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Re: Why is that islam simply cannot embrace democracy?
« Reply #15 on: December 20, 2012, 04:46:25 PM »
Freedom goes hand in hand with the idea that people have a right to self governance.

Couldn't a people be free under something other than democracy, as in, say, The Netherlands, Norway, Spain, Luxembourg, or Japan?
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Re: Why is that islam simply cannot embrace democracy?
« Reply #16 on: December 20, 2012, 04:53:47 PM »
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Politics in Norway take place in the framework of a parliamentary representative democratic constitutional monarchy. Executive power is exercised by the King's council, the cabinet, led by the Prime Minister of Norway. Legislative power is vested in both the government and the Storting, elected within a multi-party system. The Judiciary is independent of the executive branch and the legislature.

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The politics of the Netherlands take place within the framework of a parliamentary representative democracy, a constitutional monarchy and a decentralised unitary state.[1] The Netherlands is described as a consociational state.[2] Dutch politics and governance are characterised by a common striving for broad consensus on important issues, within both the political community and society as a whole.[1]

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The government of Japan is a constitutional monarchy where the power of the Emperor is limited, relegated primarily to ceremonial duties. His role is defined by the 1947 constitution as "the symbol of the state and of the unity of the people".

Power is held chiefly by the Prime Minister of Japan and other elected members of the Diet, while sovereignty is vested in the Japanese people.[1] The Emperor effectively acts as the head of state on diplomatic occasions. Akihito is the current Emperor of Japan. Naruhito, Crown Prince of Japan, stands as next in line to the throne.

That's too exhausting.
No I don't believe that people can in any way be free without self governance.



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Re: Why is that islam simply cannot embrace democracy?
« Reply #17 on: December 20, 2012, 07:10:28 PM »
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Politics in Norway take place in the framework of a parliamentary representative democratic constitutional monarchy. Executive power is exercised by the King's council, the cabinet, led by the Prime Minister of Norway. Legislative power is vested in both the government and the Storting, elected within a multi-party system. The Judiciary is independent of the executive branch and the legislature.

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The politics of the Netherlands take place within the framework of a parliamentary representative democracy, a constitutional monarchy and a decentralised unitary state.[1] The Netherlands is described as a consociational state.[2] Dutch politics and governance are characterised by a common striving for broad consensus on important issues, within both the political community and society as a whole.[1]

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The government of Japan is a constitutional monarchy where the power of the Emperor is limited, relegated primarily to ceremonial duties. His role is defined by the 1947 constitution as "the symbol of the state and of the unity of the people".

Power is held chiefly by the Prime Minister of Japan and other elected members of the Diet, while sovereignty is vested in the Japanese people.[1] The Emperor effectively acts as the head of state on diplomatic occasions. Akihito is the current Emperor of Japan. Naruhito, Crown Prince of Japan, stands as next in line to the throne.

That's too exhausting.
No I don't believe that people can in any way be free without self governance.
Now the only time I think this may have been achieved was in Catalonia in the late 30's.Of course it didn't last but it was a good try.
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