I forgot how good the Beatles really were

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DigitalBuddha


Rev. Gary (revgms)

Wot? How can you forget that, now go limber up and try again. lol

meekon5

This is a point for some debate, a lot of ins and outs in this one .

I was brought up by an ex-teddy girl (yes my mum was a teddy girl at one time) who adored The Stones, The Beatles, etc a lot of good music.

When at school we were heavily indoctrinated that the Beatles were "Revolutionary" in their use of classical instruments, and their song structure.

I do have friends who don't rate them, because they were very much men for their time (Old revolutionaries become todays reactionaries).

Much like Elvis (The King) Presley. A white man singing black mens music, what was the world coming to? My grandfather (May the gods rest his insane bones, bless him) was appalled by these long haired (yes long haired) Liverpudlian Layabouts.

My generation and the further fruits of our loins will never fully understand what the post war generation went through to allow us to be able to walk the streets in our Genuine Stretch Levis.

On the other hand certain groups though incredible innovative in their time do date to modern taste and styles.

Yes they were very good for their time, and those of us that hang memories upon their music will still remember the first glow of discovery, but those of us who had them thrust upon us consider them less geniuses more unwanted home work I'm afraid.

;D
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Rev. Ed C

I'm not a personal fan (although I do love George Harrison, when the mood takes me), but yeah, no denying what boundaries they pushed.  Unlike today's manufactured boy bands they had something new to say on top of their manager raking in the baksheesh and tried really hard to open minds to things outside of what was acceptable in musical influence over the listener.  Of course, like most manufactured boy bands, they had issues with lineup, and now Stuart Sutcliffe and Pete Best get pretty much no credit for anything.

I always found it a shame that some of these guys couldn't really stay true to some of the Dudely ideals they dabbled with, and in the end the two who are still with us aren't really model dudes.  I hate to say it, but I think Ringo is a damned faker when it comes to is poorly overenforced message of "Peace & Love".

Miss John, miss George and shame I missed the revolution as it happened.
Sometimes the man can transcend his music, which helps if you're not a fan of the tunes, you can still dig the philosophy, as I do :)
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4weeddude

#4
Big fan I' am I guess you had to be there ............. I was............. and music (pre-Beatle) was black and white (just like television was at that time) John Kennedy had just been murdered and the world was boring (except for the cold war) here comes The Beatles upbeat fresh sound ..... they were and still are very good......

I have been knowen to par-take

4weeddude

#5
OK I' am going to fess up ...... I like them so much I have the worlds greatest Mini LP CD collection in the world hands down ........ yep I do........ this is just a few of the four hundred mini LP CD's I have of the Beatles...

I have been knowen to par-take

Rev. Ed C

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cakebelly

#7
On the other hand certain groups though incredible innovative in their time do date to modern taste and styles.

Yes they were very good for their time, and those of us that hang memories upon their music will still remember the first glow of discovery, but those of us who had them thrust upon us consider them less geniuses more unwanted home work I'm afraid.


;D Very well put - I don't have anything to add to that . . huh, what's wrong with me?  ;)

DigitalBuddha

4weeddude, now that is one hell of a collection!

meekon5

4weeddude that's quite a collection, I see a few there my Mum had (but hers were all original vinyl). ;D
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Stephen Hawking

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BikerDude

Always  been a Stones fan myself.
The Beatles have their moments  but personally I find that certain segments of the career have not held up over time.
The early mop top stuff for me is just unbearable. I mean the "Love me do" and "Wanna hold yer hand" stuff.
And the psychedelic middle period stuff is for me a snapshot of a time and place.
That leaves the segue periods like Revolver and then Abby Road and White album.
Which are truly great.


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DigitalBuddha

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Quote from: meekon5 on August 16, 2011, 06:12:59 AM
4weeddude that's quite a collection, I see a few there my Mum had (but hers were all original vinyl). ;D

I hate to admit it, but I myself have a vinyl album or two laying around (nothing to be ashamed of, it's just that I don't own a working turntable).

On that note, I recently asked a 17 year old if he knew what an "LP" or a "45" was? I was given a bewildered stair back at me resembling something like..... "? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? huh ? ? ? ? ? ? a what?" I wasn't too disappointed; this kid thought Neil Armstrong was "a president around when Kennedy was shot or got in that accident in ahhh Arkansas by that communist guy in ahhh 1960 or something."

When I asked him what the Bill of Rights were, he answered "That is that thing Obama is working on, isn't it?"

Dude help us all!!

4weeddude

I had all the Vinyl but I like the CD format for a couple of reasons ...... space is a big one ..... sound is another.
Quote from: meekon5 on August 16, 2011, 06:12:59 AM
4weeddude that's quite a collection, I see a few there my Mum had (but hers were all original vinyl). ;D
I have been knowen to par-take

meekon5

We had to physically hold my godson down when he came round and saw a Bob Dylan record playing on my old stacking system. I can  not explain the look of bewilderment and his urge to touch the spinny music thing.

But with his father and myself standing on his head I think he got the idea.
"I have noticed even people who claim everything is predestined, and  that we can do nothing to change it, look before they cross the road."
Stephen Hawking

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4weeddude

Yeah sometimes I need to be held down while listening to Bob Dylan always when the disc is spinning. Love me some Dylan.
Quote from: meekon5 on August 17, 2011, 05:16:34 AM
We had to physically hold my godson down when he came round and saw a Bob Dylan record playing on my old stacking system. I can  not explain the look of bewilderment and his urge to touch the spinny music thing.

But with his father and myself standing on his head I think he got the idea.
I have been knowen to par-take