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Re: Election thoughts, dudes?
« Reply #15 on: November 08, 2012, 12:49:51 AM »
these are all drug references. jay=pot, ecstasian = ecstasy, transcender = all drugs.

pun on gay, lesbian and transgender movement.

maybe to oblique?
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Re: Election thoughts, dudes?
« Reply #16 on: November 08, 2012, 02:15:27 AM »
these are all drug references. jay=pot, ecstasian = ecstasy, transcender = all drugs.

pun on gay, lesbian and transgender movement.

maybe to oblique?

Is that some kind of Eastern thing? ;) :o

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Election thoughts, dudes?
« Reply #17 on: November 08, 2012, 02:29:48 AM »
With pot still being illegal under federal law I wonder if our power hungry federal govt will stomp all over states rights? Until they figure out how to tax it to get their cut that is...

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Re: Election thoughts, dudes?
« Reply #18 on: November 08, 2012, 03:15:07 AM »
With pot still being illegal under federal law I wonder if our power hungry federal govt will stomp all over states rights? Until they figure out how to tax it to get their cut that is...

Someone needs to loudly read to the Feds the following.........

The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.

 - US Constitution, The Tenth Amendment

But the problem is.......

The Tenth Amendment is similar to an earlier provision of the Articles of Confederation: "Each state retains its sovereignty, freedom, and independence, and every power, jurisdiction, and right, which is not by this Confederation expressly delegated to the United States, in Congress assembled."

After the Constitution was ratified, some wanted to add a similar amendment limiting the federal government to powers "expressly" delegated, which would have denied implied powers. However, the word "expressly" ultimately did not appear in the Tenth Amendment as ratified, and therefore the Tenth Amendment did not reject the powers implied by the "Necessary and Proper Clause."

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Election thoughts, dudes?
« Reply #19 on: November 08, 2012, 03:24:10 AM »
Or they could pull the old, as long as its legal you get no federal funding for this, that, or the other thing

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Re: Election thoughts, dudes?
« Reply #20 on: November 08, 2012, 03:53:06 PM »
But the federal laws still outlaw cannabis so just like in California , anyone using or selling in these states can still be arrested, right?
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Re: Election thoughts, dudes?
« Reply #21 on: November 08, 2012, 04:06:58 PM »
But the federal laws still outlaw cannabis so just like in California , anyone using or selling in these states can still be arrested, right?

By the feds, yes. It's nuts!

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Re: Election thoughts, dudes?
« Reply #22 on: November 08, 2012, 06:04:25 PM »
Just a thought for all the dudes (including non-tokers like me)...

In the USA, if called for jury duty, we're allowed and encouraged to judge not only the person, but the law itself. Courts have upholded this, as it's an integral part of the jury system. So if you're called up for jury duty, you're allowed to say to yourself, "Hey, Dude, this guy may have broken the laws against weed, but I think the law is unfair, so he's innocent." And you can even admit this if asked. I'm not giving you any legal advice, but it's allowed. John Adams said so. Alexander Hamilton said so. Chief Justice John Jay said so. Recent federal judges said so.

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Re: Election thoughts, dudes?
« Reply #23 on: November 08, 2012, 10:13:38 PM »
http://books.google.com/books?id=KPQVAQAAIAAJ&q=jury+nullification&dq=jury+nullification&source=bl&ots=gErnUusVbu&sig=ziBJ1wxLpeVSUXWoKM2DXTPD-4Q&hl=en&sa=X&ei=o1cwUNLQC-LN6QGstoGwCw&ved=0CDMQ6AEwAA

"Central to the history of trial by jury is the right of jurors to vote "not guilty" if the law is unjust or unjustly applied. When jurors acquit a factually guilty defendant, we say that the jury "nullified" the law. The Founding Fathers believed that juries in criminal trials had a role to play as the "conscience of the community," & relied on juries' "nullifying" to hold the government to the principles of the Constitution. Yet over the last century & a half, this power of jurors has been derided & ignored by American courts, to the point that today few jurors are aware that an important part of their role is, in the words of the Supreme Court, to "prevent oppression by the government."..."

In the last decade or so Jury Nullification has been promoted as a way around marijuana laws....the jury simple returns a verdict of Not Guilty for any marijuana arrests.
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Re: Election thoughts, dudes?
« Reply #24 on: November 09, 2012, 11:35:29 AM »
I think the property values in Colorado and Washington have gone up over night.
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Re: Election thoughts, dudes?
« Reply #25 on: November 09, 2012, 08:16:39 PM »
I think the property values in Colorado and Washington have gone up over night.
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Re: Election thoughts, dudes?
« Reply #26 on: November 10, 2012, 08:06:48 AM »
I think the property values in Colorado and Washington have gone up over night.
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I'm temped to move.

Come on out to Colorado! Always room for a few more Dudes. Bring some San Pedro if you got any.  :o

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Re: Election thoughts, dudes?
« Reply #27 on: November 10, 2012, 09:10:56 AM »
My thoughts on the election.. :-[

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