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Hiram Crespo

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The Epicurean practice of "abiding"
« on: January 02, 2019, 06:40:18 PM »
I?m reading this article on gratitude in Epicurean philosophy in academia.edu titled /38052413/The_Ethical_Significance_of_Gratitude_in_Epicureanism

the article reminds me of what Ancient Greek Epicureans called ?katastematic pleasure? which today is translated in english as "abiding pleasure".

The essay says: "? Gratitude anchors one in a harbor, securing (literally, ?locking down?, katakleisas) the goods of life. Unlike the young man ?wandering by chance? (Vatican Sayings 17, 19) from excitement and joy to disappointment and pain, his state of mind blown by the uncertain winds of a churning sea, the old man achieves stability and peace, using his ?secure sense of gratitude? both to focus attention on the goods in his life and to insulate himself from misfortunes and set-backs.?

" ...while I am grateful, it helps to etch the experience more firmly in my memory. Finally, gratitude also plays a role later, when I must draw on memories to ameliorate present suffering. It helps me to remember, to make the memory ?fresh? and, as it were, to inhabit that experience, blocking out or diminishing the occurrent pain or misfortune.?

so "abiding in gratitude/pleasure" was literally a practice of the ancient Epicureans which emancipated them from having to rely on the pleasures of the immediate moment, like the Cyrenaics had to. They were able to reminisce about past pleasures or anticipate future ones, and this is part of how they cultivated gratitude.[/ftp][/ftp]

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Re: The Epicurean practice of "abiding"
« Reply #2 on: September 27, 2021, 02:58:27 PM »
I think it would be an apt description of the Dude to say that he is an epicurean.
Although he doesn't match the stereotype of the wealthy lover of finer things, he does in my estimation live for indulgences.
The main difference between epicureanism and hedonism is that epicureanism stresses self control. Being Dude. Abiding.

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Epicurus believed that over-indulgence would lead to pain. Instead, he and his followers followed a simple diet and did not aspire to riches, fame, or excessive material belongings.

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