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This aggression will not stand, man!!!I think the crazy fucks on the High Court are more or less re-writing the US Constitution to suit their fancies, and making, effectively, law from the bench. Most undude of them!! The founding dudes of this nation would yell "OVER THE LINE" for sure, mang! Same sex marriage laws should be a state matter, not a Federal matter. Where in the Constitution is the Fed given (delegated) the right to decide who can marry who?Amendment 10, US Constitution..........."The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states, are reserved to the states respectively, or to the people."That's just like my opinion, man.
It's possible to view the decision as recognizing the libertarian concept of negative rights. I'm not sure I agree with that interpretation - primarily because every-fucking-thing else this Court does is 100% about empowering big government and political parties. The decision, instead, seems to stem from a positive right granted to a minority interest more than a restriction upon government. But I need to read it first. I'm just going by the reporting. And the reporting is, if recent history is any indication, misleading and fraudulent.
Quote from: jgiffin on July 01, 2015, 05:58:19 PMIt's possible to view the decision as recognizing the libertarian concept of negative rights. I'm not sure I agree with that interpretation - primarily because every-fucking-thing else this Court does is 100% about empowering big government and political parties. The decision, instead, seems to stem from a positive right granted to a minority interest more than a restriction upon government. But I need to read it first. I'm just going by the reporting. And the reporting is, if recent history is any indication, misleading and fraudulent.Interesting, that's fucking interesting, man. I admit, I'm very pro LGBT, so this could be clouding my judgment with bias. Are there any articles or books you might suggest for me to read about the concept of negative rights?
Ultimately, Louis XV failed to overcome [serious] fiscal problems, mainly because he was incapable of putting together conflicting parties and interests in his entourage. At Versailles, the king and the nobility surrounding him showed signs of boredom, signalling a monarchy in steady decline. Worse, Louis seemed to be aware of the forces of anti-monarchism threatening his family's rule and yet failed to do anything to stop them. Popular legend holds that Louis predicted, "After me, the deluge" ("Apr?s moi, le d?luge"). In fact this quotation is more precisely attributed to Madame de Pompadour, although it is not certain that even she ever said it.
At essence, a negative right is the right to be left alone. Amendments preceding the New Deal era were essentially negative in nature; that is, they restricted governmental interference with private action. After the New Deal, well, yeah, shit hit the fan. They actually IMPINGED on the natural rights of some people by requiring them to subsidize the artificial "rights" of other people. I think we're seeing a third-wave evolution of that process now. It's all about identity politics, special interests, and voting blocks. The extent of your rights is equal to the amount of political pressure you can bring to bear.
Now, I agree with you there, man. I do believe anyone can play a victim and get laws changed in their favor just by repeating slogans over and over. No doubt. But again, when it comes to Same Sex marriage, doesn't a ban on it federally impede the rights of gays? Who's right is it to be left alone? The angry religious paraquat group? I don't know man, I sort of see this as a victory for freedom. Is true freedom the right to take someone else's away? There's just a lot of gray there to me. .
Ideally I'd like to see a government active in benefiting the larger populace in positive ways. (Think public works, education, research etc...)
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