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Re: 'Pirate Bay' for 3D printing launched
« Reply #15 on: March 15, 2013, 02:15:25 PM »
In a way it's a a lot of fun but I can't help thinking of the advice of the Tao Te Ching 'lead a simple life. Don't be too clever.'

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Re: 'Pirate Bay' for 3D printing launched
« Reply #16 on: March 15, 2013, 06:36:52 PM »
We are not being cleaver, we are slaves to our DNA, it demands this of us. What could be simpler than to allow evolution to proceed as it will?

Consciousness is interesting, but it is not more special than the matter and energy that gave rise to it. The Tao also says to seek the bottom, find the low places and flow like water, in this case that is recognizing we are just energy flowing, to cling to the ego, which is what you suggest, it is like trying to climb out of the valley.

Ponder this, are your atoms and cells there to serve you, the ego/consciousness, or is the consciousness there to serve the atoms and cells? What if everything we think we are is just an operating system developed by cells to increase their success? Because they can, just like atoms form molecules simply just because they can, and molecules form cells, just because it is possible.

Just being is all it takes for energy to become all that we know, as the Tao that does nothing but leaves nothing undone. In this, probable foam universe, all things exist at all times, there is never a moment in which you do not exist in one universe or another, not that time means anything on that level. So you exist in infinite configurations, and somewhere in some universe, you are Batman. What matters is existence, not how we perceive it, that only matters to us.

In the end we can really know nothing about the truth of reality, we can not escape the "brain in a vat". Where does that leave us? Nihilism? No, it doesn't matter that we can not know the truth, what matters is how we interact with our reality, true or not. Like the man said, the poison is illusory, and the cure is illusory, so why take the cure? Because we feel it, what matters is our perceptions, true or not, but only to us, and only here and now. The business of understanding our perceptions is science, beyond that we just don't know Dude.

Which all leads me to some question, imagine we are just doing what energy did, what atoms have done and what we experience life doing, and us creating is simply because it is possible. We are acting like every other "thing" in this universe, simple things, doing complicate things for no reason other than that is what we do. AI maybe what energy created atoms to achieve, and we are just the instruments, not the conductors. Because there are no conductors shit just happens.

Finally what I am saying, back on topic, is, energy is energy, atoms are atoms and printed living tissue is living tissue. Further, the brain is a processor, and when AI has an univalent processor, when we talk to it it will be processor to processor and our whole idea of what life and conscious are will be challenged.

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Re: 'Pirate Bay' for 3D printing launched
« Reply #17 on: March 15, 2013, 09:02:50 PM »
Further, the brain is a processor, and when AI has an univalent processor, when we talk to it it will be processor to processor and our whole idea of what life and conscious are will be challenged.

So, you're way into this stuff then, huh? Cool.  8)

This thing that considers itself just a tad more than a "wetware computer" is going for Chinese takeout now, might pop into the liquor store next door to the Chinese place to acquire a bit of solvent to clean the circuitry. Have a fine $period_of_day->(locale($coordinates), time());
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