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jeanaragao

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Quintana's second partner
« on: March 12, 2019, 11:14:51 PM »
Hey dudes, does anyone here have a clue about who plays the role of Quintana's second partner, who appears around 25' 39'' and 25' 42''?

I ask it because he really looks like a brazilian actor whose name I don't know either, so it got me curious.

Thanks!

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Re: Quintana's second partner
« Reply #1 on: March 20, 2019, 07:11:50 PM »
Actually you have touched on a subject of some conjecture.
Many suspect that "the third member" thing has some spiritual significance.
Like the notion that is floated from time to time that Donnie is actually in Walter's mind.
An old Nam buddy who died there.
The bowling alley being some sort of way station along the old metaphysical trail as it were.
There is not reference anywhere to thind members.
As far as Quitana's team Walter refers to the as Quintana and O'Brien.
WALTER
Okay then.  We play Quintana and
O'Brien next week.  They'll be
pushovers.

And Jesus refers to his team as "Seamus and me"

QUINTANA
I see you rolled your way into the
semis.  Deos mio, man.  Seamus and
me, we're gonna fuck you up. 

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jeanaragao

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Re: Quintana's second partner
« Reply #2 on: January 07, 2021, 10:43:45 PM »
Hey, man.

Have been thinking about that.

Could Donnie be the average (american) man in the early 90's?

Or even the holy trinity in some sense, you know?

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Re: Quintana's second partner
« Reply #3 on: January 13, 2021, 08:44:16 AM »
What I find the most interesting are the phenomenological implications of a Donnie who is just a figment of our imagination.
Ideas as intentional objects.
Everything from the God myth to Q Anon.
The fact is that beliefs and conceptual realities are "real" in that they have actual effects in the real world. Denying them (shut the Fuck up Donnie) does nothing to lessen their effects. Once a conceptual reality comes into being it can not die. It can only resolve.
Perhaps Donnie's death and the vanquishing of nihilism are related.
We might pretend to believe in nothing but conceptual realities will assert themselves.
And might even bite off the occasional ear. Perhaps Donnie could only resolve with the defeat of nihilism.
That is to say he can only cease to exist once we accept his existence.
Many men of Walter's generation who served in Vietnam found themselves reduced to nihilism in the aftermath. They went because they held strong beliefs. God and Country. And then we're left with the scars of war unable to find any meaning. Perhaps Walter needed a just war to resolve his Donnie? He (as the archetype of the generation) needed to defeat nihilism.
What does Donnie do Clarice?
What is his essence?
He questions.
Endlessly questioning Walter. And no matter how much Walter wants him to shut up, the questions keep coming.
It is only with the defeat of nihilism the questions stop.
What answer is found?
We fight anyone that fucks with our bowling team.
That is all the the reason we need. The ultimate raison d'etre.
God damn it! Am I the only one who gives a Fuck about the rules?
« Last Edit: January 13, 2021, 10:44:54 AM by BikerDude »

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Re: Quintana's second partner
« Reply #4 on: January 19, 2021, 09:10:10 AM »
Bikerdude... absolutely sir!

Richard Dawkins talks about this a lot. The importance of "memes" as entities that somehow have their own drive to be replicated. I don't really think he handles the idea of how our consciousness and meta-cognition needs to buy into a meme and therefore we are more co-creators than meme sleeper cells but I think it reflects your very strong idea that we may respond to ideas as objects within that which we call our mind. Love this!

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Re: Quintana's second partner
« Reply #5 on: January 23, 2021, 05:30:10 PM »
Bikerdude... absolutely sir!

Richard Dawkins talks about this a lot. The importance of "memes" as entities that somehow have their own drive to be replicated. I don't really think he handles the idea of how our consciousness and meta-cognition needs to buy into a meme and therefore we are more co-creators than meme sleeper cells but I think it reflects your very strong idea that we may respond to ideas as objects within that which we call our mind. Love this!

Yes and if you notice the Dude has a copy of Sartre's "Being and Nothingness" on his book shelf.
Existentialism and nihilism are central themes.
A question is, is the Dude a nihilist?
The Dude and Walter are both archetypes of a generation.
It kind of looks like two types of nihilism.
Slack is a form of nihilism.
Is the stranger the Dude's Donnie?

"Fuck it! That's your answer to everything.
Tattoo it on your forehead."
« Last Edit: January 23, 2021, 06:25:01 PM by BikerDude »

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