Is the Dude a closet square?
In the scene where the cops attend to the Dude's house to take his statement of claim, the two cops could be the twin pillars of Masonry.
The Coens have borrowed some techniques from Kubrick, the relevant one here is the casting of minor roles mainly because of the real names of the actors. I know how that sounds. Loopy. ::)
I offer this example from Kubrick's Eyes Wide Shut. The film was in part an obvious critique of the wealthy elite as decadent. Leelee Sobieski was cast in a role that any ditzy starlet could play. She was chosen because of her name. John Sobieski was Jan III King of Poland. Leelee's father in the film was an Eastern European man, possibly Polish.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_III_Sobieski
He was crowned on 2/2/1676. 1676 reduces to 20, then 2, so that's 2/2/2.
He reigned for 22 years.
Back to another Polish dude, our own Lebowski. The blond cop (billed as "Younger Cop" plays the good cop. His name is Christian Clemenson. In the Synchromystic lexicon, the initials CC=33=Freemasons.
Gematria "Christian"=101. "Younger Cop"=139.
The "Older Cop" is played by Richard Gant. Gematria "Older Cop"=88=Mercury.
"Gant"=42.
At 42:19 running time, as Maude calls and leaves a message, the Dude asks "Young Cop" Christian Clemenson about his briefcase. At this time, he places two fingers across his wrist. This is a reference to the infamous Masonic secret handshake, which entails putting the index and middle fingers across the other dude's wrist.
So is it just more Masonic symbolism, or is the Dude a brother of the other Thoth-ers?
You told Brandt on the phone, he told me. So where do I fit in?
Quote from: Elbowski on November 11, 2009, 12:18:57 AM
Is the Dude a closet square?
In the scene where the cops attend to the Dude's house to take his statement of claim, the two cops could be the twin pillars of Masonry.
The Coens have borrowed some techniques from Kubrick, the relevant one here is the casting of minor roles mainly because of the real names of the actors. I know how that sounds. Loopy. ::)
I offer this example from Kubrick's Eyes Wide Shut. The film was in part an obvious critique of the wealthy elite as decadent. Leelee Sobieski was cast in a role that any ditzy starlet could play. She was chosen because of her name. John Sobieski was Jan III King of Poland. Leelee's father in the film was an Eastern European man, possibly Polish.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_III_Sobieski
He was crowned on 2/2/1676. 1676 reduces to 20, then 2, so that's 2/2/2.
He reigned for 22 years.
Back to another Polish dude, our own Lebowski. The blond cop (billed as "Younger Cop" plays the good cop. His name is Christian Clemenson. In the Synchromystic lexicon, the initials CC=33=Freemasons.
Gematria "Christian"=101. "Younger Cop"=139.
The "Older Cop" is played by Richard Gant. Gematria "Older Cop"=88=Mercury.
"Gant"=42.
At 42:19 running time, as Maude calls and leaves a message, the Dude asks "Young Cop" Christian Clemenson about his briefcase. At this time, he places two fingers across his wrist. This is a reference to the infamous Masonic secret handshake, which entails putting the index and middle fingers across the other dude's wrist.
So is it just more Masonic symbolism, or is the Dude a brother of the other Thoth-ers?
Forget about the fuckin' fingers. What about 12 Angry men...the magnificent 7,...1 flew over the cukoos nest ...10 commandents....oceans 11,12 and let's not forget, let's not forget oceans 13 and what really makes me uncomfortable, next to Maude's female form, is godfather 3, ghostbusters 2 and that fuckin rat bastard caddyshack 2...add that shit all up and the number makes "strong men cry"
It's Brandt, at that Polish prick Mr. Lebowski's office....spilling beverages ;D
I like yer style, but do you have to use so many cuss words?
Quote from: not_exactly_a_lightweight on November 14, 2009, 11:07:06 PM
I like yer style, but do you have to use so many cuss words?
It's an eastern thing.
But that's just like my opinion, man
by the way One flew over the cuckoos nest was an awesome novel.
Narrated by the chief.
he was a nihilist and believer of native american beliefs.
Quote from: not_exactly_a_lightweight on November 14, 2009, 11:07:06 PM
I like yer style, but do you have to use so many cuss words?
What the fuck you talkin' about?
Okay, have it your way.
This is a very complicated case, Maude. You know, a lotta ins, lotta outs, lotta what-have-yous. And, uh, lotta strands to keep in my head, man. Lotta strands in old Duder's head. Luckily I'm adhering to a pretty strict, uh, drug regiment to keep my mind limber
A Free Mason? What the fuck are you talking about, dude?
Well I think this, now bare with me on this 'cos it's from a fairly zonked out perspective.
But I think The Dude and Walter are the same person.
They are the Yin and Yang of someone who got seperated at conception or something
and donny was like there to keep an eye on them till he wasn't needed no more.
But this is just like yer know............
The dude, Walter, and Donny are all three the same person. Donny is childhood, the dude is youth, and Walter is middle/old age. This is why Donny has to die.
Anyone who says otherwise is like a child who wanders into the middle of the movie. They have no frame of reference.
Quote from: ConditionMyConditionWasIn on December 22, 2010, 04:01:37 AM
The dude, Walter, and Donny are all three the same person. Donny is childhood, the dude is youth, and Walter is middle/old age. This is why Donny has to die.
Anyone who says otherwise is like a child who wanders into the middle of the movie. They have no frame of reference.
Is that some kind of Eastern thing?
Personal, I think that it's easy to tie just about anything into a "secret" society, and it's very easy to make yourself paranoid contemplating coincedence and such.
1. You as a person are guaranteed to spend a good deal of time thinking (you can't stop)
2. You're going to think about yourself most of that time.
3. You share a single planet with a shit ton of other people who think the same thing, all the time.
4. It really is a small world after all, because were really not that different from each other at the end of the day.
5. Numerolgy and symbolism is easy to tie things with, an connect dots that really don't exist, because they are so fluid and flexible. If you can't add it, multiply, if you can't divide, square root, etc. A red apple could symbolize knowledge, danger, sexuality, etc.
6. Life is too short to worry about what other dip shits are doing with their free time, if you're really curious about it, go be a mason. It's 40 dollars a month, and all you have to do is ask a mason or go to a temple. It's not a big deal. They arn't going to butt fuck you dude...
please don't waste your time "trying to figure out the secret code" i left in this message, because there is none.
Quote from: Koog-meister on December 23, 2010, 12:20:45 AMplease don't waste your time "trying to figure out the secret code" i left in this message, because there is none.
No conspiracy is a threat as long as you have your aluminum tin foil hat on and in proper working order..........
(http://www.hermes-press.com/tin-foil-hat.jpg)
Your life is in your hands, dude.
What in God's holy name are you blathering about?
Brethren, as a new ordered Dudeist priest of the and Master Mason I can assure that there isn't any conflict between these two esoteric doctrines.
Quote from: Cuthbert on February 04, 2011, 05:33:33 AM
Brethren, as a new ordered Dudeist priest of the and Master Mason I can assure that there isn't any conflict between these two esoteric doctrines.
Welcome dude! No secret handshake here on our little beach community dude. Just pull up a rug and make yourself to home. Any rug in the house dude! 8)
Quote from: Cuthbert on February 04, 2011, 05:33:33 AM
Brethren, as a new ordered Dudeist priest of the and Master Mason I can assure that there isn't any conflict between these two esoteric doctrines.
Welcome dude. Curious; does being a Dudeist priest change the way you embrace Free Masonry? A few dudes that I have talked to seem to all say that being a dude has helped them in their philosophical and spiritual pursuits.
Quote from: cckeiser on February 04, 2011, 02:43:24 PM
Quote from: Cuthbert on February 04, 2011, 05:33:33 AM
Brethren, as a new ordered Dudeist priest of the and Master Mason I can assure that there isn't any conflict between these two esoteric doctrines.
Welcome dude! No secret handshake here on our little beach community dude. Just pull up a rug and make yourself to home. Any rug in the house dude! 8)
Although, I've heard tell, that there is sometimes a bit of ball-cupping at Lebowski Fests - just what I heard man; could be some off-shoot Jesus Quintana sect, thang.
Grant Morrison (drunkenly) has a word to say about the Freemasons, here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R6Bhwh7FM-o&feature=watch_response (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R6Bhwh7FM-o&feature=watch_response)
Quote from: cakebelly on February 04, 2011, 03:08:55 PM
Quote from: cckeiser on February 04, 2011, 02:43:24 PM
Quote from: Cuthbert on February 04, 2011, 05:33:33 AM
Brethren, as a new ordered Dudeist priest of the and Master Mason I can assure that there isn't any conflict between these two esoteric doctrines.
Welcome dude! No secret handshake here on our little beach community dude. Just pull up a rug and make yourself to home. Any rug in the house dude! 8)
Although, I've heard tell, that there is sometimes a bit of ball-cupping at Lebowski Fests - just what I heard man; could be some off-shoot Jesus Quintana sect, thang.
Yeah, they're perverts, cake dude. They were forced to go door-to-door telling everyone they're ball-cuppers. ;D ;D
Quote from: cckeiser on February 04, 2011, 02:43:24 PM
Quote from: Cuthbert on February 04, 2011, 05:33:33 AM
Brethren, as a new ordered Dudeist priest of the and Master Mason I can assure that there isn't any conflict between these two esoteric doctrines.
Welcome dude! No secret handshake here on our little beach community dude. Just pull up a rug and make yourself to home. Any rug in the house dude! 8)
That's what I would call a brotherly welcome!
Quote from: digitalbuddha on February 04, 2011, 02:53:06 PM
Quote from: Cuthbert on February 04, 2011, 05:33:33 AM
Brethren, as a new ordered Dudeist priest of the and Master Mason I can assure that there isn't any conflict between these two esoteric doctrines.
Welcome dude. Curious; does being a Dudeist priest change the way you embrace Free Masonry? A few dudes that I have talked to seem to all say that being a dude has helped them in their philosophical and spiritual pursuits.
Well, that's a difficult question...Freemasonry was already very Dudeistic "per s?", after all it's just a band of friends who are supposed to hang around, drink some beers (to be honest, many beers) and have fun together, the secrets are just little things that create the link among the "brethren".
Having said that Dudeism like Freemasonry had some influence on my spiritual growth, especially in the last period: I have a stressing job and in some occasions the contemplations of the Coens and the actions of the Dude helped me "taking easy" major obstacles in my career, so I've to say yes.
Hey, it's always good to join a forum and find another brother.