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That's the antithesis of what most screenwriting courses tell you - I think that's probably had an adverse effect on people over the years.
When I take a big step back, I raise my hands and go - "I dunno". I abide, and that helps me survive.
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I think one of the problems is that we don't have the vocabulary to talk about abstract concepts like emergent phenomena and mystical experiences and the like so we too often end up resorting to the parlance of science and rhetoric that applies to the realm of objects and things you can point to or touch or record. This ends up causing a lot of miscommunication and people stepping over the line when it comes to applying the appropriate jargon. And even the stuff that is agreed upon I sometimes find a bit off putting. Every mystical tradition seems to support the idea of non-dualism, for instance, the idea that "all is one." I have no idea what that sentence means. It seems like the ultimate cop out. Of course we're all interconnected, but in complex ways and not in a mushy lovey dovey sense. We're also interconnected in parasitic and opportunistic ways. I don't think mysticism should be all about positive vibes and personal power, but more about taking the good with the bad and expanding our frame of reference. What the fuck am I blathering about? I need more coffee.
I think that's a good way of putting it, Hominid. There's an old saying "beware of a man of one book." There are lots of models out there, and the more we familiarize ourselves with them the more tools we'll have in our belt and the more adaptable we'll be.Saying "I dunno" is one of the best all purpose tools there is, and one which hardly anyone ever uses these days. "I don't know, Sir." is one of the most underrated lines in TBL. Not as sexy as the others but maybe one of the deepest. When do movie characters every say they don't know something? That's the antithesis of what most screenwriting courses tell you - the characters have to be constantly driving the plot forward and so there's no room for wafflers. I think that's probably had an adverse effect on people over the years. Then again, I dunno.
New here, first post. Just wanted to bring this alive again because I didn't see to many Watts convos recently on this forum.I noticed a lot of reference to new age stuff which is just a way for someone else to pay the mortgage, like Christianity. The only explanation that makes any sense to me is the central tenet of Watts' philosophy. His metaphysics, let me be perfectly clear are that" there is the central Self, you could call it God you could call it anything you like. And its all of us. Its playing all the parts of all beings whatsoever everywhere and anywhere. And its playing the game of hide and seek with itself. It gets lost, it gets involved in the farthest out adventures but in the end it always wakes up, and comes back to itself. And when you're ready to wake up, you're gonna wake up. And if you're not ready your gonna stay pretending that you're poor little me."Once you realize that, there is nothing left to do but laugh yourself silly.All the ideas of heaven and hell, karma and reincarnation, particles and waves to black holes and the Multiverse. These are not answers, they are just further games we are playing with ourselves. We keep inventing bigger telescopes and find more universe just the same way we keep slicing subatomic particles with more powerful microscopes and finding something else smaller. Were never, in this reality, going to finally find the answer-that there is nothing there. That would ruin the game! Were creating it because we are It! So dont take it too seriously, its just a ride ;-)
Quote from: sugarbeargrizzly on January 13, 2014, 09:31:05 PMNew here, first post. Just wanted to bring this alive again because I didn't see to many Watts convos recently on this forum.I noticed a lot of reference to new age stuff which is just a way for someone else to pay the mortgage, like Christianity. The only explanation that makes any sense to me is the central tenet of Watts' philosophy. His metaphysics, let me be perfectly clear are that" there is the central Self, you could call it God you could call it anything you like. And its all of us. Its playing all the parts of all beings whatsoever everywhere and anywhere. And its playing the game of hide and seek with itself. It gets lost, it gets involved in the farthest out adventures but in the end it always wakes up, and comes back to itself. And when you're ready to wake up, you're gonna wake up. And if you're not ready your gonna stay pretending that you're poor little me."Once you realize that, there is nothing left to do but laugh yourself silly.All the ideas of heaven and hell, karma and reincarnation, particles and waves to black holes and the Multiverse. These are not answers, they are just further games we are playing with ourselves. We keep inventing bigger telescopes and find more universe just the same way we keep slicing subatomic particles with more powerful microscopes and finding something else smaller. Were never, in this reality, going to finally find the answer-that there is nothing there. That would ruin the game! Were creating it because we are It! So dont take it too seriously, its just a ride ;-)Big Alan Watts fan here, dude! I dig the way he did business. Good to have you here, sugarbeargrizzly. Nice first post. Grab yourself a place on the rug and abide, mang! Bar's over there, feel free to help yourself!
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