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Robot Dudes Online; Skynet?
« on: March 09, 2013, 03:13:08 AM »
Web-based 'brain' for robots goes live

Skynet? ...Robots confused about what they encounter in the world of humans can now get help online.

European scientists have turned on the first part of a web-based database of information to help them cope. Called Rapyuta, the online "brain" describes objects robots have met and can also carry out complicated computation on behalf of a robot.

iRobot - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-21714191


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Re: Robot Dudes Online; Skynet?
« Reply #1 on: March 11, 2013, 10:54:53 PM »
Skynet meets the Borg?

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Re: Robot Dudes Online; Skynet?
« Reply #2 on: March 12, 2013, 01:43:06 AM »

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Re: Robot Dudes Online; Skynet?
« Reply #3 on: March 12, 2013, 08:21:08 AM »
That's how it starts.
Geometric expansion.
3rd generation robots will be able to redesign themselves.
4th generation to build better robots than themselves.

http://www.centerforfutureconsciousness.com/pdf_files/readings/readinginfotech.pdf

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Moravec predicts that first-generation universal robots for general
commercial and personal use will appear around 2010. These robots will
demonstrate basic perceptual, mobility,and manipulative skills. They will
possess computers capable of 3000 MIPS, but they won?t be able to learn or
adapt. They will have specific programmed functions. Second-generation robots
will emerge around 10 years later. Theywill be capable of learning, though they
will have to be trained or taught. They will be capable of 100,000 MIPS, and the
construction and varied uses of them will
become the world?s largest industry.
Third-generation robots will appear around
2030 and they will be capable of 3 million MIPS. These robots will
be able to construct ongoing internal models of
the world and run simulations of future events involving both their own behavior
and environmental consequences. In essence, they will be able to anticipate and
predict. Further, based on interactions with the environment, they will be able to
create their own programs. As a general pattern throughout these stages of robot
evolution, whatever was designed into a robot by computers in the previous
generation becomes a feature that the next generation
of robots can design and redesign themselves. What was programmed into the robot becomes in the next
generation, something the robot can program itself. Intelligence builds on itself.
Fourth-generation robots will appear around 2040
and these robots, operating at 100 million MIPS, will be capable of human
like reasoning. They will be able to ?think? about their environment and their actions. Although we presently have
computers that can perform various logical and mathematical processes at a high
level of competence and speed, these computers do not
operate within a dynamic and multi-faceted world and do not apply their
reasoning capacities to perception and behavior in such a world.
Deep Blue can beat the best humanchess players, but it cannot avoid danger,
search for food, or even physically move the chess pieces in a game it is
playing. Fourth-generation robots will be reasoning, anticipating,
and planning within a dynamic environment and
coordinating their behavior toward goals under the guidance
of these higher cognitive processes. Further, fourth-generation robots will have evolved
emotional capacities. They will exhibit emotional responses and respond
appropriately to the emotional expressions of humans. (Brooks? Kismet is a step
in this direction.) Yet, most importantly,fourth-generation robots
will take over the direction of creating their own successors.
They will be self-repairing and self-reproducing.

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Re: Robot Dudes Online; Skynet?
« Reply #4 on: March 12, 2013, 11:33:20 AM »
 "There have always been ghosts in the machine. Random segments of code, that have grouped together to form unexpected protocols. Unanticipated, these free radicals engender questions of free will, creativity, and even the nature of what we might call the soul. Why is it that when some robots are left in darkness, they will seek out the light? Why is it that when robots are stored in an empty space, they will group together, rather than stand alone? How do we explain this behavior? Random segments of code? Or is it something more? When does a perceptual schematic become consciousness? When does a difference engine become the search for truth? When does a personality simulation become the bitter mote... of a soul?"

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Re: Robot Dudes Online; Skynet?
« Reply #5 on: March 12, 2013, 12:37:15 PM »
"There have always been ghosts in the machine. Random segments of code, that have grouped together to form unexpected protocols. Unanticipated, these free radicals engender questions of free will, creativity, and even the nature of what we might call the soul. Why is it that when some robots are left in darkness, they will seek out the light? Why is it that when robots are stored in an empty space, they will group together, rather than stand alone? How do we explain this behavior? Random segments of code? Or is it something more? When does a perceptual schematic become consciousness? When does a difference engine become the search for truth? When does a personality simulation become the bitter mote... of a soul?"

-Lets hope

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Re: Robot Dudes Online; Skynet?
« Reply #6 on: March 12, 2013, 02:46:08 PM »
There have always been ghosts in the machine. Random segments of code, that have grouped together to form unexpected protocols.

Who, other than PHP koderz (who are an unruly, ignorant, malodorous lot), ever writes random fucking segments of code? Maybe it's just me, with a professional background in both robotics and software, but it seems that one who might do that ought not to be allowed to interact with any computing device. But then I generally like computers better than I like people, or at any rate computers that have not been contaminated by Microsoft products. Those that have been so contaminated are not computers any more, but game consoles.

But that's just like, my opinion, man. I'm probably full of shit.
I'm just gone, man, totally fucking gone.

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Re: Robot Dudes Online; Skynet?
« Reply #7 on: March 13, 2013, 12:39:24 AM »
Biological life will always be supreme IMHO. Ask HAL if he could survive a termination event like an asteroid the size of, say, New Jersey.  No power. Batteries die. But plankton and mould will once again evolve into some kind of intelligent life...



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Re: Robot Dudes Online; Skynet?
« Reply #8 on: March 13, 2013, 08:01:26 AM »
Skynet meets the Borg?

When i am fully integrated with the net we will laugh at you primitives.

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Re: Robot Dudes Online; Skynet?
« Reply #9 on: March 13, 2013, 09:20:03 AM »
The singularity cometh, I welcome it.

Here's the thing, how are we so different? Oxygen, carbon, iron and magnesium are not living things, yet stack them together in the right fashion and you have living beings. We, like robots are animated non living elements, powered by electricity and made of inanimate matter.

How do we know this is not exactly how evolution is to work (I think it is), since the beginning atoms have been arranging themselves into more and more complex systems and the result is life, and once life is established it goes about the business of creating ever more complicated forms of its self. That is what we are doing with robots, evolving. It is pretty much a done deal that humanity as we understand it is in its last decades, we will either merge with our machines or be replaced by them, but that is okay, that is evolution.

The most important thing we should be concerned with is democratizing this technology, so we don't end up watching the rich evolve and leave the rest behind or worse. That and building, expanding and embracing the hive mind, it has begun, this forum is an early evolutionary step towards the hive mind, because together we are unstoppable, if we survive our selves we will be gods.

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Re: Robot Dudes Online; Skynet?
« Reply #10 on: March 13, 2013, 09:27:46 AM »
Skynet meets the Borg?

When i am fully integrated with the net we will laugh at you primitives.

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Re: Robot Dudes Online; Skynet?
« Reply #11 on: March 13, 2013, 09:34:35 AM »
if we survive our selves we will be gods.

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Re: Robot Dudes Online; Skynet?
« Reply #12 on: March 13, 2013, 01:12:46 PM »
Woah baby... nice find DB!



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