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[low gear]

messed it up again.... should have made my first post here...

hi dudes! love to read your dudish stuff!

thanki for let me sit on the beach with you

[Rev. Iconocclesiastes]

messed it up again.... should have made my first post here...

hi dudes! love to read your dudish stuff!

thanki for let me sit on the beach with you

You are welcome, low gear; welcome to our party.   Come and chill with us for a while, please.  What's your drink, dude?

[Shagbeard]

It has come to my attention that the idea of a Christian identifying with Dudeism is oxymoron by Oliver's own thinking and opinion. That atheism would be the basis but likes poetry aspects of those who do believe in a God. Ironic so many concepts of God are in the movie but wanting to control and subdue it based on your opinion of anti-theism is uptight and in the face of what the Dude is, A misplaced spiritual hippie in an all to fast paced world. To bad you all do not know or are blind to what the movements were about and what they believed. Not even Shaggy, Bob Marley, nor J Lennon would be down with this. The sick attacking I just had is example of anti-theist that is willing to do what they say they are against.

So I want my name off this forum and it publicly known that Shagbeard is not with, nor down with Anti-God, Anti-Theist, Antichrist, and what have yous. I renounce such disgusting and hateful things that clearly Oliver wants as Dudeism by him. Take my name off the forum and of your minister roll, Oliver.

Dudeism is not this way! This is hateful, attacking, uptight and exactly what the Dude was against. Plus quite shallow in spirituality.

[The_Sleevez]

Well I dig your style shagbeard but you need to do what your heart tells you too. I'll miss your posts I liked your position I think any religion should be open to an individuals intupretation. There is no cookie cutter for the soul. I wish you all the best.

[Hominid]

And so it goes with theists trying to fit a square peg in a round hole with beliefs that defy logic and common sense. BD said earlier (I'll paraphrase), that trying to make the bible say something it's not is a fool's errand.  These old writings are what they are, there's not getting around it.  If Shag dude is really seeking the truth, he'll eventually figure that out.  Until he does, he'll be insulted and offended by anyone holding a mirror up to him.

[The_Sleevez]

The bible has good things in it as well everybody finds what they need where they need it. I think shag is one of the good ones he sees the bible as it should be. Open to interpretation not the absolute truth but an assortment of ideas that you can learn from. Shooting him down and being disrespectful serves no purpose. 

[Hominid]

Nobody shot him down or disrespected him.  He was faced with the contradiction of self-applying the label "Christian", yet not self-applying what the bible says.  It's a logical fallacy to do so, and BD was pointing that out in a very succinct way.  Lots of people want to give themselves titles and labels, but don't take the tenets of that belief system seriously.  People who do that will eventually get called on it at some point.

So yes, the bible - and any other "sacred" writings, do indeed have good things in them; principals and advice that the world would be better off living by.  Most of us know by instinct what is moral and what isn't anyways...

[BikerDude]

The bible has good things in it as well everybody finds what they need where they need it. I think shag is one of the good ones he sees the bible as it should be. Open to interpretation not the absolute truth but an assortment of ideas that you can learn from. Shooting him down and being disrespectful serves no purpose. 

But where are you getting this idea from?
The Vatican does not allow for that. Nor does Judaism or Islam or whatever.
Somehow in this day and age people just go ahead and make this claim but there is no support for the presumption that beliefs are some personal interpretation.

[Hominid]

All - let's leave this thread for its original intent - to welcome new dudes... If you want to engage in debate, may I suggest we carry it forward to another forum.

[Shagbeard]

This is where it began for me in here, so this is where it will end in here. I am all that I say I am and it is clear that Oliver and many others are against it. Yes, they can say all they want but at end of day I can look in mirror and sleep at night knowing I am not like the sectarians of the organizations. So all of you trying to call me out for whatever are like sounding bells. The very fact that you all know nothing except what little you have seen here and have done this making me feel very unwelcome proves you are being exactly what you say you are against. Peace and may all here find there way as best they can. Hope the best for you all.

Oliver - Dudely Lama - forumdude, Please delete my account and take my name of of your minister roll. I can not abide anti-theist stuff and the support of all that. I denounce the expression of Dudeism as anti-god and only borrowing for poetic.

[Hominid]

Happy trails Shag dude... no hard feelings...

[Yeti]

'Til we meet again, Shagbeard. I wish you the best of luck finding a non-theistic religious organization that welcomes and embraces your theism.

[Shagbeard]

'Til we meet again, Shagbeard. I wish you the best of luck finding a non-theistic religious organization that welcomes and embraces your theism.

[forumdude]

This was my email response to Shagbeard. I think he may stick around:

Shagbeard, you've got it wrong, man  Dudeism welcomes Christian Dudeists. As you've noticed, people on the forum are totally cool to you. It's only Icon that they have a problem with. That's because Dudeism is not anti-Theist, it is anti-zealotry and anti-idealist. Icon was banned because he was deliberately baiting people and causing arguments that didn't have any point. He wasn't a "gadfly" as he calls it but rather just a provacateur. And that's now what we want here. We want Dudeism to be a kind, easygoing and relaxing place.

We'd love to have you stay. Honestly I think Icon has an axe to grind and I sympathize with him but he can't be allowed to hijack our quiet little beach community. Some people don't get Dudeism. You do, Icon doesn't.

[forumdude]

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