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Title: Marriage Laws in different states
Post by: bearded_dave on August 14, 2009, 08:51:40 PM
Dudes!

I was doing some research on this and it seems like CT (the state I live in at the moment) doesn't allow weddings to be performed by ordained ministers that are not active in the ministry. (http://wedlv.com/id98.html) I still have to check with my town clerk on the particulars, but it seems like the Dude can't go ahead and wed people like there's not tomorrow in Connecticut.

Here's a good list to start (http://usmarriagelaws.com/search/united_states/officiants_requirements/index.shtml), but I think we should maybe have a sticky or something in this forum on these issues.

This duder doesn't have $500 nor wants to spend a year in prison.  8)

Whaddaya think?
Title: Re: Marriage Laws in different states
Post by: Elbowski on August 15, 2009, 02:52:49 PM
I am not a Dudeist priest myself, however if I were, I would not be the slightest bit interested in filing any government forms of any kind in this endeavor. I believe wholeheartedly in the separation of church and state, and therefore reject state intrusion into such matters. A solution would be to perform what ever ceremony is deemed appropriate by the parties involved and let them attend to any legalities themselves. You could perhaps offer to consult them re: marriage license  forms and thus achieve the same result without bowing to outside authority, or challenging said authority.

We are free to create and recreate as we wish. A true Dude seeks to preserve that freedom. 
Title: Re: Marriage Laws in different states
Post by: greatspiritmonk on September 08, 2009, 01:59:39 AM
Right, unfortunately marriage, as well as other ceremonies have legal and economic effects. That's why there are rules. You are definitely right: the simplest way is for the people to have a civil ceremony with legal effects and then a Dudeist one. This way you should be able to perform legally everything.

Maybe the goverment doesn't like our freedom but in the "Free World" there is complete freedom of religion, until you go against the law. Strangely if your religion tells you to cut the throat of goats it's ok; if instead it tells you to be relaxed it is not. Two weights and two measures?
Title: Re: Marriage Laws in different states
Post by: Fitnessyoda on November 11, 2009, 02:20:16 PM
Hey Dudes!!  I am new here, so I appreciate your patience.  I think if people actually want you, as a Dudeist, to perform a ceremony it is perfectly cool.  I am entirely for separation of church and state, and I think the most wonderful expression of freedom of religion is that a person can become a Dudeist Priest and legally marry people.  Proof that we still live in a free and religiously tolerant society.  But, you know, that's just like my opinion man.
Title: Re: Marriage Laws in different states
Post by: greatspiritmonk on November 12, 2009, 01:37:47 AM
Far out man.  8)
Title: Re: Marriage Laws in different states
Post by: not_exactly_a_lightweight on November 12, 2009, 08:40:26 AM
This is interesting. I think its cool that I can tell my co-workers that I can perform a marriage.
But if I were asked, I would turn it down and try to get invited to the wedding.

This is my theory: the free liquor part of the wedding is for the guests, not the priest.

But you have also brought up a very important question, what would a person be charged with if he did perform a wedding and it happened to be illegal in your particular jurisdiction???
Practicing ??? without a license?
I must limber up before I ponder these questions with my friend wiki.
Title: Re: Marriage Laws in different states
Post by: meekon5 on November 13, 2009, 07:50:22 AM
Quote from: Fitnessyoda on November 11, 2009, 02:20:16 PM
Hey Dudes!!  I am new here, so I appreciate your patience.  I think if people actually want you, as a Dudeist, to perform a ceremony it is perfectly cool.

You could just do a Dudeist blessing rather than the whole legal thing, it is common for people here in the UK to have a blessing outside of the official registry office (where non religous people get their license).

Personally I have done blessings for other things as well for friends. (a Van going to the Dakar rally was possibly the bigest).
Title: Re: Marriage Laws in different states
Post by: Hylton on January 05, 2010, 05:37:23 PM
So like, you can only perform a wedding here in England if you get a licence from the registry office, not just because you're shown up in your white russian stained dressing gown?
Title: Re: Marriage Laws in different states
Post by: not_exactly_a_lightweight on January 05, 2010, 11:54:33 PM
Do you mean 'robe'? Are we going to split hares here?  :)
Title: Re: Marriage Laws in different states
Post by: meekon5 on January 18, 2010, 07:57:26 AM
Quote from: Hylton on January 05, 2010, 05:37:23 PM
So like, you can only perform a wedding here in England if you get a licence from the registry office, not just because you're shown up in your white russian stained dressing gown?

Nothing stopping you performing the ceremony, I know I have performed wedding ceremonies previously (mostly drunk and at parties). But the legality lies with the piece of paper (in the UK).

restrictions have recently (in the last ten years or so) been lifted on where you can have the ceremony, but the facists still insist you have a license to be legal.
Title: Re: Marriage Laws in different states
Post by: Emrys M on February 21, 2010, 04:37:34 AM
So we can [I havent actually become a priest. yet.] preform weddings in england? awesome
Title: Re: Marriage Laws in different states
Post by: Chan on June 21, 2010, 08:30:47 PM
In Maryland, any adult can sign as clergy, as long as the couple who are getting married agree that he is a clergy. The celebrant doesn't have to be a resident, register in advance, or fulfil any other requirements.

;D
Title: Re: Marriage Laws in different states
Post by: ispamforfood on June 23, 2010, 02:05:50 AM
The nice thing about Rhode Island is that their marriage law is very vague: Any ordained clergy can perform a marriage legally.  It's my understanding that they really CAN'T specify under what circumstances a reverend is given his ordination.... Separation of church and state and all.  The law basically states that any clergy properly ordained by the standard ordination procedure of the specific church is allowed to perform marriages legally.  It just so happens that the procedures involved with the dudeist church are that you put your name and some other info on a form online and submit it and thats it.  The state has no authority to regulate how a church practices its religious ceremonies.  They can only mandate that your ordination is done by the book in your specific denomination.  This state is one of the sane ones that actually recognizes this fact. 
Title: Re: Marriage Laws in different states
Post by: ispamforfood on July 12, 2010, 11:18:54 AM
See, this actually doesn't make a lot of sense... The law says "as long as they are active in the ministry"....... What defines "active in the ministry?" Having a church? Performing a marriage every 30 days? I could contend that "Active in the ministry" is simply promoting it by word of mouth.  How could they dispute it if there's no definition of "active in the ministry?"

Quote from: bearded_dave on August 14, 2009, 08:51:40 PM
Dudes!

I was doing some research on this and it seems like CT (the state I live in at the moment) doesn't allow weddings to be performed by ordained ministers that are not active in the ministry. (http://wedlv.com/id98.html) I still have to check with my town clerk on the particulars, but it seems like the Dude can't go ahead and wed people like there's not tomorrow in Connecticut.

Here's a good list to start (http://usmarriagelaws.com/search/united_states/officiants_requirements/index.shtml), but I think we should maybe have a sticky or something in this forum on these issues.

This duder doesn't have $500 nor wants to spend a year in prison.  8)

Whaddaya think?

Title: Re: Marriage Laws in different states
Post by: meekon5 on July 12, 2010, 11:37:16 AM
Quote from: ispamforfood on July 12, 2010, 11:18:54 AM
See, this actually doesn't make a lot of sense... The law says "as long as they are active in the ministry"....... What defines "active in the ministry?" Having a church? Performing a marriage every 30 days? I could contend that "Active in the ministry" is simply promoting it by word of mouth.  How could they dispute it if there's no definition of "active in the ministry?"


You think we have problems try this (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8493660.stm) on for size.

I think the position in Britain is anyone can do the blessing but you still need the "legal" ceremony. It just happens that a lot of christian clergy in Britain are licensed to perform the legal documentation.
Title: Re: Marriage Laws in different states
Post by: Rev. Ed C on July 12, 2010, 11:55:22 AM
Well, my feelings on the matter (as a man who's on the road to marriage sometime in the next few years) is that we're fine with a legal registrar doing a non-religious marriage for the sake of the law.  That satisfies the government, and we can add anything else to satisfy us on top.  I mean, as far as we're concerned we're already married, save for the legal recognition of a government we don't really respect of have much contact with, marriage is a state of mind and a state of being, a legally recognised marriage is the issue here, and as long as some bureaucrat gets the right piece of paper signed, he's happy, and we can satisfy ourselves there afterwards with an ceremony around it we see fit.

So a Dudeist priest can't do a ceremony without a registrar present?  Eh, it's no biggie.  If you're into a legally recognised marriage you have to accept the law will get involved, otherwise just get an unlawful ceremony and be happily married under common-law, that's what I say!
Title: Re: Marriage Laws in different states
Post by: meekon5 on July 12, 2010, 12:29:50 PM
Quote from: Rev. Ed C on July 12, 2010, 11:55:22 AM
....So a Dudeist priest can't do a ceremony without a registrar present?...

Actually I believe you can have a blessing anywhere you want, the registrar doesn't "need" to be there.

Recent changes in the law have permitted other places than registry offices and churches, for the legal ceremony, but I believe you could have the legal bit done then piss off and do what ever you really wanted, as long as the health and safety (health and hygiene, public liability, performing rights act, etc) regs are adhered to.

(PS applies to UK only, sorry chaps, but I suppose it could apply to other countries.)

Of course in the US you could use these nice people's (http://www.themonastery.org/) resources.

I was originally ordained by them quite a few years ago, and a lot of my American Pagan contacts at the time used them for similar purposes (the ability to have Pagan Weddings, etc).

Plus they have some good details on what you can and can't do in which states.
Title: Re: Marriage Laws in different states
Post by: Dude1967 on August 03, 2010, 03:29:39 PM
If the CT law states that you have to be "Active in the ministry", how can they prove that you are not?  I would challenge their interpretation of "Active", get your copy of the Dude De Ching, and read it to the city clerk, there you go: "Active in the ministry"!  After all, you are actively preaching and therefore "active in the ministry".  Am I wrong?
Title: Re: Marriage Laws in different states
Post by: ispamforfood on August 04, 2010, 11:03:04 PM
you're not "wrong" in the sense that the very phrase "active in the ministry" is very poorly defined... Thus is up for debate.  The only way to really settle it is for either the state to amend the law to be more strict (or more lenient) or you find a really good 1st amendment lawyer and take your case to the state supreme court.  It would certainly be cheaper to just lobby your congressmen to get them to consider a better definition of "active in the ministry"
Title: Re: Marriage Laws in different states
Post by: Rev. Gary (revgms) on August 04, 2010, 11:44:38 PM
Doesn't a letter of good standing cover that? Donno, just asking.

I read somewhere here that instead of Parishes, or Diocese, we should call Dudeist congregations, leagues, and smaller groups teams, that was a neat idea. (derailed train of thought there)

How can one be active in a belief system that preaches low activity?

Is doing a J regularly active? Like the Rastas, Ethiopian Coptics and Hindus with their Bahng
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c6/Bhangshop.jpg)
Title: Re: Marriage Laws in different states
Post by: Abideist on September 18, 2010, 01:58:23 PM
Quote from: bearded_dave on August 14, 2009, 08:51:40 PM

Here's a good list to start (http://usmarriagelaws.com/search/united_states/officiants_requirements/index.shtml), but I think we should maybe have a sticky or something in this forum on these issues.


Florida
All regularly ordained ministers of the gospel in communion with some church may perform marriages. --- Ministers must complete a certificate of marriage on the marriage license and return it to the office from which it was issued. --- For questions see the county clerk.

Groovey. Seems like I'll be cool to start marriage-izing any time.

Title: Re: Marriage Laws in different states
Post by: TurboKittie on March 01, 2011, 03:12:11 PM
So it looks like I can't officiate in my home state of Missouri, due to the wording of the law

QuoteMissouri
Marriages may be performed by any clergyman who is a citizen of the United States and who is in good standing with any church or synagogue in this state. --- Ministers must keep a record of all marriages they perform. They must give the couple a marriage certificate and must complete the marriage license and return it to the recorder of deeds within 90 days after the marriage license was issued. --- For questions see the recorder of deeds.

But I may be able to hop the river into Illinois with my letter of good standing

QuoteIllinois
Marriages may be performed by ministers of the gospel in regular standing in the church or society to which they belong. --- The marriage license and certificate must be completed by the minister and returned to the county clerk within 30 days after the marriage. --- For questions see the county clerk.

Good to know!

Title: Re: Marriage Laws in different states
Post by: Caesar dude on March 01, 2011, 06:30:52 PM
Good to see you here Turbokittie any rug.....etc...yep just hop along to the next state..just hop along and fuck the human paraquats that officiate in your state...

Gosh I do believe I'm rambling...probably the amount of oat sodas I've consumed..... 8)
Title: Re: Marriage Laws in different states
Post by: Caesar dude on March 01, 2011, 06:40:23 PM
Quote.yep just hop along to the next state..just hop along and fuck the human paraquats that officiate in your state...
I meant to add in the ass.

On re reading my post it means something else entirely....so sorry not my intention.  :o  :o
Title: Re: Marriage Laws in different states
Post by: DigitalBuddha on March 01, 2011, 10:02:12 PM
Quote from: revgms on August 04, 2010, 11:44:38 PM

How can one be active in a belief system that preaches low activity?

There are lots of ways, dude; snag a burger at the local In and Out, Bowl, zesty coitus, burning a J, driving around listening to Creedence, rug dancing, making a White Russian,  giving notes, but most important, just being yourself and abiding.
Title: Re: Marriage Laws in different states
Post by: not_exactly_a_lightweight on March 01, 2011, 10:55:59 PM
Whats the big deal with marriage anyways? My first marriage was over-raided.
She got the gold mine, I got the shaft.
Title: Re: Marriage Laws in different states
Post by: DigitalBuddha on March 02, 2011, 04:59:25 AM
:o At least it's an Ethos, dude...............

(http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/4115/ethos01.jpg)
Title: Re: Marriage Laws in different states
Post by: pirate on March 02, 2011, 05:11:31 AM
In India, the Swastika is used in two forms, one with the arms moving to the right, the right-handed Swastika, and the other with the arms moving to the left, the so-called "left-handed" occult Swastika. It is commonly thought that the Nazis used the left-handed Swastika and that this is the difference between the Hindu's use of the Swastika and the Nazi's use of it. But this is not the case. In fact, the Nazis used the same right-handed Swastika that is used in modern Hinduism, but gave it a 45 degree turn. This gives it the appearance of being left-handed, even though it is not. Regardless, in India many groups have used the left-handed Swastika. One common example amongst Hindu groups is the Theosophical Society, which used it on their logo. The left-handed Swastika is also associated with esoteric tantric practices. Jains and Buddhists often use the left handed Swastika as well. Today the right-handed Swastika is mainly used in Hindu temples, homes and sacred ceremonies as a symbol or affirmation of good luck, health and prosperity. A "yes" to life!
Quote from: digitalbuddha on March 02, 2011, 04:59:25 AM
:o At least it's an Ethos, dude...............

(http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/4115/ethos01.jpg)
Title: Re: Marriage Laws in different states
Post by: meekon5 on March 02, 2011, 05:47:38 AM
Quote from: digitalbuddha on March 02, 2011, 04:59:25 AM
:o At least it's an Ethos, dude...............

(http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/4115/ethos01.jpg)

Just a small point.

The Swastika is actually an ancient symbol (http://history1900s.about.com/cs/swastika/a/swastikahistory.htm) of good, credited with Juggernaut the Hindu god of thunder (http://www.mythencyclopedia.com/Iz-Le/Juggernaut.html), it is frequently used (by Hindu's).

It is only recently (since the 1900's) that the Nazis (and Facists) took the symbol and corrupted it's common meaning. The word Juggernaut itself has come to mean someone or something that destroys anything in it's path, which is why the Nazis probably took the symbol in the first place.

But here the symbol is being used in it's ancient and correct way as an invocation to Juggernaut to protect the establishment.

when the Golden Temple at Amritsar was desecrated there were pictures of a broken door with a swastika on the wall behind, these were also misinterpreted because it is the Hindu's and The Sikhs who fight over who should own and run the place and the swastika was painted by the Hindu's as a protection, not a racial statement.

see also http://reclaimtheswastika.com/photos/
Title: Re: Marriage Laws in different states
Post by: DigitalBuddha on March 02, 2011, 07:21:51 AM
True, M5, the nazis stole the symbol and turned it on it's side. Fucking nazis, nothing ever changes.
Title: Re: Marriage Laws in different states
Post by: karmatso on April 27, 2011, 01:54:27 PM
The swastika has appeared in many cultures throughout history, including Hindi, Buddhist, Native American, Celtic, Roman, Greek, and others.

In some Buddhist sects, it is used to signify Buddha's heart, and his footprints. It can also be an auspicious symbol bringing good fortune. It can be found on many Tibetan monasteries, and even clothing as a decoration. Due to the negative connotations, it has been left out for the most part when Buddhism has been brought to the west.

Getting back to the marriage question, I am curious as to how many have actually performed a Dudeist wedding. I think it would be great.
Title: Re: Marriage Laws in different states
Post by: cckeiser on April 27, 2011, 02:46:51 PM
Quote from: karmatso on April 27, 2011, 01:54:27 PM
The swastika has appeared in many cultures throughout history, including Hindi, Buddhist, Native American, Celtic, Roman, Greek, and others.

In some Buddhist sects, it is used to signify Buddha's heart, and his footprints. It can also be an auspicious symbol bringing good fortune. It can be found on many Tibetan monasteries, and even clothing as a decoration. Due to the negative connotations, it has been left out for the most part when Buddhism has been brought to the west.

Getting back to the marriage question, I am curious as to how many have actually performed a Dudeist wedding. I think it would be great.
Good post dude. Thanks for the info.
Welcome to the forum dude. Any rug in the place dude! 8)
Title: Re: Marriage Laws in different states
Post by: karmatso on April 30, 2011, 02:37:55 AM
Quote from: cckeiser on April 27, 2011, 02:46:51 PM
Quote from: karmatso on April 27, 2011, 01:54:27 PM
The swastika has appeared in many cultures throughout history, including Hindi, Buddhist, Native American, Celtic, Roman, Greek, and others.

In some Buddhist sects, it is used to signify Buddha's heart, and his footprints. It can also be an auspicious symbol bringing good fortune. It can be found on many Tibetan monasteries, and even clothing as a decoration. Due to the negative connotations, it has been left out for the most part when Buddhism has been brought to the west.

Getting back to the marriage question, I am curious as to how many have actually performed a Dudeist wedding. I think it would be great.
Good post dude. Thanks for the info.
Welcome to the forum dude. Any rug in the place dude! 8)

Thank You. Good to be here.
Title: Re: Marriage Laws in different states
Post by: meekon5 on April 30, 2011, 06:17:43 AM
Quote from: cckeiser on April 27, 2011, 02:46:51 PM
Quote from: karmatso on April 27, 2011, 01:54:27 PM
The swastika has appeared in many cultures throughout history, including Hindi, Buddhist, Native American, Celtic, Roman, Greek, and others.

In some Buddhist sects, it is used to signify Buddha's heart, and his footprints. It can also be an auspicious symbol bringing good fortune. It can be found on many Tibetan monasteries, and even clothing as a decoration. Due to the negative connotations, it has been left out for the most part when Buddhism has been brought to the west.

Getting back to the marriage question, I am curious as to how many have actually performed a Dudeist wedding. I think it would be great.
Good post dude. Thanks for the info.
Welcome to the forum dude. Any rug in the place dude! 8)

And the bars over there, welcome Dude.
Title: Re: Marriage Laws in different states
Post by: karmatso on April 30, 2011, 11:58:07 PM
Quote from: meekon5 on April 30, 2011, 06:17:43 AM
Quote from: cckeiser on April 27, 2011, 02:46:51 PM
Quote from: karmatso on April 27, 2011, 01:54:27 PM
The swastika has appeared in many cultures throughout history, including Hindi, Buddhist, Native American, Celtic, Roman, Greek, and others.

In some Buddhist sects, it is used to signify Buddha's heart, and his footprints. It can also be an auspicious symbol bringing good fortune. It can be found on many Tibetan monasteries, and even clothing as a decoration. Due to the negative connotations, it has been left out for the most part when Buddhism has been brought to the west.

Getting back to the marriage question, I am curious as to how many have actually performed a Dudeist wedding. I think it would be great.
Good post dude. Thanks for the info.
Welcome to the forum dude. Any rug in the place dude! 8)

And the bars over there, welcome Dude.

Thanks Dude!
Title: Re: Marriage Laws in different states
Post by: Pancake Waitress on July 20, 2011, 02:05:33 PM
Oh wow, am I late to this party, Dudes! I'm hoping someone can answer my question, though...

My state says
QuoteMarriages may be performed by any ordained minister of the gospel who resides in the state and is in good standing with his church. Ministers not residing in the state may obtain permission to perform a marriage upon application to the Secretary of State. --- Ministers must send a copy of the marriage certificate to the town clerk. ---For questions see the town clerk.

While I know that Dudeism absolutely is "the gospel," do you Dudes know what "the gospel" means in this legal sense? I'm hoping it doesn't just mean gospel of Abrahamic religions, but I can't figure that out.  ???
Title: Re: Marriage Laws in different states
Post by: Busmum on July 20, 2011, 03:27:55 PM
pancake waitress, i think it depends on the state in which you reside-- for example, california is very different from ohio:

snipped from http://www.cdph.ca.gov/certlic/birthdeathmar/Pages/FAQforMarriageLicenseCeremonyInfo.aspx

What authorization do I need to perform a marriage in California?
In California, it is the ordination or investment by the denomination that gives each clergy member the authority to perform the marriage rite. Family Code, Sections 400-402 are the statutes pertaining to whom can solemnize a marriage in California.
What statutes do I need to know to perform a marriage in California?
The marriage officiant who performs the marriage ceremony must know the California laws regarding the performance of a marriage and the requirements for officiants. Family Code, Sections 420-425 are the statutes pertaining to the performance of a marriage in California. Please visit California Legislative Information for the full Family Code sections.
Can Captains of the Salvation Army perform marriages in California?
Yes. Captains of the Salvation Army are permitted to perform marriages in California.
Can the captain of a ship solemnize a California marriage?
It depends. Ships? captains have no authority to solemnize California marriages unless they fall into one of the categories listed under Family Code, Section 400-401.
Can a Medicine Man perform marriages?
Yes. Native American religions are recognized as ?denominations.? A religious leader or a Shaman is authorized to perform marriages. If the title of the religious leader is Medicine Man, then he is eligible to perform marriages.

also, from http://law.onecle.com/california/family/400.html

California Family Code Section 400
Legal Research Home > California Laws > Family Code > California Family Code Section 400
Marriage may be solemnized by any of the following who is of the age of 18 years or older:    
(a) A priest, minister, rabbi, or authorized person of any religious denomination.    
(b) A judge or retired judge, commissioner of civil marriages or retired commissioner of civil marriages, commissioner or retired commissioner, or assistant commissioner of a court of record in this state.    
(c) A judge or magistrate who has resigned from office.    
(d) Any of the following judges or magistrates of the United States:    (1) A justice or retired justice of the United States Supreme Court.    (2) A judge or retired judge of a court of appeals, a district court, or a court created by an act of Congress the judges of which are entitled to hold office during good behavior.    (3) A judge or retired judge of a bankruptcy court or a tax court.    (4) A United States magistrate or retired magistrate.    
(e) A legislator or constitutional officer of this state or a Member of Congress who represents a district within this state, while that person holds office.  

apparently, the authorized person needs only to be able to file the certificate properly, according to Family Code 420-425. so the question remains... are we an officially recognized religious denomination?

remember, this isn't official advice... you would want to check it out, mang!  ;)
Title: Re: Marriage Laws in different states
Post by: Pancake Waitress on July 20, 2011, 05:54:01 PM
Thanks, Busmum!

I live in NH - a quick Google didn't turn up exactly what's meant by "of the gospel," but perhaps I'll try again when I have a leetle more time. I have a feeling it would be fine for Dudeist Priests to do this, but it's those three words that are confusing.

I really should just ask my Town Clerk, who is awesome, but this is a small town and I'm a little nervous it'd set tongues to wagging (liberal though it mostly is).
Title: Re: Marriage Laws in different states
Post by: Busmum on July 20, 2011, 11:22:33 PM
Quote from: Pancake Waitress on July 20, 2011, 05:54:01 PM
Thanks, Busmum!

I live in NH - a quick Google didn't turn up exactly what's meant by "of the gospel," but perhaps I'll try again when I have a leetle more time. I have a feeling it would be fine for Dudeist Priests to do this, but it's those three words that are confusing.

I really should just ask my Town Clerk, who is awesome, but this is a small town and I'm a little nervous it'd set tongues to wagging (liberal though it mostly is).

oooooH! a real-live town clerk? awesome! you could always say, "well, i've got this FRIEND, see.."  ;D

definitely ask-- even small town talk dies down after about 100 years, and more than a few witch burnings, lol...  ;)

keep us updated!
Title: Re: Marriage Laws in different states
Post by: Busmum on July 22, 2011, 12:04:58 AM
you know, i was thinking... some states offer a "deputy for the day" type of deal... and then there's always these people:

http://www.theamm.org/become-a-minister

if states accept it as a legal denomination... well yeah. and you can perform your ceremony in any style you wish, as long as the proper paperwork is done. a handy work around, maybe, until we can gain our own legal standing?
Title: Re: Marriage Laws in different states
Post by: Yvelysse on August 24, 2011, 04:37:54 PM
Sadly most states do not recognize common law.
Texas, the state I current reside in does. . . HOWEVER this does not make anything legal. I would do with Dudist marriages like I did with Homeschooling, I would make my own certificate for the wedded couples.
(My children have Homeschooling certificates of completion. They have been offered jobs with this and can still get a GED if they desire to legalize it.)

If the state recognizes it voila, all is good. If the state doesn't then they can go through other hoops.
(For legality purposes only.  I won't mention them here because it might cause a flood of other issues. Private me if you MUST know.)

I truly believe we have the right to perform a wedding/marriage for people who are willing to become a couple on their own volition. If I feel one of the pair, REALLY does not want to be bound to the other or sense any coercion I would not perform the ceremony. PeRoId
Title: Re: Marriage Laws in different states
Post by: BigBossMan on January 20, 2012, 02:41:58 AM
Quote from: Chan on June 21, 2010, 08:30:47 PM
In Maryland, any adult can sign as clergy, as long as the couple who are getting married agree that he is a clergy. The celebrant doesn't have to be a resident, register in advance, or fulfil any other requirements.

;D

Maryland changed the law in 2005.

Quote
2010 Maryland Code
FAMILY LAW
TITLE 2 - MARRIAGE
Subtitle 4 - Licensing and Performance
Section 2-406 - Performance of ceremony.
Share |

? 2-406. Performance of ceremony.


(a)  Authorized officials.- 

(1) In this subsection, "judge" means:

(i) a judge of the District Court, a circuit court, the Court of Special Appeals, or the Court of Appeals;

(ii) a judge approved under Article IV, ? 3A of the Maryland Constitution and ? 1-302 of the Courts Article for recall and assignment to the District Court, a circuit court, the Court of Special Appeals, or the Court of Appeals;

(iii) a judge of a United States District Court, a United States Court of Appeals, or the United States Tax Court; or

(iv) a judge of a state court if the judge is active or retired but eligible for recall.

(2) A marriage ceremony may be performed in this State by:

(i) any official of a religious order or body authorized by the rules and customs of that order or body to perform a marriage ceremony;

(ii) any clerk;

(iii) any deputy clerk designated by the county administrative judge of the circuit court for the county; or

(iv) a judge. 

So long as you have the Letter of Good Standing, you're good to go in Maryland.
Title: Re: Marriage Laws in different states
Post by: TulsaDudeistChick on June 02, 2012, 12:38:48 PM
Not sure if anyone has shared the Oklahoma experience so here goes....

All I needed was my official letter of good standing & a pulse. Seriously. I went to the Tulsa County Court House, presented the letter, gave them a copy I had already Xeroxed to speed up the process & I was given a voided Marriage License with instructions on how to complete it following the ceremony. I have an official book & page number -- and by the power vested in me by the State of Oklahoma, I am legally certified to perform marriages! I was shocked that there was no fee for me, I wasn't required to sign anything and I wasn't even ID'ed.
Title: Re: Marriage Laws in different states
Post by: RevKev on June 02, 2012, 04:34:07 PM
That's cool, man! Funny, I live in Tulsa and I was doing the research on the whole license thing just last week! I am glad to know they like, just take it easy on us, man.....    ;) 

Keep the faith :)
Title: Re: Marriage Laws in different states
Post by: RevMattson on September 20, 2012, 11:40:01 PM
Anybody ever tried in Michigan.  The laws stated are really confusing.  I don't want to pay ant fines.  Any fellow Dudeists in Michigan with incite?
Title: Re: Marriage Laws in different states
Post by: hotmaildotcom1 on January 22, 2013, 11:55:54 PM
I'm a recent addition to the dudes here. I have interest in doing a wedding later this July, but I'm completely at a loss for what to say. More importantly this dude does not have any money, or time to waste occupying any government administration buildings. I'm very actively combing the forums, keeping my mind limber and active. If anyone could point out some outside sources to guide this dude on his journey, he'd be happier than Karl Hungus on a cable call.
Title: Re: Marriage Laws in different states
Post by: Hominid on January 23, 2013, 12:11:27 AM
I don't have any officiating experience, but hey - welcome to our little beach community... grab a rug and an oat soda; bar's over there...
Title: Re: Marriage Laws in different states
Post by: DigitalBuddha on January 23, 2013, 02:48:56 AM
Quote from: hotmaildotcom1 on January 22, 2013, 11:55:54 PM
I'm a recent addition to the dudes here. I have interest in doing a wedding later this July, but I'm completely at a loss for what to say. More importantly this dude does not have any money, or time to waste occupying any government administration buildings. I'm very actively combing the forums, keeping my mind limber and active. If anyone could point out some outside sources to guide this dude on his journey, he'd be happier than Karl Hungus on a cable call.

Welcome hotmaildotcom1 dude; the ole' man said take any rug in the room, mamg! Bar's over there!
Title: Re: Marriage Laws in different states
Post by: hotmaildotcom1 on January 24, 2013, 08:45:58 PM
The greeting is far out man... far fuckin out. Im just happy that you've given The Dude a beeper. I've recently been looking into Washington State law, and up to this point it looks like I just have to convince the county clerk to sign the Pomeranian's papers. Along with some cash of course, the guy has to feed the monkey after all. Any additional research from fellow dick's, taking precious time away from the Knutsen search, would be greatly appreciated.
Title: Re: Marriage Laws in different states
Post by: cckeiser on January 24, 2013, 11:00:32 PM
Quote from: hotmaildotcom1 on January 24, 2013, 08:45:58 PM
The greeting is far out man... far fuckin out. Im just happy that you've given The Dude a beeper. I've recently been looking into Washington State law, and up to this point it looks like I just have to convince the county clerk to sign the Pomeranian's papers. Along with some cash of course, the guy has to feed the monkey after all. Any additional research from fellow dick's, taking precious time away from the Knutsen search, would be greatly appreciated.

Did you look here dude? http://www.usmarriagelaws.com/ (http://www.usmarriagelaws.com/)
Title: Re: Marriage Laws in different states
Post by: hotmaildotcom1 on January 30, 2013, 02:23:28 AM
Ya man. I haven't been super active in my posting, but I have been readin for quiet some time. I was just wondering if there was some unspoken dude out there, will to help me out.
Title: Re: Marriage Laws in different states
Post by: SeantheDude on February 25, 2015, 04:25:05 PM
As a heads up, Connecticut tends to take it easy in matters such as these.
I've been ordained since 2011 but just first officiated a marriage this month Southington, CT.
When I brought the marriage certificate to the Town Clerk she just needed to verify the "Letter of Good Standing" I hope all you Dudes bought when you were ordained.
They are now officially married in the eyes of the state, and they did not have another ceremony (civil/religious) this was a one-time Dudeist celebration.

Abide