Salvia Divinorum

[hannahdude]

After loads of research i.e. www.salvia.net I decided to prepare a little 'vision quest' with Salvia.
The timing is right and hopefully, sinceI am ready to see the vastness of the universe at my mature age, I will catch some glimpses of the mundane in a new light. It seems every 20 years I feel the new for a psychotropic injection to cleanse out the cobwebs. I'd like to think the dude would approve.

[Ynot Dude]

Please keep us posted, I'd love to take another carpet ride myself.

[His Dudeliness, Chase]

I've tried Salvia a few times, ya know, to keep my brain limber.

It's a great time. I had mild hallucinations, but the phsyiological sensations is a really zesty enterprise for sure.

[mrpaddy]

After loads of research i.e. www.salvia.net I decided to prepare a little 'vision quest' with Salvia.
The timing is right and hopefully, sinceI am ready to see the vastness of the universe at my mature age, I will catch some glimpses of the mundane in a new light. It seems every 20 years I feel the new for a psychotropic injection to cleanse out the cobwebs. I'd like to think the dude would approve.

Happy journeys, dude. Salvia was one of the few psychoactive plants I never really got on with... But I know many who have partaken and enjoyed. Let us know if you see anything interesting up there in the great beyond.

Oh, I think I left some slippers up there last time I visited, let me know if you see them. They're dark red and velvetty.

[BikerDude]

Be careful.
I'm not one to buy all the horror stories about drugs but there are many of them with Salvia.

http://www.sfgate.com/opinion/article/A-Salvia-divinorum-horror-story-3186276.php

I've actually heard the it's more dangerous than LSD.
And way more than mescaline.
Way way way more than shrooms.

[jgiffin]

http://www.sfgate.com/opinion/article/A-Salvia-divinorum-horror-story-3186276.php

Yeah, that's scary. Kinda like the bath salt stories that circulated a while back. I found this, too: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brett%27s_law

I'm no doctor, let alone a gastroenterologist, but the physiological effects mentioned in the SFgate article seem more akin to radiologic enteritis or some other chronic component than the result of smoking a joint laced with this stuff. I'd be interested to see if she had a perforated bowel, was treated for Wilm's tumor, or had some other relevant history. It sounds like salvia is primarily psychoactive, although anti-motility is also referenced. Still, anti-motility and a diseased bowel are pretty far apart. Plus, smoking the stuff is supposed to be the least effective mechanism. Never tried it so I dunno.

This part also scares me: "Despite large doses of intravenously and intramuscularly administered anti-psychotic drugs, she remained highly psychotic, with disordered thinking, delusions, and slow speech." I'd be as suspicious of those drugs as salvia.

Hannahdude, what was the experience like? Are you still...uhm...you know, making number two?

[Masked Dude]

The part about previous psych problems possibly causing adverse reactions caught my eye. I'm pretty fucked up sober, and that's one of the reasons I've never smoked salvia or a J. I always joke that I'm fucked up enough now, can you imagine me on some good shit?

[hannahdude]

you guys.......
so, i smoked a bowl of it, and nothing happened. well, i felt a little stoned maybe for a few minutes, but really nothing.
im gonna try it again. same dose, basically a big pinch in a small one hitter type pipe.
i am not worried, then again i have not read that article posted from sfgate.

[BikerDude]

I think the bottom line is for me I'd balance my information.
Taking advice about Salvia from Salvia.net or whatever is bound to be a bit one sided.
It appears to be very popular in England taken by one in ten college students according to this article.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/education/universityeducation/student-life/9643077/Salvia-the-dangerous-legal-drug-taken-by-one-in-ten-students.html

That would make me suspicious of horror stories but there are a lot of them.
Youtube has a lot of videos of people smoking salvia and some are not very encouraging.
Personally if these are real I just don't see the appeal of rendering myself as helpless as the people in the vids. And I grew up in the 70's. I'm not unfamiliar with psychedelic drugs.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HqvBX-3WD2U

[hannahdude]

Just to put this to rest for anyone curious. I will NOT be trying the Salvia again after all. I tried pot today, after many years of not smoking it as I never really liked it and one hit of weed induced such existential angst I will NEVER do it again. So if I can't handle pot, for Dude's sake, I best not push my luck with anything else! Darnit. Guess I will have to rely on the occasional acid flashback.

[BikerDude]

Just to put this to rest for anyone curious. I will NOT be trying the Salvia again after all. I tried pot today, after many years of not smoking it as I never really liked it and one hit of weed induced such existential angst I will NEVER do it again. So if I can't handle pot, for Dude's sake, I best not push my luck with anything else! Darnit. Guess I will have to rely on the occasional acid flashback.

Just an FYI not all weed is equal.
The hyped up paranoid thing is mostly a facet of Sativa's.
A nice dank Indica will feed your mellow quite nicely.
But all in all if it's not your thing leave it be.
Have an oat soda or a tasty beverage.