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LotsaBadKarma

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Is this treason?
« on: April 19, 2015, 09:17:28 AM »

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Re: Is this treason?
« Reply #1 on: April 19, 2015, 10:02:53 AM »
Far from it

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Re: Is this treason?
« Reply #2 on: April 19, 2015, 02:45:44 PM »
How so?

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Re: Is this treason?
« Reply #3 on: April 19, 2015, 05:27:29 PM »
The question is; is this aggression that will not stand, man?

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Re: Is this treason?
« Reply #4 on: April 20, 2015, 06:28:53 AM »
How so?


Man , come on who are you gonna believe, those guys or ... Look , man, i've got certain information. All right ? Certain things have come to light and ... you know has it ever occured to you that, instead of you know, running around blaming NAFTA . you know given the nature of all this new shit... y..yo...you know this could be a lot more uhhh complex.. I mean , it's not just a ... It might not be just such a simple uhh you know ?

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Re: Is this treason?
« Reply #5 on: April 20, 2015, 11:13:50 AM »
How so?


Man , come on who are you gonna believe, those guys or ... Look , man, i've got certain information. All right ? Certain things have come to light and ... you know has it ever occured to you that, instead of you know, running around blaming NAFTA . you know given the nature of all this new shit... y..yo...you know this could be a lot more uhhh complex.. I mean , it's not just a ... It might not be just such a simple uhh you know ?

Well put, sir. Now, get a job, sir.

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Re: Is this treason?
« Reply #6 on: April 20, 2015, 03:50:40 PM »
Employed?  Is this a...what day is this?
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Re: Is this treason?
« Reply #7 on: April 20, 2015, 06:58:52 PM »
Fuck it, I'm going bowling. 8)

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Re: Is this treason?
« Reply #8 on: April 20, 2015, 11:19:44 PM »
When I click the link, I just get an "Unable to Access Network." Treasonous content? Well, I dunno: let's contemplate some navels.

If I were paranoid, I'd say the link is a decoy and the NSA now has me on a list for attempting to look at something ostensibly treasonous.

If I were slightly more paranoid, I'd say the NSA blocked the site from my computer so I can't further my treasonous tendencies.




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Re: Is this treason?
« Reply #9 on: April 21, 2015, 08:55:34 AM »
I assume you are referring to the "Fast Track Trade Bill"? Actually a fast track for the Trans-Pacific Partnership.
For me it shows who is running the show.
The financial services part of the economy seems to be in charge for sure.
Even the vestiges of American manufacturing seem to be left out in the cold, right along with Unions.
http://www.aflcio.org/Issues/Trade/Fast-Track-Legislation
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Legislators have introduced a bill that is bad for democracy and bad for America. The Fast Track legislation (S. 1900 and H.R. 3830), introduced by Sens. Max Baucus (D-Mont.) and Orrin Hatch (R-Utah) and Rep. Dave Camp (R-Mich.), would establish a process that allows no amendments and limited debate on such trade deals as the Trans-Pacific Partnership. Once legislators have the Fast Track ticket in their hands, they are free to agree to provisions that will send jobs overseas, reduce the bargaining power of workers, jeopardize health and safety regulations and gives corporations more control over our economy and our trading partners' economies. ACCESS THE DIGITAL TOOLKIT

Fast Track legislation allowed the North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA) to be rammed through Congress with weak labor and environmental side deals. Since NAFTA went into effect in 1994, North American workers have experienced downward pressure on wages and a tougher organizing environment. Twenty years later, we find an unbalanced system in which profits soar even as workers take home a diminishing share of the national income.

More recent trade deals, like the World Trade Organization trade deal, had no labor or environmental standards at all. And other Fast Track trade deals have included Colombia, a country in which nearly 3,000 labor leaders and activists have been killed since 1986, and Korea?a country with which our trade deficit is already rising, and which, under the very low standards of the deal, can receive tariff benefits for cars that contain only 35% Korean content.

To really have trade deals with high standards, the American public must have more say?and that means no Fast Track authority from Congress.

The Baucus-Hatch-Camp- bill would do nothing to fix the U.S. trade deficit or grow the middle class. In fact, it would interfere with important health and safety regulations, ensure the primacy of investor rights over labor rights and boost profits and incomes for global corporations and the top 1%. But it will shrink the paychecks of working families and make it less likely that America?s children can climb the ladder of success.
« Last Edit: April 21, 2015, 09:02:15 AM by BikerDude »

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Re: Is this treason?
« Reply #10 on: April 21, 2015, 09:11:56 AM »
I assume you are referring to the "Fast Track Trade Bill"? Actually a fast track for the Trans-Pacific Partnership.
For me it shows who is running the show.
The financial services part of the economy seems to be in charge for sure.
Even the vestiges of American manufacturing seem to be left out in the cold, right along with Unions.
http://www.aflcio.org/Issues/Trade/Fast-Track-Legislation
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Legislators have introduced a bill that is bad for democracy and bad for America. The Fast Track legislation (S. 1900 and H.R. 3830), introduced by Sens. Max Baucus (D-Mont.) and Orrin Hatch (R-Utah) and Rep. Dave Camp (R-Mich.), would establish a process that allows no amendments and limited debate on such trade deals as the Trans-Pacific Partnership. Once legislators have the Fast Track ticket in their hands, they are free to agree to provisions that will send jobs overseas, reduce the bargaining power of workers, jeopardize health and safety regulations and gives corporations more control over our economy and our trading partners' economies. ACCESS THE DIGITAL TOOLKIT

Fast Track legislation allowed the North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA) to be rammed through Congress with weak labor and environmental side deals. Since NAFTA went into effect in 1994, North American workers have experienced downward pressure on wages and a tougher organizing environment. Twenty years later, we find an unbalanced system in which profits soar even as workers take home a diminishing share of the national income.

More recent trade deals, like the World Trade Organization trade deal, had no labor or environmental standards at all. And other Fast Track trade deals have included Colombia, a country in which nearly 3,000 labor leaders and activists have been killed since 1986, and Korea?a country with which our trade deficit is already rising, and which, under the very low standards of the deal, can receive tariff benefits for cars that contain only 35% Korean content.

To really have trade deals with high standards, the American public must have more say?and that means no Fast Track authority from Congress.

The Baucus-Hatch-Camp- bill would do nothing to fix the U.S. trade deficit or grow the middle class. In fact, it would interfere with important health and safety regulations, ensure the primacy of investor rights over labor rights and boost profits and incomes for global corporations and the top 1%. But it will shrink the paychecks of working families and make it less likely that America?s children can climb the ladder of success.

That's what I was talking about.

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Re: Is this treason?
« Reply #11 on: April 21, 2015, 09:14:11 AM »
I assume you are referring to the "Fast Track Trade Bill"? Actually a fast track for the Trans-Pacific Partnership.
For me it shows who is running the show.
The financial services part of the economy seems to be in charge for sure.
Even the vestiges of American manufacturing seem to be left out in the cold, right along with Unions.
http://www.aflcio.org/Issues/Trade/Fast-Track-Legislation
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Legislators have introduced a bill that is bad for democracy and bad for America. The Fast Track legislation (S. 1900 and H.R. 3830), introduced by Sens. Max Baucus (D-Mont.) and Orrin Hatch (R-Utah) and Rep. Dave Camp (R-Mich.), would establish a process that allows no amendments and limited debate on such trade deals as the Trans-Pacific Partnership. Once legislators have the Fast Track ticket in their hands, they are free to agree to provisions that will send jobs overseas, reduce the bargaining power of workers, jeopardize health and safety regulations and gives corporations more control over our economy and our trading partners' economies. ACCESS THE DIGITAL TOOLKIT

Fast Track legislation allowed the North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA) to be rammed through Congress with weak labor and environmental side deals. Since NAFTA went into effect in 1994, North American workers have experienced downward pressure on wages and a tougher organizing environment. Twenty years later, we find an unbalanced system in which profits soar even as workers take home a diminishing share of the national income.

More recent trade deals, like the World Trade Organization trade deal, had no labor or environmental standards at all. And other Fast Track trade deals have included Colombia, a country in which nearly 3,000 labor leaders and activists have been killed since 1986, and Korea?a country with which our trade deficit is already rising, and which, under the very low standards of the deal, can receive tariff benefits for cars that contain only 35% Korean content.

To really have trade deals with high standards, the American public must have more say?and that means no Fast Track authority from Congress.

The Baucus-Hatch-Camp- bill would do nothing to fix the U.S. trade deficit or grow the middle class. In fact, it would interfere with important health and safety regulations, ensure the primacy of investor rights over labor rights and boost profits and incomes for global corporations and the top 1%. But it will shrink the paychecks of working families and make it less likely that America?s children can climb the ladder of success.

That's what I was talking about.

Well it's paraquatism for sure.

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Re: Is this treason?
« Reply #12 on: April 22, 2015, 03:31:17 PM »
I assume you are referring to the "Fast Track Trade Bill"? Actually a fast track for the Trans-Pacific Partnership.
For me it shows who is running the show.
The financial services part of the economy seems to be in charge for sure.
Even the vestiges of American manufacturing seem to be left out in the cold, right along with Unions.
http://www.aflcio.org/Issues/Trade/Fast-Track-Legislation
Quote
Legislators have introduced a bill that is bad for democracy and bad for America. The Fast Track legislation (S. 1900 and H.R. 3830), introduced by Sens. Max Baucus (D-Mont.) and Orrin Hatch (R-Utah) and Rep. Dave Camp (R-Mich.), would establish a process that allows no amendments and limited debate on such trade deals as the Trans-Pacific Partnership. Once legislators have the Fast Track ticket in their hands, they are free to agree to provisions that will send jobs overseas, reduce the bargaining power of workers, jeopardize health and safety regulations and gives corporations more control over our economy and our trading partners' economies. ACCESS THE DIGITAL TOOLKIT

Fast Track legislation allowed the North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA) to be rammed through Congress with weak labor and environmental side deals. Since NAFTA went into effect in 1994, North American workers have experienced downward pressure on wages and a tougher organizing environment. Twenty years later, we find an unbalanced system in which profits soar even as workers take home a diminishing share of the national income.

More recent trade deals, like the World Trade Organization trade deal, had no labor or environmental standards at all. And other Fast Track trade deals have included Colombia, a country in which nearly 3,000 labor leaders and activists have been killed since 1986, and Korea?a country with which our trade deficit is already rising, and which, under the very low standards of the deal, can receive tariff benefits for cars that contain only 35% Korean content.

To really have trade deals with high standards, the American public must have more say?and that means no Fast Track authority from Congress.

The Baucus-Hatch-Camp- bill would do nothing to fix the U.S. trade deficit or grow the middle class. In fact, it would interfere with important health and safety regulations, ensure the primacy of investor rights over labor rights and boost profits and incomes for global corporations and the top 1%. But it will shrink the paychecks of working families and make it less likely that America?s children can climb the ladder of success.

That's what I was talking about.

Well it's paraquatism for sure.

Agreed. But both major US political parties tread well beyond treason generations ago. At this point we have a Kafka-esque Absurdocracy - government by bureaucrats who ignore the rule of law, themselves, while weaponizing it against internal enemies and whose foreign policy is conducted solely to perpetuate and strengthen its hold over the domestic populace through propaganda and scare tactics.

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Re: Is this treason?
« Reply #13 on: April 25, 2015, 01:32:50 PM »
Kafka-esque Absurdocracy! I fucking love that! May I borrow it? Please?

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Re: Is this treason?
« Reply #14 on: April 26, 2015, 06:48:30 PM »
I forgot to put a TM or circle-R behind it, so it's community property.

Pilfer at will.

 

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