Ancient Aliens Dudes Debunked

[DigitalBuddha]

Ancient Aliens Dudes Debunked

Ancient Aliens Debunked is a 3 hour refutation of the theories proposed on the History Channel series Ancient Aliens. It is essentially a point by point critique of the "ancient astronaut theory" which has been proposed by people like Erich von D?niken and Zecharia Sitchin as well as many others.

The film covers topics like:
Ancient building sites: Puma Punku, The Pyramids, Baalbek, Incan sites, And Easter Island. Ancient artifacts: Pacal's rocket, the Nazca lines, the Tolima "fighter jets", the Egyptian "light bulb", Ufo's in ancient art, and the crystal skulls. Ancient text issues: Ezekiel's wheel, Ancient nuclear warfare, Vimana's, the Anunnaki, and the Nephilim.

Mark it zero!  - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j9w-i5oZqaQ&feature=g-vrec

[Boston Rockbury]

i guess that the aliens who landed at roswell couldn't have developed their super-sophisticated technology overnight so they have probably been around for a long time. Not so sure about the crystal skulls though. I've got a feeling that's a load of crap. Some people get into all sorts of weird flights of imagination based on very little real evidence. Crop circles probably all fake too - but the Nazca lines definately alien, even my brother agrees with that, and he's an accountant.

[DigitalBuddha]

i guess that the aliens who landed at roswell couldn't have developed their super-sophisticated technology overnight so they have probably been around for a long time. Not so sure about the crystal skulls though. I've got a feeling that's a load of crap. Some people get into all sorts of weird flights of imagination based on very little real evidence. Crop circles probably all fake too - but the Nazca lines definately alien, even my brother agrees with that, and he's an accountant.

I always wondered how a bunch of super smart aliens who can fly through vast distances of space (and maybe even time) would come all this way and be so stupid as to crash in the desert and kill themselves. Maybe an alien version of a DUI? The stupid fucks; can't even find reverse in a flying saucer!

[Zen Dog]

The Nazca lines are just astrological images for the culture.Like the pyramids,the people were trying to recreate heaven on Earth.It amazes me that people are in awe  of evangelists in this day and age but can't seem to understand that their ancestors were just as devout.Imagine trying to tell some Mormon/JW/whatever who comes to your door that their deity was a forerunner of Neil Armstrong.

[DigitalBuddha]

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[Boston Rockbury]

The Nazca lines are just astrological images for the culture.Like the pyramids,the people were trying to recreate heaven on Earth.It amazes me that people are in awe  of evangelists in this day and age but can't seem to understand that their ancestors were just as devout.Imagine trying to tell some Mormon/JW/whatever who comes to your door that their deity was a forerunner of Neil Armstrong.

Something the Raelians or Scientologists would be quite happy to accept though.
So, just to be clear, we're saying that the Nazca Lines are NON-alien right? I'm happy to accept your judgement if you're really sure.
It's not as easy as I thought to work out what is alien and what isn't. Perhaps our two cultures have shared ideas for so long that the dividing line of human and alien is a bit of a grey area. It would make perfect sense that the "astrological images" could have been important to people travelling through space. I know that's me speculating and not proven as fact yet but I just think it's good to keep an open mind.

I thought about joining the Raelians but then found out that they are really in favour of GM food - crazy!

[Caesar dude]

The Nazca lines are one of the easiest ancient mysteries to replicate.

You just need a large piece of flat land (ie the Nazca plateau ) and a pantograph

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pantograph No aliens or hot air balloons involved

They were probably used for ceremonial walking and chanting but who really knows?

[Boston Rockbury]

That just can't be right dude. It says in Wiki that the first pantygraph was made in 1603 but that the nazca lines lines were made between 400and 650AD. So the technology was not yet available on this planet, which really only leaves one logical explanation.

[Caesar dude]

I think we should give our ancestors a lot more credit than we do.

The Greeks made this http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/blog/2008/dec/11/antikythera-first-computer 2000 years ago.

And somehow or other the South Americans invented corn! 7000 years ago

The domestication of maize is of particular interest to researchers ? archaeologists, geneticists, ethnobotanists, geographers, etc. The process is thought by some to have started 7,500 to 12,000 years ago. Research from the 1950s to 1970s originally focused on the hypothesis that maize domestication occurred in the highlands between Oaxaca and Jalisco, because the oldest archaeological remains of maize known at the time were found there. Genetic studies led by John Doebley identified Zea mays ssp. parviglumis, native to the Balsas River valley and also known as Balsas teosinte, as being the crop wild relative teosinte genetically most similar to modern maize.[31] However, archaeobotanical studies published in 2009 now point to the lowlands of the Balsas River valley, where stone milling tools with maize residue have been found in a 8,700-years old layer of deposits.[32][33][34] A primitive corn was being grown in southern Mexico, Central America, and northern South America 7,000 years ago. Archaeological remains of early maize ears, found at Guila Naquitz Cave in the Oaxaca Valley, date back roughly 6,250 years; the oldest ears from caves near Tehuacan, Puebla, date ca. 3,450 BC.[35] Little change occurred in ear form until ca. 1100 BC when great changes appeared in ears from Mexican caves: maize diversity rapidly increased and archaeological teosinte was first deposited.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maize

I don't think it would have been beyond the Nazca people to scratch a few lines on the desert floor.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazca_culture

No aliens involved.

[Boston Rockbury]

This is why it's such a difficult subject. I read your posts and they are very well reasoned and convincing and to be honest it's a relief just to feel that the subject is decided and closed. Then, stupidly I go and talk to my brother, sort of expecting him to agree even though he's a lot cleverer than me and he talks me back round to the alien explanation. So I'm not going to post what he just said to me because we're just going round in circles. It's complicated when a member of your family has actually seen an alien because they take it personally if you argue against them. So it's better just to let it lie.

[milnie]

Wait, you brother has seen an alien or the alien are pissed for not getting the credit :)

[Caesar dude]

a member of your family has actually seen an alien

He's met my ex then!! ? 

[Stever]

The Nazca Lines of Peru were discovered in the 1930s, which, coincidentally enough, was right around the time people started flying planes high enough to see them. Much like the time we tried to confess our love to Cindy Lansmoore in 10-foot-high flaming letters on her lawn, ancient man, too, had a thing for crazy imagery that could only be seen from above. The Nazca Lines are large geoglyphs made of shallow lines dug into the earth, revealing the white ground beneath the red rocks that normally cover the area. Some are as large as 900 feet across, and the entire canvas area is about 190 square miles total, or slightly larger than the city of New Orleans.

Read more: http://www.cracked.com/article_19205_10-famous-unsolved-mysteries-easily-explained-by-science.html#ixzz2D5qWmKiu

[Boston Rockbury]

Wait, you brother has seen an alien or the alien are pissed for not getting the credit

Yeah sorry dude, I didn't express that very clearly. Bob doesn't talk about his alien encounter outside of the family because he has a very responsible position as financial director of a pharmaceutical company and he feels his alien experience might discredit him. It's strange because he is normally super-open, even with strangers, and is quite happy to chat about his sex-change for example. It's important to Bob that he is trusted by the people closest to him, expecially after he showed us the pieces of alien technology that he won't even let the government see.