If Clinton Wins, Evacuate America or Die.

[SagebrushSage]

Here's a few minutes of Clinton's own public statements, with some commentary. Hillary Clinton, in 2016, has called for military responses to the DNC hacks/leaks, which she blames on Russia, and for a more aggressive nuclear posture. Listen for yourself. If Clinton wins, evacuate or die.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y0U0wGAlpgM

[SagebrushSage]

Watched the third debate live. Hillary Clinton just shared one the topmost of our top secrets, our response time from order to launch of nuclear ICBM's, during the debate. It's four minutes. I'm sure that they do drills for this, so the expected time required to carry out a nuclear order must be known with some certainty. Clinton would have been informed of this while she was Secretary of State.

This information has never been divulged before by any official state source. Naturally, the number will not be confirmed or denied. There are articles online that give values near this number, but always from original research, never an official, cabinet-level source.

Clinton is utterly incompetent, and is agitating for war with Russia. Again, if Hillary Clinton wins, evacuate or die.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FNQcnTSkDQA

[Brother D]

We're fucked, you're fucked, they (warmongers and the corrupted) can get fucked!

To conquer the world, take It easy.
If you must do something,
Do a J
And let the world conquer itself.

Dude de Ching 48:3

[thevideoartist]

Here's a few minutes of Clinton's own public statements, with some commentary. Hillary Clinton, in 2016, has called for military responses to the DNC hacks/leaks, which she blames on Russia, and for a more aggressive nuclear posture. Listen for yourself. If Clinton wins, evacuate or die.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y0U0wGAlpgM

Evacuate to where?  If your fears are indeed founded in reality, a nuclear conflict with Russia would end up leaving the planet scorched.  I don't think there's anything we could really do about it.  Elect Trump and he'll fire nukes at a 12 year old on twitter who says he has tiny hands... Elect Hilary and you've gotta deal with her style of doing things, which isn't always strictly legal or diplomatic... elect a 3rd party and it'd be nice but who knows.  I'm thinking though, we got Hilary and Trump because too many people made decisions based on fear instead of logic.  I don't think being scared, even if it's true, is going to lead to anything better in the world.

Nothing is fucked here dude... Whatever happens.  We abided that situation in Iraq, we abided that business in Korea with the chinamen, we abided Vietnam where there were no rules... we can abide whatever happens next.

[SagebrushSage]

Yeah, there are a few approval layers in between the president ordering nukes and the nukes actually being fired. Neither Trump nor Clinton can destroy the world single-handedly. Also, trees and rocks everywhere admire Putin for his steadiness and even temperament. Why do I keep forgetting these things?

Eh. That's all I was concerned about. Sorry for getting PO'd at hearing a former cabinet member divulge beyond-top-secret classified information as a minor talking point on live TV. That sort of thing tends to be a bit alarming to us accountants and former accountants. My original career goal was to become a Certified Information Systems Auditor. I studied at college for 7 years as part of learning to audit computer security protocols, so the fact that Clinton is still considered a viable presidential candidate has been a bit disturbing to me.

[thevideoartist]

Nothing to be sorry about man.  I just feel for you, it all sucks.  I know it's been tough for me to stay calm with this crazy election cycle, especially living in DC and working in media (not the mass media... I'll never touch news again, but I have filmed interviews with both these main candidates for special interest groups).  It's dumbfounding how stupid politics is.  It's truly become a game of appealing to the lowest common denominator votes and trying to look like the least corrupt of two essentially awful choices.  Standing in a room with either of them with a limber mind you realize they're both just really good at manipulating their target audience and it has little or nothing to do with what'll happen after they're in office.  It's just a game man, sucks that the pieces are millions of people and the players are sociopaths but it is just a game.

But at the end of the day I just had to start reminding myself, my life to date has not changed significantly one way or the other because of who's in office and as a white, straight male it probably won't.  Also I have to remember that if we end up in some sort of major conflict that ends up on our soil, I'm close enough to the capital that I'll be vaporized long before I could even give a shit.  So why give a shit?  Life goes on until it doesn't and if it doesn't then all our fucking troubles are over dude.

Now if we could just get the christians to actually believe that too... after all they are the ones who believe they get sweet digs and perfect bodies after death and rewards for whatever they suffer on earth, I don't know why they seem to be the ones most terrified of losing their cushy place of control in the world.  But now I'm off topic completely.

Anyways, take 'er easy dude.  There's no right or wrong way to feel about things but fretting about the shit we don't have control over is just exhausting.  I wish you the chillest of days dude.

[SagebrushSage]

A storm is composed of many raindrops. The common people, acting collectively, can accomplish great things.

Fear leads to paranoia. Paranoia leads to isolation. Isolation enables the wealthy and powerful to divide and conquer the people. This community can help to wash away the fear that grips us. Empowered by calm, the diverse and divided populace can make better decisions and work together for the common good.

[SagebrushSage]

Oh, if anyone thinks that I'm crazy for warning of nuclear war, the possibility of nuclear war is being openly discussed on Russian state television. Here's a recent clip from a prominent opinion show:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UL0jwhgJ4bw

And a humorous clip showing the Russians' disregard for Clinton:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ooz2pTd8kTU

Here are some recent statements on Russian state television directly from Putin about the matter:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xHGCJXmzIdY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kqD8lIdIMRo

I'm not frikkin' delusional. Maybe I'm overreacting, but I'm not conjuring this opinion out of thin air. Thank goodness that Trump seems to be winning by a landslide. Even the DNC's best efforts at electoral fraud may not be enough to keep him out of office.

[Reverend Al]

...the fact that Clinton is still considered a viable presidential candidate has been a bit disturbing to me.

The fact that either Clinton or Trump are still considered to be viable Presidential candidates is disturbing to me.  She's a politically polished iceberg who knows how to "play" the system, and he's an egotistical 70-year-old child who cares only about money.  These are the best people we could find to represent our country???  It's no wonder the rest of the world thinks America is populated by morons.

[forumdude]

If people start posting hysterical political hyperbole like this we're going to impose a political posts ban here as well (we've already done so on our facebook groups). Sorry, but this kind of stuff always makes everything very divisive and undude.

[SagebrushSage]

It's not hyperbole. I am merely saying what Gorbachev is saying. But believe what you like.

[Jianblade]

Calmer than you are...

[Brother D]

Wait, Forum Dude was here? Is this a...what day is this?
Far out, El Duderino!
Say, what's going on man, I wondered when we'd see you again.

[Reverend R]

Hillary is super corrupt, im not sure saying she stepped over the line can be said because of something of this magnitude. But hey dudes we got hope if she is elected it would give us a chance to make our own country if America falls to Nihilist. That would be pretty nice now that of it, Oatsoda and Big Lebowski all day, that would be nice....

[LotsaBadKarma]

It's dumbfounding how stupid politics is.  It's truly become a game of appealing to the lowest common denominator votes and trying to look like the least corrupt of two essentially awful choices.  Standing in a room with either of them with a limber mind you realize they're both just really good at manipulating their target audience and it has little or nothing to do with what'll happen after they're in office.  It's just a game man, sucks that the pieces are millions of people and the players are sociopaths but it is just a game.

See, I had the opposite opinion. I think that our political process is a work of genius. Not that the individual players are any smarter than those of us out here in the warrior wasteland but that the system itself has got us figured out. They play on our basest emotions, fear, hatred, anger and they do a spectacular job of it. Over decades they have reasoned that they can throw in the occasional religious comment or remind us of who we are supposed to hate or throw another wedge issue into the public square that will keep us all fighting with each other. The biggest fear that they have is a united proletariat, all of us out here in tv and shopping land coming together and thinking, more or less, as one. It seems like every time I see some promise that the people are starting to pull it together something new comes up for us to argue about and the public at large doesn't possess any longer the ability to discern beef from bullshit. Our current election cycle shows me that we have played right into their hands. 30 or 40 years of voting for the lesser of two evils has gotten us to this point and we have been conditioned to believe that we don't have the right to demand more from the system. 330 million people in this country of which probably one third to one half are of legal age to run for president and this is what we end up with?