This is the one thing I can't seem to wrap my mind around.
The good and thorough doctor bit. I mean, the whole "looking out my backdoor" song after...he's all happy, I mean, he DID get a blow/hand job, right?
LOL All these years, and I can't see the Dude as being bisexual. I don't know why not, since I'm bisexual myself, and I'm sure I don't look the part. Whatever that part is.
But , just in case I somehow misunderstood this part of the movie; at the risk of being totally embarrassed, I gotta know, that IS what happened, right?
I don't know. I'll check it out though, but we don't have here people working in shift. ;D
Anyhow, even if he's bisexual, that's cool, or ok, or fine, or whatever else. We are pretty cool racially but also sexually. Right? 8) Well, we are pretty cool about almost anything. ;D
Well, I mean, nobody talks about that part really, and I honestly can't come up with any other...I mean...the good and thorough doctor, as Dude says "So..the doctor" "yes what did you think this was all about" the doctor, man, let us not forget..the doctor, I mean, he did get a semen sample? and why else was Dude so happy, rocking out as he drove home after?
I mean, am I over the line here?
Well, maybe the doctor has a nurse too. To help him in his job.
I have pondered this scene quite a bit, and from having seen the movie about 50 times now i believe that the doctor was going to give the dude a fertility test (check balls n prostate) by order of maude, hence her insistance on him going to see him, and her selection of him to knock her up. I believe she had planned this from the moment they met. Hence the 'thorough' doctor. Dudes just chuffed afterwards cuz the doc probs said he was mega-fertile - that or its completely unrelated and hes just happy to have his car back with his creedence, oat soda, and spliff...
The doctor re-attached the Dude's cable, after the Nihilists disconnected it. "Ve cut off your Johnson!" The tussle in the tub was a symbolic castration. The marmot wasn't a marmot to clue us in to it's symbolic identity as the Dude's pocket weasel. The Dude was just happy to get his Johnson back, not fruity.
My understanding of that scene is that he's trying very hard to move past what happened in the doctor's office. The doctor had done some invasive tests to check fertility, stds, and whatever else Maude might have wanted checked out before she got the Dude to help her conceive. The Dude to me seems to be surrounding himself in things he loves to help him move past the situation. Hence the Creedence, J, and oat soda. I didn't see anything sexual about it. Contrast his attitude in that scene to the deep calm he has after helping Maude conceive. Interesting interpretation though. And ya, I think as Dudeists our coolness should expand beyond race.
Quote from: Whiteheart on October 04, 2009, 12:30:06 AM
This is the one thing I can't seem to wrap my mind around.
The good and thorough doctor bit. I mean, the whole "looking out my backdoor" song after...he's all happy, I mean, he DID get a blow/hand job, right?
LOL All these years, and I can't see the Dude as being bisexual. I don't know why not, since I'm bisexual myself, and I'm sure I don't look the part. Whatever that part is.
But , just in case I somehow misunderstood this part of the movie; at the risk of being totally embarrassed, I gotta know, that IS what happened, right?
Does the female form make you uncomfortable, Whiteheart? ....The word itself makes some men uncomfortable. Vagina.
Dudes, I have read all the comments, and as much as I can't see The Dude with another male Dude......it just seems to be what was going on there!
I mean, "drop you pants" "no, it was my jaw" "drop your pants please" and Dude looks at him and then....rocking out on his car with "my back door" playing, come ON!
Quote from: Elbowski on October 04, 2009, 10:55:04 PM
The doctor re-attached the Dude's cable, after the Nihilists disconnected it. "Ve cut off your Johnson!" The tussle in the tub was a symbolic castration. The marmot wasn't a marmot to clue us in to it's symbolic identity as the Dude's pocket weasel. The Dude was just happy to get his Johnson back, not fruity.
Actually I can see this. The nihilists caused the dude to worry about his virility and the doctor reaffirmed it.
I believer yer thinking about this is way uptight man.
Maude had the dude checked out as a potential mate. The dude
had no idea this was the case.
She had layed the ground work by hinting that the doctor was "thorough".
The dude is not Bi. At least there is no hint of it in the movie.
I would bet that he's cool with it but I don't see any sign that he is bi.
He confirms that the doctor examined him for fertility in the movie after Maude
tells him she'd trying to conceive. He realizes why she wanted him to go
to the doctor.
MAUDE
It increases the chances of
conception.
The Dude spits some White Russian.
DUDE
Increases?
MAUDE
Well yes, what did you think this
was all about? Fun and games?
DUDE
Well...no, of course not--
MAUDE
I want a child.
DUDE
Yeah, okay, but see, the Dude--
MAUDE
Look, Jeffrey, I don't want a partner.
In fact I don't want the father to
be someone I have to see socially,
or who'll have any interest in rearing
the child himself.
DUDE
Huh...
Something occurs to him.
DUDE
So...that doctor.
I know...and I mean, the way you determine fertility is with a sperm sample
Doesn't rule out doing it himself manually, and in fact the DIY is the usual way of collecting such samples.
I just finished reading the script for something I'm putting together and I can't see your inference.
I go with what Bikerdude said. The Dude is not that bothered with what happened. I have had examinations by male doctors that were personally invasive this doesn't mean I'm gay. It's part of doctor patient professional relationship. You can't accuse every gynecologist of having an affair with every patient they examine.
I think this may be a case of Freudian transference. You identify highly with the Dude therefore you are bound to over emphasise issues that build more similarities between yourself and the character.
All just my opinion of course.
Quote from: Whiteheart on November 03, 2009, 11:49:29 PM
Dudes, I have read all the comments, and as much as I can't see The Dude with another male Dude......it just seems to be what was going on there!
I mean, "drop you pants" "no, it was my jaw" "drop your pants please" and Dude looks at him and then....rocking out on his car with "my back door" playing, come ON!
WTF? Yeah? What do you think happens when you visit Maude's doctor? You turn Bi. Get a new driver's license? Stop being Jewish? WTF?
Has it occurred to you Sir that the Dude was singing on the way home (while enjoying a J, I might add) because he found out at the doctor's office that Maude wanted to have a child (but not with someone that she would have to see socially) and that he was to be the dick to help her conceive, man?
That he, the Dude, was about to get some fine socialite pussy free of charge? That he, the Dude, was about to help his new lady friend conceive, sir?
I mean, it might not be, I mean you know what I'm trying to say, that new shit has come to light and the Dude was just happy about getting laid.
Are you saying that the Dude was digging a Creedence tune and toking because he just got popped in the ass by an Arab doctor? That's just the stress talking, Whiteheart .
Quote from: digitalbuddha on November 04, 2009, 12:38:12 PM
Has it occurred to you Sir that the Dude was singing on the way home (while enjoying a J, I might add) because he found out at the doctor's office that Maude wanted to have a child (but not with someone that she would have to see socially) and that he was to be the dick to help her conceive, man?
That he, the Dude, was about to get some fine socialite pussy free of charge? That he, the Dude, was about to help his new lady friend conceive, sir?
I don't believe he knows at this point that he's going to help her conceive man. He didn't know until after the deed was done. I still think that the Dude is self-medicating after some invasive medical examination. You don't rock out when a stranger fucks you in the ass, you destroy their car.
But seriously, I just can't see the bisexuality thing.
Quote from: Matt the Walrus on November 04, 2009, 07:44:29 PM
You don't rock out when a stranger fucks you in the ass, you destroy their car.
.............this is what happens when you fuck a stranger in the ass.
I think the Dude was just happy to have his car back with his creedance tapes. Looking out my back door aint a song about bisexual stuff, it's about chillin the fuck out after a long trip, locking the front door, retreat to the back porch, fire up a J and go ahhhhhhh! The dude has his car, a J, an oat soda and the beloved Creedence tapes, Hell that put's me in a good mood just thinking about it. I really don't think the car scene has anything to do with the doctor visit. Of course, that's just like my opinion man.
Quote from: dudeski on December 21, 2009, 11:38:16 AM
I think the Dude was just happy to have his car back with his creedance tapes. Looking out my back door aint a song about bisexual stuff, it's about chillin the fuck out after a long trip, locking the front door, retreat to the back porch, fire up a J and go ahhhhhhh! The dude has his car, a J, an oat soda and the beloved Creedence tapes, Hell that put's me in a good mood just thinking about it. I really don't think the car scene has anything to do with the doctor visit. Of course, that's just like my opinion man.
I think the dude figured out in the doctor's office that Maude wanted to be his lady friend, that she wanted his help in conceiving man, and wanted a roll in the sack trying out some zesty coitus. In the parlance of our times of course.
So, like any Lebowski achiever, he fired up a J, cranked up the Creedance and did some dude like celebrating on the way back to his pad. Though I'll have to admit that the dude was a bit surprised to find out that Maude was serious about (...let me tell ya somethin' bout the dude, etc.) conceiving a little Lebowski and not seeing the dude socially after.
But all in all, the dude seemed to mark it eight with his lady friend and it didn't cost the dude a thousand clams or bones or what have you.
................I guess that's the way the whole durned human comedy keeps perpetuatin' it-self, down through the generations...........
.....after all, we are talkin' about the dude here.
finally...some leads. this is the last piece of the lebowski puzzle i never understood.
Quote from: karlhungus on December 24, 2009, 04:38:24 PM
finally...some leads. this is the last piece of the lebowski puzzle i never understood.
Far out, man. Had the boys down at the crime lab working in shifts.
(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y39/TheMadCelt/lebowski6ixsn2.gif)
Actually, he couldn't have known yet. Notice his reaction later where he spits out his white russian, you know, after coitus. So he's shocked to find out that he was being used for conception.
I take it that he seems to be in a good mood after the exam merely because he is toking. He's just high man, pure and simple. Also, he's happy because he got is car back. And oh yeah, how can I forget. I assume by the fact that Creedence is playing that it means that he actually recovered his Creedence tapes. Which the authorities had not held out much hope for.
Quote from: triviadude on January 26, 2010, 12:52:17 AM
Actually, he couldn't have known yet. Notice his reaction later where he spits out his white russian, you know, after coitus. So he's shocked to find out that he was being used for conception.
I take it that he seems to be in a good mood after the exam merely because he is toking. He's just high man, pure and simple. Also, he's happy because he got is car back. And oh yeah, how can I forget. I assume by the fact that Creedence is playing that it means that he actually recovered his Creedence tapes. Which the authorities had not held out much hope for.
Its possible that he didn't know, OR, its possible that he knew, but had coitus with her thinking he got away with dropping a load of dude like sperm in Maude without achieving conception AND damn near chocked on his drink when he found out that Maude had other plans with his load using Yoga to "help conception along a bit."
But then again the Dude did tell Da Fino that "She's not my special lady, she's my fucking lady friend. I'm just helping her conceive, man!"
I wouldn't think he was bi, because he spent most of his time avoiding a trip to the doctor, of course Maude never mentioned he'd be having a hand job by a male doctor, but she did mention that he was thurrah. Am I wrong, am I wrong.
Quote from: SouthernDude on January 27, 2010, 09:58:40 PM
I wouldn't think he was bi, because he spent most of his time avoiding a trip to the doctor, of course Maude never mentioned he'd be having a hand job by a male doctor, but she did mention that he was thurrah. Am I wrong, am I wrong.
Bi? The story is ludicrous! I doubt that Walter, and I think he would know, would hang around with the dude if he knew the ole' Duder was AC/DC.
AC/DC? ;D
AC/DC? ;D
Ooops, published twice, sorry. :(
Quote from: greatspiritmonk on February 01, 2010, 05:05:03 AM
Ooops, published twice, sorry. :(
Deja Vu, man. Very dude like...what, is this, what day is this? ;D
Quote from: greatspiritmonk on February 01, 2010, 05:05:03 AM
Ooops, published twice, sorry. :(
Well they can FUCKING UNPOST IT! ..........shomer shamas, shomer fucking shamas. (http://forum.bullshit.com/images/icons/icon10.gif)
Revs:
Dude ain't gay or what have you.
That just ain't gunna fly, Orville!
I don't know. I just hope it's not already the tenth. ;D
Quote from: greatspiritmonk on February 04, 2010, 04:27:39 AM
I don't know. I just hope it's not already the tenth. ;D
Just slip it under the door (this was said as Marty gives the international sign of the "Spanking of the Monkey.") ;D
I didnt know he (Marty) was giving some kind of international sign. Of course he was already giving enough signs that he was a pederast, or a creep, who would notice?
Symbolically I think he represents the fucks at the league office, but queer. (the unspoken message was "Give me the money")
The league office must hire all types. Krauts, fags, they must be pretty cool with the prejudice thing. Or maybe he represents Venice, the setting. I could go on with the what-ifs, but he is what he is. a moron. Does that actor show up at LB Fests?
What in Gods holy name are you blabbering about!?
Quote from: FuckinA on February 05, 2010, 07:54:47 AM
What in Gods holy name are you blabbering about!?
Actually, I think he's blathering. Perhaps he's infering that The Dude doesn't pay money for his rent, but rather, services Marty on a monthly basis?...
I just want to understand this. Everytime a hand pump motion is made, or a thurrah doctor requests that shorts be dropped, in this fair city, it infers the person is bi?
Are you employed, sir?
In that case, he's OVER THE LINE!!!
I think Marty is pretty similar to Donny. He seems to me the kind of shy, good hearted person that most of the times you feel glad to help. That's why the Dude goes to see his "show" even if he knows it's a bad show. It seems to me that Marty doesn't feel happy to ask for Dude's money, but he has to. That's only my opinion dudes. ;D
Quote from: not_exactly_a_lightweight on February 04, 2010, 10:25:44 PM
I didnt know he (Marty) was giving some kind of international sign. Of course he was already giving enough signs that he was a pederast, or a creep, who would notice?
Symbolically I think he represents the fucks at the league office, but queer. (the unspoken message was "Give me the money")
The league office must hire all types. Krauts, fags, they must be pretty cool with the prejudice thing. Or maybe he represents Venice, the setting. I could go on with the what-ifs, but he is what he is. a moron. Does that actor show up at LB Fests?
Dude, what ever you have been smoking, send me a pound will ya? Jesus! not_exactly_a_lightweight posts some random blathering and we're supposed to shit our pants over it.
And dude, queer is not the preferred nomenclature; multi-gendered strumpet, please. (http://forum.bullshit.com/images/smilies/biggrin.gif)
Quoting DBuddha:
"And dude, queer is not the preferred nomenclature; multi-gendered strumpet, please."
That comment struck me as enlightened/or amazing. <this is me not joking for a change> I have heard from friends in the native community, that at least one indian nation(Cree) does not have a word for gay/lesbian/homosexual, they instead say "person with two souls" which is amazing and lines up with your joking comment. (I believe there is a fragment of truth in every joke)
ok enough serious talk, I'll have another caucasian, Jackie!
Quote from: not_exactly_a_lightweight on February 06, 2010, 10:24:08 PM
Quoting DBuddha:
"And dude, queer is not the preferred nomenclature; multi-gendered strumpet, please."
That comment struck me as enlightened/or amazing. <this is me not joking for a change> I have heard from friends in the native community, that at least one indian nation(Cree) does not have a word for gay/lesbian/homosexual, they instead say "person with two souls" which is amazing and lines up with your joking comment. (I believe there is a fragment of truth in every joke)
ok enough serious talk, I'll have another caucasian, Jackie!
That's interesting, man, that's interesting.
Elbowski's final post this is, eating humble pie.
You were right, dear Whiteheart, seems, yes yes, The Dude is Bi.
He's the prodigal "Multi gendered strumpet",
Packin' fudge or blowin' trumpet.
Spreads his legs for Treehorn's Jack,
To keep the monkey off his back.
He's finding fees while on his knees,
A thurrah doctor, free from disease.
Maude's a swinger after all,
flying naked down the hall.
She must have liked The Dude she saw,
she dropped her crack onto his jaw.
That slut, that strumpet, that fucking whore,
just slips the rent under the door.
You see what happens, what comes to pass,
when he fucks a stranger in the ass?
He tries to keep it limber, loose,
one could drive a train through his caboose.
I hope that you don't think me rude,
I'm just talkin' 'bout The Dude.
Quote from: Elbowski on March 15, 2010, 01:02:17 AM
Elbowski's final post this is, eating humble pie.
You were right, dear Whiteheart, seems, yes yes, The Dude is Bi.
He's the prodigal "Multi gendered strumpet",
Packin' fudge or blowin' trumpet.
Spreads his legs for Treehorn's Jack,
To keep the monkey off his back.
He's finding fees while on his knees,
A thurrah doctor, free from disease.
Maude's a swinger after all,
flying naked down the hall.
She must have liked The Dude she saw,
she dropped her crack onto his jaw.
That slut, that strumpet, that fucking whore,
just slips the rent under the door.
You see what happens, what comes to pass,
when he fucks a stranger in the ass?
He tries to keep it limber, loose,
one could drive a train through his caboose.
I hope that you don't think me rude,
I'm just talkin' 'bout The Dude.
I bet people say "that creep can write."
But, seriously, well done. I am not sure if I can dig the whole tune, in the parlance of our times, but this is a worthy bit of rhymery.
elbowski, your rhyming is very compelling but I still maintain that the Dude is not bi. So you go see your landlord's one-man play-type thing and all of a sudden you're some strumpet giving out sexual favours to keep a roof over your head? I think not.
I'd just like to note that the Dude's sexual desires do not surface much at all in the film. He doesn't really pursue anyone or hint at any sort of attraction. Maude has to disrobe and throw herself at the Dude and even then he jokes around and comments on the robe instead of making some sort of horny remark.
The one exception is the dream sequence during which the ol' Duder exhibits some pretty heterosexual male thoughts. No Saddam in a G-string or Brandt in some sort of french maid outfit. Nope. Lots of chicks in short skirts and he floats between their legs.
Saddam in a G-string or Brandt in some sort of french maid outfit? :D :D :D
Far out man!
Sorry I do have to ask, why is this important. I personally don't care a toss what his sexual orientation is. In fact my own sexual orientation only becomes your business when i try to share it with you on a one-to-one basis (or other multiples, an old dude can dream).
I actually feel slightly sorry for people who introduce themselves as "hi I'm Gay". i introduce myself as a Poet, or Artist, or philosopher. It just seems that someone who introduces themselves by stating their sexuality, puts sex first. Which is a shame as there is so much more to life (though it is nice).
Sorry lost my train of thoughts there.
Quote from: greatspiritmonk on March 18, 2010, 06:40:25 AM
Saddam in a G-string or Brandt in some sort of french maid outfit? :D :D :D
Far out man!
Oh, thank you sooo much for that visual. ::)
Quote from: greatspiritmonk on March 18, 2010, 06:40:25 AM
Saddam in a G-string or Brandt in some sort of french maid outfit? :D :D :D
Far out man!
Thanks far
fucking out!
ROFL excellent poem
Dudes, he is SO aBIdingly BI.
how else did the doc get a semen sample?
"so...the doctor"
when finding out Maude was trying to concieve?
did the Dude "lower his pants" and jerk off manually into a cup? maybe
he seemed purty durned happy on his ride home singing along to "my back door"
COME ON!
Quote from: Whiteheart on April 25, 2010, 08:00:08 PM
ROFL excellent poem
Dudes, he is SO aBIdingly BI.
how else did the doc get a semen sample?
"so...the doctor"
when finding out Maude was trying to concieve?
did the Dude "lower his pants" and jerk off manually into a cup? maybe
he seemed purty durned happy on his ride home singing along to "my back door"
COME ON!
There is a small group of nerves that are accessible through the anus it is used in veterinarian practice (particularly with gorillas and chimpanzees) where they electronically stimulate it http://www3.interscience.wiley.com/journal/110492315/abstract?CRETRY=1&SRETRY=0 (http://www3.interscience.wiley.com/journal/110492315/abstract?CRETRY=1&SRETRY=0).
so the semen sample could be collected involuntarily by sticking a finger up the anus.
Is that what they call "milking the prostate"? 8)
The Dude ain't much of a milkman, but he likes his half and half, and he likes his cream fresh.
The dude still jerks off manually.
Quote from: Robert the Dude on April 27, 2010, 01:19:30 AM
Is that what they call "milking the prostate"? 8)
...
I bow to your greater experience there, is that in that set of terms like cottaging (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cottaging)? ;D
Sorry, I wasn't listening. Are we talking about what? Milk? ;D
Doesn't something else happen in the scene prior to the doc.'s office? Doesn't something new come to light that has the Dude alot less worried about Nilists coming to cut off his Chonson? Something that Maude made reference to regarding Bunny, her whereabouts or what have you and the possibility that they threw a ringer for a ringer?
Am I worng???
Kev
Some new shit has come to light. In the driving scene where The Dude bangs the roof 3 times, it reminded me of that '70's song, "Knock Three Times". The dude in the song is trying to arrange an affair with the lady in the suite below his.
The chorus goes "Knock three times on the ceiling if you want me, twice on the pipe, if the answer is no."
Previously, when the cops visited Dude's place, the older cop was fondling The Dude's bowling pin pipe. He did not look friendly. He knocked the pipe twice on the ashtray. I guess the answer was no.
Quote from: meekon5 on April 26, 2010, 06:01:27 AM
Quote from: Whiteheart on April 25, 2010, 08:00:08 PM
ROFL excellent poem
Dudes, he is SO aBIdingly BI.
how else did the doc get a semen sample?
"so...the doctor"
when finding out Maude was trying to concieve?
did the Dude "lower his pants" and jerk off manually into a cup? maybe
he seemed purty durned happy on his ride home singing along to "my back door"
COME ON!
There is a small group of nerves that are accessible through the anus it is used in veterinarian practice (particularly with gorillas and chimpanzees) where they electronically stimulate it http://www3.interscience.wiley.com/journal/110492315/abstract?CRETRY=1&SRETRY=0 (http://www3.interscience.wiley.com/journal/110492315/abstract?CRETRY=1&SRETRY=0).
so the semen sample could be collected involuntarily by sticking a finger up the anus.
100% electronic?
Quote from: digitalbuddha on June 27, 2010, 02:21:21 AM
100% electronic?
100% tied up, drugged and electronic (stops to think about that for a minute, smiles).
Ok dudes this thread has been purty durned amusing but I've got a bit of a medical background and I think I can shed some light on this...
All we can tell from what we saw in the movie was that the dude had a complete physical including an obvious reference to a prostate exam. Which when performed can cause not only an unwanted erection but can also cause ejaculation in some cases. Also, if we assume Maude had asked the Dr. to perform fertility testing it is sometimes normal for the Dr. to examine and even measure the testicles. And I'm sure it's no surprise for anyone to find out this is all highly unusual when the patients complaint is a bump on the head...lol
So I imagine most people would wonder why any Dr. no matter how good a man really needed to be that "thorough" which would lead to the dude making the connection when he realizes Maude's intent.
I personally don't see anything in the film that would imply he was bi-
But that's just like, my opinion, man.
I still go with what I said earlier in the cinversation:
Quote from: meekon5 on November 04, 2009, 11:30:32 AM
...I think this may be a case of Freudian transference. You identify highly with the Dude therefore you are bound to over emphasise issues that build more similarities between yourself and the character...
It's just individuals wanting the Dude to be more like them.
In my humble opinion of course.
Quote from: meekon5 on June 29, 2010, 08:22:00 AM
Quote from: digitalbuddha on June 27, 2010, 02:21:21 AM
100% electronic?
100% tied up, drugged and electronic (stops to think about that for a minute, smiles).
Jesus!
You said it, mang; no buddy fucks with being tied up, drugged and electronic...
QuoteI mean, he DID get a blow/hand job, right?
What the fuck are you talking about?!
QuoteThe good and thorough doctor bit. I mean, the whole "looking out my backdoor" song after
Separate instances!
digitalbuddha said it best:
QuoteAre you saying that the Dude was digging a Creedence tune and toking because he just got popped in the ass by an Arab doctor? That's just the stress talking...
The doc was just checking for STD's, where does it say there was even a fertility test?
And if there was a fertility test, the Dude would be led into a private room with porn available and asked to jerk off manually. uh....when have u ever heard of a doctor blowing or jerking off a patient for a fertility test?
And ...lets not forget...lets not forget...the meaning of the song Lookin Out my Backdoor is completely unrelated to anything sexual, homosexual, or othererwise, its about sitting on your back porch, doin a J, and chillin out from the stresses of the world. Read the lyrics, mang.
I gotta say this whole topic is OVER THE LINE! This aggresion against the Dude's straightness will not Stand, man! Mark it zero!
I don't think the dude's bi, but he is pretty cool racially.
Quote from: ConditionMyConditionWasIn on December 22, 2010, 04:03:35 AM
I don't think the dude's bi, but he is pretty cool racially.
Fucking eh.
Actually, I think the Dude is damn close to being asexual, manual jerking-off notwithstanding. ::)
Come on, Outer, he is having it off with Maud, for all we know, and he prefers being killed by papa Lebowski from being castrated by Uli and his nihilist gang.
Quote from: brother_erwin on February 12, 2011, 05:40:35 PM
Come on, Outer, he is having it off with Maud, for all we know, and he prefers being killed by papa Lebowski from being castrated by Uli and his nihilist gang.
But, Brother Erwin, why does he object to being castrated? Is it because of loss of sexual function? Or is it because of pain? Loss of blood? Loss of a body part? Symbolic loss of his manhood? Being munched out by a ferret? All of these, most likely, but in what proportion?
Well, dude, we just don't know, and we don't have an indication of whether he desires another coital session with Maude, either. I think we do know that he wouldn't pursue such an enterprise, nor would he refuse an offer to partake. We also know that the only reference he makes to jerking off is in reaction to hearing a sex trade mogul's business plan. Dissing was the intention here--the reality of the act it refers to is unknown. Plus, he's got a strict medication regimen going on. Gotta play havoc with his jewels.
Lack of sex drive, man. Indifference. You could say that it serves to make him more Dudely, in the manner of that cleric whose testicles were removed by the father of a young woman he was having an affair with (anyone know who I'm talking about? I think it was in medieval times). He later was grateful because that loss allowed him to better focus on his religious pursuits.
Why the fuck he does object to being castrated??? Are you joking, mang?
To be honest, Outer Element, I don't know what medieval cleric you are referring to, but for sure he did not appreciate sexual pleasures - which makes him - what appears to me - a sexual suspect, in the parlance of John Irving. I hope, though, that the religious pursuits fucking compensated him for the loss.
On a personal level, I can appreciate that the dude aka Jeff Lebowski, the bowling one, who had neither his legs nor his pair of testicles shot off, did not want his johnson being cutt off by a bunch of guys from the (my) fucking Fatherland.
Also, Outer-dude, not being on a strict drug regimen may alter sex-drive.
I am not sure that does any good.
Faithfully BE
If we see the Dude as the Hero of the myth (a'la Joseph Campbell's famous theory)..if he is seen as the kind of Christ of the movie..then..like Jesus..his sexuality isn't the issue. He fits right in there...we see the world through his eyes (and shades) and his ethos is universal for people of all race, creed, gender or sexuality.
As far as the Dude's happiness post-physical, I doubt Maude would let him know the purpose of the visit..she clearly sees him as a bit hapless and capable of inadvertently killing her plan.
The Dude just seems to be happy because he is basically free of "the case" and can now return to the happy person he was before the Treehorn thugs started the whole durn shooting match. For those who see TBL through a Buddhist lens..the post-exam Dude is happy because he has finally released the stressful clinging to the rug and the caper that caused him unhappiness in the first place.
He has everything he needs (as someone wrote previously)..his Holy Sacraments...Creedence, Car, Oat Soda, and J. Notice it's not until he gets paranoid about Da Fino, crashes his car and finds Larry's homework that he once again plunges into the case (notice the fearful look on his face as he peruses Larry's homework).
But you know that's just like my opinon, man...
It's all about going with the flow, especially if someones offering to open the flood gates, I guess. Free love is great, free love from a pre-paid doctor, even sweeter.
Stick it to the man, Dude!
Lao Dude, fucken a, that's what I was thinking, like the Chinaman, his sexuality is not the issue.
All we know for sure is, Bunny makes him smile, and he seems to have enjoyed helping Maude conceive, but we don't know what freaky shit he got into in college. That said, it is a leap to say he is or is not anything given the limited evidence in the film. Until he says otherwise, he is only helping his special lady friend, guess we have to wait for the sequel.
I don't think it matters if a Mr/Ms Dude chooses johnson or vagina, it's the not being afraid to say it, that's abiding.
I thought he just checked his testicles and maybe extracted a semen sample via prostate massage.
Quote from: el Jackson on July 05, 2012, 05:08:11 AM
I thought he just checked his testicles and maybe extracted a semen sample via prostate massage.
Nah dude, he was about to bang Maude (you know, the whole little Lebowski going on) and it would appear that Maude didn't want to waste her time having zesty coitus with the Dude if he was shooting blanks. He was there to check his ammo and make sure he could sire a little dude for Maude to raise. Not that Maude wanted to see the Dude socially, you understand. As far as the Dude was concerned, he was just helping his lady friend conceive, man. There was no gay thing involved in it. As far as we know, the Dude has his toast butter side up, mang. There is no evidence in TBL to the contrary.
Well I don't know if some one said this already but it is possible that as depicted in the movie road trip he may have been milking the prostrate and fallowed by the dude in his car smoking a j and listening to his credence tapes trying to abide his way tho what just happened
I feel like a child, walking into the middle of a movie....
You have no frame of reference here? Well, there seems to be this little rumor going on that the dude was bi-sexual. Personally, I roundly reject this as a claim that is over the line and without merit or evidence.
Thanks for the catch-up DB - I wondered if that was the rumour... stinks to me! Too many strands in the ol' duder's head to be a fudge-packer IMHO.
Fudge packer is definitely not the preferred nomenclature! ;)
Peace :)
Quote from: Caesar dude on July 17, 2012, 06:19:07 PM
Fudge packer is definitely not the preferred nomenclature! ;)
Peace :)
Just call me a fudge disturber. ;)
thats a pretty big leap suggesting the dude is bi because he had a medical. the creedance song may be making a reference to the dude having the doctors finger up his arse but i'm fairly certain thats common for the kind of medical we can deduce he was having.
let it go dudes, :)
peace
Ah Milnie, always the voice of reason. I like your style.
Quote from: DigitalBuddha on July 12, 2012, 04:06:40 AM
Quote from: el Jackson on July 05, 2012, 05:08:11 AM
I thought he just checked his testicles and maybe extracted a semen sample via prostate massage.
Nah dude, he was about to bang Maude (you know, the whole little Lebowski going on) and it would appear that Maude didn't want to waste her time having zesty coitus with the Dude if he was shooting blanks. He was there to check his ammo and make sure he could sire a little dude for Maude to raise. Not that Maude wanted to see the Dude socially, you understand. As far as the Dude was concerned, he was just helping his lady friend conceive, man. There was no gay thing involved in it. As far as we know, the Dude has his toast butter side up, mang. There is no evidence in TBL to the contrary.
Uh, yeah. I never mentioned anything gay going on. I've never had a prostate check but couldn't checking it be part of making sure he's not shooting blanks and the overall health of his reproductive system? Same with the testicle check, no cancer and all that.
I have no idea where people are getting this gay stuff from.
surely following the Dude's physical exam with "Looking out my back door" is just a little joke in reference to a prostate exam?
I sure the Dude wouldn't have some of the hang ups displayed on here about other folks sexual what have you's.