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Title: Boy Scout program
Post by: kilteddude on November 19, 2012, 09:00:10 PM
My boss, who is also an ordained minister here, and myself have been considering starting on a "religious emblem" program for the Boy Scouts.  We thought we'd see what the good dudes here thought of the idea.  It would include some basic information on Dudeism that would be expanded on as the scouts got to be older.  We would need to design some medals that they could be awarded as they make their way through the program.  What say the dudes here? 
Title: Re: Boy Scout program
Post by: DigitalBuddha on November 19, 2012, 09:26:23 PM
Quote from: kilteddude on November 19, 2012, 09:00:10 PM
My boss, who is also an ordained minister here, and myself have been considering starting on a "religious emblem" program for the Boy Scouts.  We thought we'd see what the good dudes here thought of the idea.  It would include some basic information on Dudeism that would be expanded on as the scouts got to be older.  We would need to design some medals that they could be awarded as they make their way through the program.  What say the dudes here? 
Far fuckin' out! A Boy Scout Troop of Dudes; I'm for it!

Idea; several levels of awards for "Troop 34 Achievers" or what-have-you troop.

(http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/7677/bsofa.jpg)

(http://img600.imageshack.us/img600/8306/awardw.jpg)
Title: Re: Boy Scout program
Post by: kilteddude on November 20, 2012, 06:37:32 PM
We've already started working on some ideas for possible medals for the little dudes.  Any idea who we contact to get permission to use some of the images from the site in the designs?
Title: Re: Boy Scout program
Post by: DigitalBuddha on November 20, 2012, 06:44:16 PM
Quote from: kilteddude on November 20, 2012, 06:37:32 PM
We've already started working on some ideas for possible medals for the little dudes.  Any idea who we contact to get permission to use some of the images from the site in the designs?

Yeah, contact ForumDude (the Dudely Lama), he would be the dude to discuss it with.
Title: Re: Boy Scout program
Post by: kilteddude on November 20, 2012, 06:49:08 PM
Thanks for the help man.  We'd love to get this off the ground.
Title: Re: Boy Scout program
Post by: DigitalBuddha on November 20, 2012, 07:01:44 PM
Quote from: kilteddude on November 20, 2012, 06:49:08 PM
Thanks for the help man.  We'd love to get this off the ground.

Far out, man. Sounds like a worthy achievement.
Title: Re: Boy Scout program
Post by: Masked Dude on November 20, 2012, 07:45:57 PM
I can help, if needed, with layout and other design. I had a similar idea for a fiction series I was working on but this sounds like something I'd get on board with!
Title: Re: Boy Scout program
Post by: meekon5 on November 21, 2012, 08:39:46 AM
See if they had had a Dudeship badge I would have stayed with them when i was ten instead of deciding it was too much of a fascist regime and not bothering after that.
Title: Re: Boy Scout program
Post by: Stever on November 21, 2012, 09:31:18 AM
Sounds like a fan-fucking-tastic idea!
Dudes,I have 2 daughters..what about some girl scout "Dude-ett" badges,and stuff?

I never thought of that idea,cuz all I think about is the famous line "We dont need no steekin badges!"....My mind works that way..must be an acid flashback,or something...
Title: Re: Boy Scout program
Post by: meekon5 on November 21, 2012, 10:49:13 AM
Quote from: Stever on November 21, 2012, 09:31:18 AM
Sounds like a fan-fucking-tastic idea!
Dudes,I have 2 daughters..what about some girl scout "Dude-ett" badges,and stuff?..

Point of order not "Dude-ett", not the accept nomenclature here (as keeper of the Crusade myself) a Dude is a Dude, is a Dude, independent of genitalia.

Much like Doctor or Actor (non-gender specific).
Title: Re: Boy Scout program
Post by: BikerDude on November 21, 2012, 12:13:12 PM
Also, let's not forget - let's not forget, Dude - that keeping wildlife, an amphibious rodent, for uh, domestic, you know, within the city - that ain't legal either
Title: Re: Boy Scout program
Post by: kilteddude on November 21, 2012, 01:01:20 PM
We actually just checked into it earlier today and discovered that the boy scouts and girl scouts both use the same criteria for this type of thing.  The only difference being that the boy scouts get medals and I believe the girl scouts would get patches.

Masked dude we may very well take you up on that.  We can handle the actual organizational part and have the imagination we need to come up with the ideas for medals and program, but our artistic talent is somewhat lacking.  I'm sure we'll need some help designing the certificates if nothing else.
Title: Re: Boy Scout program
Post by: milnie on November 21, 2012, 03:59:18 PM
What would the kids have to do to earn the medal/patch ?
Not to be too negative about your cool idea but not sure if the ethos of dudeism and the boy scouts are mutually comparable dudes
Title: Re: Boy Scout program
Post by: Masked Dude on November 22, 2012, 07:01:03 PM
It could be something as easy as a nomination for an award/medal/patch. It doesn't have to be earned per se, but sort of a list of possible achievements, your local adult-ish Dude says, hey, this little Dude did a good job at something, then tells the ones in charge, then BAM, Little Dude gets the achievement.

There are sites where you can get embroidered patches made, even some that are screen printed patches. The cost is a bit high, though. My idea for my other project was a little book you'd download, print up, and then put in stickers. Sort of like those books you can get from stores now with Tinkerbell and comic book characters, with a dotted line for a sticker... I hope I'm making sense.
Title: Re: Boy Scout program
Post by: Stever on November 23, 2012, 10:02:33 AM
" a little book you'd download, print up, and then put in stickers. Sort of like those books you can get from stores now with Tinkerbell and comic book characters, with a dotted line for a sticker."

I do think you are onto something there! I like that idea,dude!
Title: Re: Boy Scout program
Post by: Boston Rockbury on November 23, 2012, 01:04:46 PM
Quote from: kilteddude on November 19, 2012, 09:00:10 PM
My boss, who is also an ordained minister here, and myself have been considering starting on a "religious emblem" program for the Boy Scouts.  We thought we'd see what the good dudes here thought of the idea.  It would include some basic information on Dudeism that would be expanded on as the scouts got to be older.  We would need to design some medals that they could be awarded as they make their way through the program.  What say the dudes here? 
'The Dudeist Youth'?
Maybe we should invade Poland?
Title: Re: Boy Scout program
Post by: milnie on November 23, 2012, 02:36:54 PM
Isn't like an offence to put any non sanctioned sticker on your uniform? ;)
Ps does anyone know why my smileys aren't working when I post from the mobile version?
Title: Re: Boy Scout program
Post by: Boston Rockbury on November 23, 2012, 03:20:48 PM
Quote from: milnie on November 23, 2012, 02:36:54 PM
Isn't like an offence to put any non sanctioned sticker on your uniform? ;)
Ps does anyone know why my smileys aren't working when I post from the mobile version?
When things go wrong with your phone or computer just use the sacred Sanskrit chant 'om muni muni maha muni soha' 108 times. You can do it to any tune, but Sheena Easton's 'my baby works from 9 to 5' seems particularly effective. It will absorb your concentration totally so that by the time you have finished you will have forgotten the problem (expecially if you're stoned) - never fails.
Title: Re: Boy Scout program
Post by: milnie on November 23, 2012, 04:50:21 PM
Joint already in hand dude! :)
Title: Re: Boy Scout program
Post by: kilteddude on November 23, 2012, 05:56:15 PM
The way it is typically meant to work is as a means to help the lil dudes learn about other religions.  The typical starting point for kids in first or second grade is a coloring book of some sort.  From there at each level they typically are given a book that has a list of tasks that they need to complete that can range anywhere from simple readings to talking to someone that has been deemed "knowledgeable" in the religion.  There would also be an adult award that could be awarded to scoutmasters that can be either gotten through a similar process, or they could be nominated and interviewed by in this case a "council of dudes."
Title: Re: Boy Scout program
Post by: DigitalBuddha on November 23, 2012, 06:01:23 PM
Quote from: meekon5 on November 21, 2012, 10:49:13 AM
Point of order not "Dude-ett", not the accept nomenclature here (as keeper of the Crusade myself) a Dude is a Dude, is a Dude, independent of genitalia.

Much like Doctor or Actor (non-gender specific).

This is true; just as long as when I reach the for-mentioned genitalia (in the process of helping my lady friends conceive, man), it doesn't turn out to be a Johnson. If that were the case; the god damn plane would have crash into the mountain! :o  ;D
Title: Re: Boy Scout program
Post by: Masked Dude on November 23, 2012, 09:03:03 PM
Quote from: kilteddude on November 23, 2012, 05:56:15 PM
The way it is typically meant to work is as a means to help the lil dudes learn about other religions.  The typical starting point for kids in first or second grade is a coloring book of some sort. [...] talking to someone that has been deemed "knowledgeable" in the religion.

I feel that a Dudeist Youth scout type thing would be sort of like that. If you're looking at a serious youth program, here's my $0.02:

Little Dudes nowadays have so much to worry about. Girls worry about being skinny, boys worry about being muscular and athletic. They worry about growing up too early. They worry about grades. They worry if any peers don't like the kid over there who's Hindu, Jewish, Zoroastrian, or undecided. They worry about choosing clothes or hating school uniforms. They worry about having zits/spots, braces, scars, funny walks, and so on.

Maybe a little dudes program would teach them more than tolerance. Tolerance for others, but mostly tolerance for themselves. Hell, they have so much to worry about, so sometimes they need to say "Fuck it!" (or whatever their parents would let them say) They need to accept each other for all their weird little idiosyncracies and accept themselves for their own freakishness. You like comic books and your friend doesn't? Fuck it, read them anyway. Your friend likes Justin Bieber and you don't? Fuck it, let your friend listen anyway. Your friend wants to get an illegal tattoo? Fuck it, it's their skin. Et cetera.

We're all part of this big weird stew we call Earth, and we could do a lot of good teaching the little dudes that. And they could have a lot of fun in the process.
Title: Re: Boy Scout program
Post by: kilteddude on November 23, 2012, 09:32:07 PM
Masked Dude you've basically hit the nail on the head as far as what we are hoping to accomplish with getting this whole deal off the ground.  I'm sure there will be lots of headaches and bumps along the way to getting it really going, but I think in the end it could be well worth it. 
It seems to me that many of the concepts that you can find being talked about here among the Dudeists are things that are just as important as anything you could hope to learn from a traditional religion, but in many cases more readily applicable to our daily lives.
Title: Re: Boy Scout program
Post by: forumdude on November 23, 2012, 09:37:23 PM
I love the idea, but it just seems as if the Boy Scouts would have rules about what kinds of patches and programs they would allow. Probably need to check with the BS league office on that one.

I can put you in touch with my patch people here in Thailand - they're much cheaper than americanpatch.com or other US based companies.

I'm hoping that Abide University will eventually have youth programs to help teach kids not to worry about peer pressure so much and also to teach them "meta-learning" so that they can learn more efficiently in school. Maybe in the future there would be Dudeist "sunday schools" (or maybe more like hebrew schools, which they could attend a few times a week after normal school) that would give them the leg up on their peers by teaching rationality, meditation, methods of grokking subjects more quickly, organizational (or disorganizational) skills, creative brainstorming, etc.
Title: Re: Boy Scout program
Post by: kilteddude on November 23, 2012, 09:49:47 PM
We had that concern at first as well as to whether or not they would allow a program like this.  We've discovered though that since the programs are run by the people representing the religion and not by the scouts as an organization the exact content is left up to the discretion of those that set-up the program, within reason that is.  In fact the dude I'm working with on this has already been admitted to his local interfaith council as a representative of Dudeism.  Once we get a little further along in our design we will certainly be looking for a good, affordable way to make all this happen so we would be glad to have any contact information for possible sources.
Title: Re: Boy Scout program
Post by: BikerDude on November 26, 2012, 12:41:27 PM
I didn't make this up. Boy Scout monument.

(http://www.boerner.net/jboerner/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/Boy_Scout_Monument_thumb2.jpg)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boy_Scout_Memorial (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boy_Scout_Memorial)
Title: Re: Boy Scout program
Post by: Boston Rockbury on November 26, 2012, 12:48:50 PM
Quote from: BikerDude on November 26, 2012, 12:41:27 PM
I didn't make this up. Boy Scout monument.

(http://www.boerner.net/jboerner/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/Boy_Scout_Monument_thumb2.jpg)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boy_Scout_Memorial (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boy_Scout_Memorial)
That's quite a well known statue. It's called "The Golden Dildo"