Hah! Good one. Similar to: "Treason or heroism... just a matter of timing."So true; the founding dudes of the US would have been hung for treason if we would have lost. And, would have gone down in history as traders.
Um, you mean "traitors" I think. Trading was another part of British/North American history... ;-)
I was just recently accused of being in a cult by a relative (on a Facebook post no less). I wanted to throw a coffee cup at her head, so I got out of my own way, poured another glass of wine, and composed a light-hearted response. I felt insulted, and that Dudeism was insulted. I think she realized her mistake, because the thread is no longer there!
Anyone else have this happen?
I think it's star trek (with klingon as a recognized real life language somewhere so I hear), star wars (Jediism), and TBL (dudeism) fall far from a cult. Those are more of a cult like following for the fans of them, as well as, the Lord of the Rings, Chronicles of Narnia, and the Potter series with devout followers (non spiritual sense). I think that with the many viewpoints that change over time everything is up for grabs.
Uh, so no Lord of the Ringer cult? ;DI can see it now - Lord of the Ringers wearing dirty underwear on their heads. "Shit Heads" I think they'd be called...
No, but as they say......................
"A new idea is first ridiculed, then violently opposed, and then excepted as the norm."
"Good ideas are not adopted automatically. They must be driven into practice with courageous patience."
~Hyman Rickover (1900 - 1986)
~thinkingdude
Uh, so no Lord of the Ringer cult? ;DI can see it now - Lord of the Ringers wearing dirty underwear on their heads. "Shit Heads" I think they'd be called...
I was just recently accused of being in a cult by a relative (on a Facebook post no less). I wanted to throw a coffee cup at her head, so I got out of my own way, poured another glass of wine, and composed a light-hearted response. I felt insulted, and that Dudeism was insulted. I think she realized her mistake, because the thread is no longer there!
Anyone else have this happen?
"The difference is the number of members and the size of the bank account"
...as much as i detest celebrity endorsements, where's a Tom Cruise when you need one? someone to keep us in the public eye?
... "Oh, Brad Pit belongs to Dudeism? I *knew* there was something strange about him!"
And yes "Vagina" is the correct parlance of our times Gentle Dudes.
Though one must ask if we are dude like and relaxed slackers can we, as dudeists, be insulted? Is not the answer to an insult the very dude like response of "Yeah, well, that's just like your opinion, man."As true as that is, I still *felt* insulted for the sake of my compeers. The accuser now has a clear understanding of what Dudeism is, but it took a bit of back'n forth...
Though one must ask if we are dude like and relaxed slackers can we, as dudeists, be insulted? Is not the answer to an insult the very dude like response of "Yeah, well, that's just like your opinion, man."
Though one must ask if we are dude like and relaxed slackers can we, as dudeists, be insulted? Is not the answer to an insult the very dude like response of "Yeah, well, that's just like your opinion, man."
Well, you know, sometimes isn't that easy but this is surely the dude way to go. :)
The only book you will need is "on the road" my friend. If you can get the unabridged first draft it's the best.
He wrote it on one single scroll of typewriter paper....I seen the original scroll when it went on tour a couple of years ago and was in the Forum in Norwich. Awsome stuff dude.
Peace.
Though one must ask if we are dude like and relaxed slackers can we, as dudeists, be insulted? Is not the answer to an insult the very dude like response of "Yeah, well, that's just like your opinion, man."
Well, you know, sometimes isn't that easy but this is surely the dude way to go. :)
This is true, dude; sometimes we all feel like pulling a piece out on the lane. The inner Walter comes out.
Based on what ethos? Certainly not Dudeism...
Shoosh...
The Dude cannot be insulted, because he has no ego.
That's a great quote from Kerouac.
The Dude cannot be insulted, because he has no ego.
My response was "You belong to a cult that protects pederasts - I belong to one that only bowls with them."
Based on what ethos? Certainly not Dudeism...
Shoosh...
the dude definitely looked insulted to me by the cop, and on many other occasions.
But good point, dude; though I think the dude perhaps aspired to be ego-less, but he was imperfect as we all are, and surcome to his natural dudeness buy being real many times, with a real ego, even if said ego was his own creation. I don't personally believe that being dude like equals being "ego-less."
My religion status on Facebook has been "Dudeist" for at least 2 years. When I became ordained in the Church of the Latter-Day Dude a month ago, I added that to my profile. The ex-husband must have noticed the change & is being very unDude. He's agitated & accusing me of raising our 15 yr old in "a cult" or "mocking Christianity". My response was "You belong to a cult that protects pederasts - I belong to one that only bowls with them." (Yes, I am a former Catholic but he's a convert -- the worst kind!)TDC - I can relate! I've seen it all - and the converts are the worst to deal with, because they have dumped their entire belief system for another one, so they think YOU should too. Although in this day and age, converting to Catholicism is almost unheard of. Perhaps his new special lady is a zealot too. One never knows...
Yeah dude...that's the ticket...roll the ball. 8)
Yeah these times they are all going toward Islam, Catholicism isn't anymore a nice religion for fanatics. Too loose probably. :-[My religion status on Facebook has been "Dudeist" for at least 2 years. When I became ordained in the Church of the Latter-Day Dude a month ago, I added that to my profile. The ex-husband must have noticed the change & is being very unDude. He's agitated & accusing me of raising our 15 yr old in "a cult" or "mocking Christianity". My response was "You belong to a cult that protects pederasts - I belong to one that only bowls with them." (Yes, I am a former Catholic but he's a convert -- the worst kind!)TDC - I can relate! I've seen it all - and the converts are the worst to deal with, because they have dumped their entire belief system for another one, so they think YOU should too. Although in this day and age, converting to Catholicism is almost unheard of. Perhaps his new special lady is a zealot too. One never knows...
Thanks DB. Actually is not only about Ego, which can be controlled or kept down but it's always there, it's part of us. It's like the fact that usually a Dude is pacific but not a pacifist. This is not Nam but neither wonderland nor dudeland. The fact that we are dudeists doesn't make us saps otherwise you go into the field of caring really about nothing because you never draw a line in the sand. And that becomes nihilism and not Dudeism. Imho obviously. 8)
Well, Dude, you're right. I think we need an ego as much as we need Walter sometimes. We just have to keep a healthy Ego and not an asshole one. Even bamboo plants have an inner strength, not the strength of an oak but strength nevertheless. And btw if we have an ego it means that there is a reason for it, it's part of ourselves. It just has to be managed well reminding ourselves that we are just a grain of sand.
;D
Things look the way they do depending on where you're standing.
Well... that depends on how far you take it. Not to be a reactionary, but groups (religions, tribes, friendship circles) all survive on a commonly agreed-upon set of loosely-held rules, or perhaps even an ethos. Like: it's not nice to eat babies or con people out of their money. It's cool to go bowling, cooking classes, cult movies... The point of view of the cannibalist is different than the Dudeist or Lebowskian. Hence the need for definition (NOT dogma), but at least something that doesn't include "anything goes" cause it's protected by this point of view that everyone has their point of view. Actually, isn't "political correctness" the term? I'm not accusing anyone here, just stating a point.Things look the way they do depending on where you're standing.
Good thought, dude; very true. We all see things from different points of view. And seeing things from various points of view I'm hoping will be one of the natural tenets of Dudeism.
Things look the way they do depending on where you're standing.
Good thought, dude; very true. We all see things from different points of view. And seeing things from various points of view I'm hoping will be one of the natural tenets of Dudeism.
Fuck, I can't believe I just typed that... am I being an asshole?
Total freedom tends to anarchy and no freedom tends to nazism.
No rules means that everyone is right whatever he does,
too many rules and except the ruler and his accolites and no one is right.
The more laws and restrictions there are,
The poorer people become.
The sharper men's weapons,
The more trouble in the land.
Oliver? We just keep him around because he's useful...you know pays the bills..keeps the lights on. 8)
Fuckin' eh, grab an oat soda, or a caucasian, let's find ourselves a lane. It's a bummer when we take ourselves too seriously, right? I do it too often, so I like how the Dude's ethos peaces me out. I'd hate to end up like Donny...
Fuckin' eh, grab an oat soda, or a caucasian, let's find ourselves a lane. It's a bummer when we take ourselves too seriously, right? I do it too often, so I like how the Dude's ethos peaces me out. I'd hate to end up like Donny...Fucking right dude, mark it 8. Dudeism helps us remain sane, at least a little. The world "forces" us to become uptight and Dudeism is the right antidote. Fucking A! :)
...We can talk for eons about it and it surely helps to clarify things but as a religion the final word belongs to Oliver. He's the one who got the idea and he's the one who can say what belongs and what does not to Dudeism. Let's just hope he's immortal even if he's not able yet to walk on water. :D
It might be that I'm strange, or uptight, but that's how I see things. As an example some time ago on the forum there has been some flames going around: from the everything is cool point of view everyone involved was a dude but imho from the point of view of Dudeism it was not. I don't know if it makes sense but sometimes I just hope to know English better than I do. Oh well.
You're right meekon, I messed up things a little, thanks for the clarification and for the link to the Tao.
M5, I don't doubt you, and I dig the way the forum is organized. Works pretty well. The point was that without common ground, accepted features, tenets, etc.,
But no one would take the place of Lao Tzu. He laid down part of the principles of Taoism, he and not someone else. And, even if as a philosophy is universal dudeism as an organized-disorganized religion has a head of the church which is Olly.
I think that Dudeism needs to be loosely organized and as an organization the boss is Olly. Not me and not anyone else.
I think that
Actually I'm having a bit of language difficulties explaining my opinion.
I think that
To give an example Jedi Knights are pretty much walking their own way within the Force but they follow the advices of Yoda as a group.
Fuck... um - a little anal?
...and perhaps a little too involved in the intricacies of a religion started as a tongue-in-cheek parody?
It's something that is often stated (mostly by you, Me and Rev Dog), but alas, the Lebowskiian ideals seem to have root in the masses. I think we all know that 130,000 people did not get ordained out of a true belief in Dudeism, but as a tribute to a cult movie.
This was what the Abidism movement was about, to develop pure dudeism without the Lebowski baggage. Of course, in an effort to downplay Lebowski in Dudeism it set off the people who assumed that to do things without Lebowski was "too serious", and then people complained it was all heavy and serious, to which I responded with "well don't read it then".
I feel that Dudeism, like Taoism, is closer to a philosophy then a religion. I don't find any of this to be "spiritual", but more so mental. A guide to living your life, not a practice of worship and spirituality and all that.
Well Dudes, I just don't know. Whether you find this all to be Bunny's tongue between yer cheeks or a religion or what have you? Hmmm....I hear ya, but by its very intent and presentation, it's a church (Latter Day Dude), and a religion (Quoting Oliver: "I always wanted to start my own religion"). We're all ordained priests. Don't call it something it isn't.
I feel that Dudeism, like Taoism, is closer to a philosophy then a religion. I don't find any of this to be "spiritual", but more so mental. A guide to living your life, not a practice of worship and spirituality and all that.
But hey, you should take from it what you wish. If the Llama doesn't wanna be an overseer or a pope and lay it all out in commandments, then why are we trying to?
Homind, it might be your right, it might be not but at the end it's your point of view on Dudeism and that's cool, each one of us has one. Only that if you're right I should begin to think about starting my own religion based on Frankestein Junior. :D :D :D
Indeed! Or how about Pulp Fiction? We'd get to carry guns, and every time we're about to cap someone's ass, we get to quote:
"The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the iniquities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men. Blessed is he who, in the name of charity and good will, shepherds the weak through the valley of darkness, for he is truly his brother's keeper and the finder of lost children. And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who would attempt to poison and destroy My brothers. And you will know My name is the Lord when I lay My vengeance upon thee. "
The world does Not need another Religion...it needs Dudeism...a philosophical way to live life.
Down With Dogma! 8)
jay and silent bob are pretty dudelyJay & silent Bob are a hoot, I agree! The out takes from their second film made me roar...
Thumbs up for Kevin Smith's Dogma, probably the most correct movie on religion. Fucking A!
the thirteenth apostle being a black guy so excluded from the bible
I also like the way Western artists portray Mary and baby jeebus as WHITE!
I can feel my rage rising......so had better stop typing for a bit!
Peace Meekon.
Have ANY one of you not watched Zeitgeist? It's the tip of the iceberg, but very well researched.
Quotethe thirteenth apostle being a black guy so excluded from the bible
All the apostles and indeed the Jesus himself were of Arabic descent and therefore if not Black then extremely brown! This seems to be glossed over a lot by the church and it's Alabama and deep South followers.
I also like the way Western artists portray Mary and baby jeebus as WHITE!
I can feel my rage rising......so had better stop typing for a bit!
Peace Meekon.
I did say Western artists meekon! :)
You can also say that if after 2000 years we are still talking about JCD there is probably a reason, beyond Catholicism and other points of view or sects. Imdo. :)
....but you should also have added the cult of Mitra, whatever is called in English...
all Pagan's holy days transformed into Catholic ones, etc. etc.
Probably it's a feature of monotheistic religions.
JCD has an history of 2000 years, the Roman Catholic Church is much younger and changed throughout the years. If I remember well priests could marry until late Middle Age, when hereditary issues came to light. Well, this is another story.
Not that they didn't used JCD for their own interests, they did and they do.
It's all mythological. There is no historical evidence of Jesus. Period. Now, what mankind makes out of mythology is interesting, but only from an anthropological standpoint, certainly not from a historical point of view.