tryin to be objective to be honest. I'm writing my bachelor degree on religons sprung out of popculture, and my focus is on Dudeism. Trying among other things to get a handle on how Dudeism is perceived within the dudely ranks.

I'm also writing about Jediism for instance which in its way shares a common birthing place in popculture. Jediism has abit of a diffrent aproach when it comes to the term religion from what ive read so far..
Title: Re: Dudeism
Post by: Hominid on April 10, 2012, 10:26:15 AM
There definitely is some inertia behind this pop culture religious movement... consequently, you'll read in these forums a wide variety of opinions.  As society slowly rejects the mainstream Adamic religions, I think people look for something to label themselves, and to be part of something bigger.  As much as I dislike religion per se, it has provided a vital function in our evolving society.  There's no real evidence, but it is postulated by anthropologists and scientists (such as Denton) that religion and language evolved around the same time. Interesting stuff.

But truly, if I ever met a real-life Jedi follower that claimed they could levitate spaceships out of swamps, I'd be looking around for a way to exit the room... sooner than later...  ;)

Title: Re: Dudeism
Post by: ManRalf on April 10, 2012, 10:48:27 AM
You talk about religion in past tense? Isnt it possible that religion has countiuned role to play in society? Isnt society and language in a constant state of change? So is this postmodern take on religion just a step in the prolonged development of the term?
Title: Re: Dudeism
Post by: Hominid on April 10, 2012, 11:37:13 AM
Oh, no doubt old-school religion still plays a major role in certain societies - but  I see it taking more of a back seat compared to 50 or 100 years ago.  It's a slow evolution, but I do see it happening.
Title: Re: Dudeism
Post by: meekon5 on April 10, 2012, 12:27:44 PM
I think Hominid and myself have frequently argued the semantics of this point extensively.

Personally I don't agree with the statement:

But would you go as far as some people and call Dudeism a mock religion?

I think the semantics balance on the word "religion".

I would not really class Dudeism as a religion, the same way I would not term Taoism a religion.

But then the term religion has been hijacked in many quarters to mean christianity.

As for us being "serious", here we divert into concepts like the laughing Buddha, the mass of the absurdity, and the holy fool.

I will be honest the best way I've managed to put my opinion is here:

http://dudeism.com/smf/index.php?topic=2621.msg22592#msg22592

Title: Re: Dudeism
Post by: meekon5 on April 10, 2012, 12:59:53 PM
Oh, no doubt old-school religion still plays a major role in certain societies - but  I see it taking more of a back seat compared to 50 or 100 years ago.  It's a slow evolution, but I do see it happening.

The UK have also changed the way they question about religion (due to a Humanist campaign) which caused almost eighty percent of people (UK) in the last census to put they were not of any particular religion as apposed to just ticking the boxes, "white", "british", "christian".
Title: Re: Dudeism
Post by: Hominid on April 10, 2012, 01:01:58 PM
Ya, I suppose if the languaging was agreed upon, there wouldn't be so much back-and-forth you and I have had.  FWIW, religion to me is more the old-school transcultural world religions that have been around for centuries.  Catholic, Islamic, etc... is what I'm thinking of here.

More to the point though is that Manralf's question about taking Dudeism seriously as a religion speaks to - as I mentioned - the seemingly tongue-in-cheek way that Oliver started this whole thing in the first place... He called it a religion, labelled it as such, what with all the bastardized terms, all of which is one big "Let's thumb our nose at religion" effort.  Am I wrong?

Parody is parody is parody...  Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.
Title: Re: Dudeism
Post by: meekon5 on April 10, 2012, 01:06:42 PM
But for me Dudeism doesn't belong to Oliver any more, it did until it went public domain.

Also it doesn't actually matter that you don't take it seriously, it matters that I take it seriously.

As i said to my godson when he picked up one of my important crystals at home, it doesn't matter that he doesn't believe it matters that I believe.

Title: Re: Dudeism
Post by: Hominid on April 10, 2012, 01:18:01 PM
No offense meant - I have huge respect for you...
Title: Re: Dudeism
Post by: Hominid on April 10, 2012, 01:34:32 PM
My thing is, I'm always looking for truth, even if that means dumping a value and belief system that no longer serves me. So, as a former Catholic, atheist, evangelical fundamentalist bible thumper, agnostic, and shaman (...who can argue any of them fairly well), religion to me just speaks of being shackled by someone else's rules, interpretation, and vision. 

Put another way, to me, nothing is as sacred as truth itself.

Title: Re: Dudeism
Post by: meekon5 on April 10, 2012, 04:32:21 PM
No offense meant - I have huge respect for you...

Hominid sorry I shouldn't try to type stuff just as I'm leaving the office.

That came out entirely wrong. It was not meant as aggressively as it came out.

Let me try  and expand what I was trying to say.

Firstly it is my entire joy of the concept of Dudeism that both you and I can both just as equally call ourselves Dudeist with such divergent viewpoints and still be right.

But for me Dudeism doesn't belong to Oliver any more, it did until it went public domain.

Though Oliver came up with the revelation, all my life I have hovered around a Zen/Taoist point of view but had problems reconsiling that viewpoint with living in the west. Dudeism reconciles that problem for me, whether it was initially meant as a jest or not.

Also it doesn't actually matter that you don't take it seriously, it matters that I take it seriously.

More accurately I should have said it doesn't matter to me, and doesn't change my point of view that you don't take it seriously, it matters that I take it seriously,

As i said to my godson when he picked up one of my important crystals at home, it doesn't matter that he doesn't believe it matters that I believe.

It is my belief that each individual is the center of their own perception of the universe, following Descartes arguments that you cannot communicate directly with anyone brain to brain.

When you enter an ancient cathederal or any place of worship that has existed for a long while (stonehenge, the golden temple at amritsar) you feel a feeling of great awe.

Now is that awe from something outside the place, or from the place, perhaps from the other people there, or the amount of people in the past who have felt awe there and have left the feeling, or is it because you think you should feel awe yourself?

Or is any of it important?

It's not important to Dudeism that I believe it is a serious extension of Taoism and Zen with a western humourist edge to make it more palatable to more people, and you don't, because both points of view work  and have brought both of us together here to communicate in a way we probably would never have done if it was not for Dudeism.

And also yes some of us explode a bit when we may feel you (as you generally not you specifically) seem to be disrespecting what we hold as a very sincere point of view, but no opinion should stand without being questioned.
Title: Re: Dudeism
Post by: Hominid on April 10, 2012, 05:32:35 PM
I didn't really take it as aggressive, and neither was I being aggressive, though my wife does say I can come across as a crusty old fart!  I've always liked your reading your posts, and appreciate your input on things, and yes - that is what I like about this environment - people like you and I can chat about such things without pulling out guns or swords.  Everyone is entitled to our opinions, right?  ;)

So, whether Dudeism is a joke or not, we have forged a friendship that is based on respect. I like that you don't get all huffy when someone doesn't see exactly eye to eye with you, as I don't.  Good discussion and debate about values, philosophy, and religion is something I've always enjoyed, so I hang out here with you dudes.

Let me clarify one thing: I take the ethos of dudeism seriously, as I also like the Taoist perspective very much. But the fact that I'm an ordained  "Dudeist Priest", well, that just makes me chuckle to beat the band... 
Title: Re: Dudeism
Post by: ManRalf on April 11, 2012, 05:55:42 AM
Meekon, thanks for that link, most enlightening. As i've mentioned i'm currently trying to write my degree on religions with roots in popculture. And been told at the university that as a part of the learning process is to "kill your darlings" but ive gone the opposite approach and said fuck it and took my darling (Dudeism) bowling and have tried to always supply her with a perpetually fresh beverage.

So it's more or less gold to get to partake in your discussions, makes me feel that im not on a complete wild goosechase.
My thought is to investigate if movements like Dudeism just are products of our postmodern society or some form of "stand" against a more and more capitalist driven world
Title: Re: Dudeism
Post by: ManRalf on April 11, 2012, 05:56:56 AM
Lost my train of thought there for a moment, i was gonna ask you dudes if i have your permission to refer to your sage words in my paper?
Title: Re: Dudeism
Post by: meekon5 on April 11, 2012, 06:02:00 AM
My thought is to investigate if movements like Dudeism just are products of our postmodern society or some form of "stand" against a more and more capitalist driven world

Both.

Also possibly a reaction to information overload as well.

I do believe that there is some debate about the relevance of the term "Post Modernism". I was reading an article a while back but can't remember the detail. I'll try and find that.
Title: Re: Dudeism
Post by: meekon5 on April 11, 2012, 06:04:06 AM
Lost my train of thought there for a moment, i was gonna ask you dudes if i have your permission to refer to your sage words in my paper?

With the usual caveat that you credit our wisdom (or stupidity) correctly, without alteration. I have no problem with you quoting myself.
Title: Re: Dudeism
Post by: ManRalf on April 11, 2012, 06:11:52 AM
Yeah, that too...have been nursing the thought of applying some type of ecology of religion that movements like Dudeism is some sorta form of reaction of our living enviorment, that we more and more are being invaded optically and audio..caly...by the sounds and sights of commercialism. That we as humans more and more are taking the role of cattle in an overly commercialised world, I'm thinking neuromarketing and what have you.

We consume there for are we of use in society. And the dudely ways represents something that appeals to people, the whole thing of just dropping the hustle and bustle and pour your self a Caucasian...But that might fall in under information overload when i think about it though...
Title: Re: Dudeism
Post by: ManRalf on April 11, 2012, 06:17:19 AM
I blame my poor use (mangeling) of the English language on the fact of my location in the frosty north, hence my occasional mauling of the Queens English. But constantly fighting of polarbears with one hand while gallantly typing with the other is abit of a contributing factor too...
Title: Re: Dudeism
Post by: ManRalf on April 11, 2012, 06:29:17 AM
Hominid, so would you call yourself a true and blue postmodern man? You seem to live along the lines of partaking in the everexpanding postmodern "smorgasbord" trying a lil bit of this and a lil bit of this and knowing that is in your full right to move on if you don't like the particular spread.

Can't for the life in me remember who coined the phrase and theory or what it was really about but it was something about applying a sorta "what's in it for me" approach to life in general including religion. That it is a given that Joe twelvepack can move from being a snakehandler, dropping that when the thrill of blowing raspberries in the face of the reaper dies down and give holistic medicine a go.
Title: Re: Dudeism
Post by: meekon5 on April 11, 2012, 09:01:13 AM
I do believe that there is some debate about the relevance of the term "Post Modernism". I was reading an article a while back but can't remember the detail. I'll try and find that.

The Death of Postmodernism And Beyond. Alan Kirby. (http://www.philosophynow.org/issues/58/The_Death_of_Postmodernism_And_Beyond)

But also google The Death of Postmodernism for a lot more.
Title: Re: Dudeism
Post by: ManRalf on April 11, 2012, 09:08:23 AM
Ah, thanks. But if postmodernity is dead and its view the elusiveness of meaning and knowledge with it. Does that make Dudeism as a remnant of postmoderinty or like some sort of bastillion of postmodern thinking or can it be precised as a new form of beast altogether?
Title: Re: Dudeism
Post by: Hominid on April 11, 2012, 09:38:02 AM
Hominid, so would you call yourself a true and blue postmodern man? You seem to live along the lines of partaking in the everexpanding postmodern "smorgasbord" trying a lil bit of this and a lil bit of this and knowing that is in your full right to move on if you don't like the particular spread.

Can't for the life in me remember who coined the phrase and theory or what it was really about but it was something about applying a sorta "what's in it for me" approach to life in general including religion. That it is a given that Joe twelvepack can move from being a snakehandler, dropping that when the thrill of blowing raspberries in the face of the reaper dies down and give holistic medicine a go.
Ya, you can't really fit me into any mold, so I do indeed pick and choose what works for me.  There's nuggets of gold here and there, often burried under trash.  I'm a lone wolf who rejects being forced into any of society's molds or stereotypes. One size does not fit all...
Title: Re: Dudeism
Post by: cckeiser on April 11, 2012, 12:09:42 PM
Lost my train of thought there for a moment, i was gonna ask you dudes if i have your permission to refer to your sage words in my paper?

We are posting to a public discussion board...I believe that puts it in public domain and can be used/quoted at will.
But that's just like my opinion dude. 8)
Title: Re: Dudeism
Post by: meekon5 on April 11, 2012, 12:48:28 PM
Lost my train of thought there for a moment, i was gonna ask you dudes if i have your permission to refer to your sage words in my paper?

We are posting to a public discussion board...I believe that puts it in public domain and can be used/quoted at will.
But that's just like my opinion dude. 8)

But it's always nice to be asked. ;D
Title: Re: Dudeism
Post by: cckeiser on April 11, 2012, 01:09:33 PM
Lost my train of thought there for a moment, i was gonna ask you dudes if i have your permission to refer to your sage words in my paper?


We are posting to a public discussion board...I believe that puts it in public domain and can be used/quoted at will.
But that's just like my opinion dude. 8)

But it's always nice to be asked. ;D

Yeah, I agree...it was real nice that he asked.;D
Sounds like a good man...and thorough. 8)
Title: Re: Dudeism
Post by: ManRalf on April 12, 2012, 07:41:43 AM
Of course i have to ask when if im gonna use the sage words of wiser fellows then myself...

Thanks for that link Meekon.

But would you call Dudeism a expression of the postmodern society or a part of pseudo-modernity? It was a kinda bleek take on society when it came to pseudo-modernity though.
Title: Re: Dudeism
Post by: Rev. RJ Dudemiester on July 12, 2012, 11:07:39 AM
I think it's quite Zen (and groovy) of Dudeism to the kind of religion (cause it is, according to the Dudely Lama's own words) that allows it's members to question/debate the very idea that Dudeism is (or isn't) a religion! Huzzah to that!
Title: Re: Dudeism
Post by: Hominid on July 20, 2012, 01:40:25 PM
this is not a religion dudes....get a grip

Somebody punt this dude....
Title: Re: Dudeism
Post by: cckeiser on July 20, 2012, 02:27:13 PM
He is not a dude dude....he's a fuckin' rug pisser. Even his email addy says trol! 8)
Title: Re: Dudeism
Post by: meekon5 on July 20, 2012, 03:51:46 PM
I removed him and banned him.
Title: Re: Dudeism
Post by: Hominid on July 20, 2012, 07:29:39 PM
I removed him and banned him.

I like dudes with big sticks.

Um - well - you know what I mean...
Title: Re: Dudeism
Post by: DigitalBuddha on October 06, 2012, 03:04:48 AM
I removed him and banned him.

I like dudes with big sticks.

Um - well - you know what I mean...

Johnson? ;D  You mean, vagina?
Title: Re: Dudeism
Post by: Leopoldrose on December 21, 2012, 07:30:25 PM
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Title: Re: Dudeism
Post by: TheMacDude on April 02, 2015, 06:15:10 PM
But would you call Dudeism a expression of the postmodern society or a part of pseudo-modernity? It was a kinda bleek take on society when it came to pseudo-modernity though.

Correct me if I am wrong, but I do not see Dudeism existing in a time period or in an age of thought. I see Dudeism as existing in all times and all places. All one must do is tap into his Dudeness, and he shall abide!
Title: Re: Dudeism
Post by: Miriam on April 18, 2015, 04:43:33 AM
Exactly. Just stop this kind of conversation. We are dudes. Thanks.
Title: Re: Dudeism
Post by: meekon5 on April 18, 2015, 10:25:18 AM
But would you call Dudeism a expression of the postmodern society or a part of pseudo-modernity? It was a kinda bleek take on society when it came to pseudo-modernity though.

Correct me if I am wrong, but I do not see Dudeism existing in a time period or in an age of thought. I see Dudeism as existing in all times and all places. All one must do is tap into his Dudeness, and he shall abide!

Exactly. Just stop this kind of conversation. We are dudes. Thanks.


Actually I think this kind of conversation is very important. Without discussion, and reasoned argument, we are not being asked to question what we are, and how we perceive our point of view.

Without that questioning how can we be sure of what we are. The mistake (IMHDO) of many other religions (or points of view) is not using the question "why", as a devotee you don't question (here I mean as many flavours of Christianity, as well as Islam, and others), you just accept.

By discussing and questioning we expand our understanding of what and where we are as a group.
Title: Re: Dudeism
Post by: Reverend Al on April 19, 2015, 01:48:03 AM
Actually I think this kind of conversation is very important. Without discussion, and reasoned argument, we are not being asked to question what we are, and how we perceive our point of view.

Without that questioning how can we be sure of what we are. The mistake (IMHDO) of many other religions (or points of view) is not using the question "why", as a devotee you don't question (here I mean as many flavours of Christianity, as well as Islam, and others), you just accept.

By discussing and questioning we expand our understanding of what and where we are as a group.

Mark it eight, Dudes; meekon5 is wise.  I believe in Dudeism, but I don't want to blindly follow along like a child walking into the middle of a movie with no frame of reference.  Dudeism as a somewhat organized belief is still in it's infancy, we Dudes have to come to some form of consensus about what it is and what it isn't, and the only way to do that is through constructive discussion.
Title: Re: Dudeism
Post by: Bradypus on July 18, 2015, 01:38:43 PM
Dudes have to come to some form of consensus about what it is and what it isn't, and the only way to do that is through constructive discussion.

Maybe there should be some "like" or "I may be wrong but I abide" button so I would not have to pollute the thread replying: it sounds very good to me...
Title: Re: Dudeism
Post by: ProudDogWeather on September 19, 2015, 12:56:06 AM
We all miss you CC let your posts live on
Title: Re: Dudeism
Post by: DoctorDude on December 08, 2015, 06:57:50 PM
Just wanted to share something with all you dudes. This is the story of the greatest and most unique Hoarder of all time. All her Buddha statutes really brought the mountain together. Enjoy the pictures! Share the story... And maybe we can get a giant Dude statue commissioned...

facebook.com/SaveTheTempleMountain
For the story: gofund.me/TempleMountain
Title: Re: Dudeism
Post by: DigitalBuddha on December 08, 2015, 09:38:41 PM
Just wanted to share something with all you dudes. This is the story of the greatest and most unique Hoarder of all time. All her Buddha statutes really brought the mountain together. Enjoy the pictures! Share the story... And maybe we can get a giant Dude statue commissioned...

facebook.com/SaveTheTempleMountain
For the story: gofund.me/TempleMountain

Looks like some kind of worthy Eastern thing, DoctorDude. Welcome to our beach community. Nice to have you on the lanes. Bars' over there, help yurself, mang!
Title: Re: Dudeism
Post by: PriorRestraint on December 09, 2015, 10:36:38 AM
Just wanted to share something with all you dudes. This is the story of the greatest and most unique Hoarder of all time. All her Buddha statutes really brought the mountain together. Enjoy the pictures! Share the story... And maybe we can get a giant Dude statue commissioned...

facebook.com/SaveTheTempleMountain
For the story: gofund.me/TempleMountain

Cool story, DocDude. Re: your handle -- are an MD/OD? I'm a shrink, and it'd be nice to have some more health care dudes around this rug. Anyway, take it easy...
Title: Re: Dudeism
Post by: The Guro on April 22, 2016, 05:04:42 AM
What an awesome post kicking off this thread!

The more I study and practice Dudeism... the more it parallels my experience in Jeet Kune Do... I could almost use the same words with JKD interposed and hear conversations I have had with Guro Dan Inosanto. Dudeism can be part of my JKD... JKD can be part of my Dudeism... The descriptor of the path is merely arbitrary.

Thanks,

DigitalBuddha
Title: Re: Dudeism
Post by: poppa Fabian on September 18, 2016, 06:51:58 PM
A rose by any other name would still be a religion.

As the communication of two humans is created so is dogma, if they are to function together. And so will what ever you would like to term this group.
A story like any other to gather around, and appreciate the message. The Dude and his ways created a unification which brought us here with (an assumption)with likened spirits and maybe "get in a few frames". In this, we must accept; to understand what it is to be Dude, we create and spread 'dogma'. It is its nature.
As Walter aggresses and fights the path of others for his own, his rationalizations cannot sway the dude because of 'the fucking toe'. The existence of which proves that others are being affected by this path so very undude. And even more to the point, it's ruining our ability to bowl!
A plight as old as the Buddha, or the idea of god itself, with all the glorified hype to ensure the viewers unification. A story to urge others a "better path". This is (i believe) an honourable trait, as manipulating as it may be.
The idea that this is based on a story, which we clearly understand as a potential analogy and not reality, is where the heart of Dudeism can be found. We are free of the fear based shroud of ignorance, and are much more realistic about realities and things that will not stand, man.
If I were to be the man for my time and place, well...i'll try to be Dude.
And so i say to my new friends..."have you got any milk?"
Title: Re: Dudeism
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Title: Re: Dudeism
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Title: Re: Dudeism
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Title: Re: Dudeism
Post by: ORDM on October 12, 2018, 02:58:35 PM
its no religion man its a way of thought and life, slow it all down and chill
Title: Re: Dudeism
Post by: BikerDude on October 18, 2018, 11:09:42 AM
I've started my own Ashram.
Right here.
In my cubicle.
It's a fucking Ashram!
Title: Dudeism and religion
Post by: JTM65 on November 18, 2018, 10:06:50 PM
I think many religions developed from philosophies originally, then someone came up with all the fairytale stuff to add to the push for new recruits. Buddhism particularly comes to mind. An apparently smart guy who realized he was an entitled child of wealth who then tried to share what he had figured out. Now they have different sects that fight over minutia that he would likely think foolish. If you are worried about Dudeism as a religion, then IMHO, you are missing my main attraction with it. It is not rule based, other than be happy, seize life and be kind. The greatest tenants I can think to live by. Buddha was right, want is the bane of contentment. When you learn to really enjoy the simple and regular moments of life, that is when you really learn to live.
Title: Re: Dudeism
Post by: Reverend Alves on November 12, 2019, 01:43:27 PM
Hello Dudes!

I came across you whilst listening to a podcast and had to get ordained.

Where do we stand on Dudeism being a recognised religion? I thought if there were at least 2000 followers it is a legitimate religion, no? After all, all religions are just big followings!