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Deconstructing Lebowski => Lebowskian Philosophy => Topic started by: BikerDude on November 01, 2018, 02:33:12 PM

Title: Ties the room together
Post by: BikerDude on November 01, 2018, 02:33:12 PM
"Thirty spokes share the hub of a wheel;
yet it is its center that makes it useful.
You can mold clay into a vessel;
yet, it is its emptiness that makes it useful.
Cut doors and windows from the walls of a house;
but the ultimate use of the house
will depend on that part where nothing exists.
Therefore, something is shaped into what is;
but its usefulness comes from what is not."

? Tao Te Ching
Title: Re: Ties the room together
Post by: DigitalBuddha on November 04, 2018, 12:54:24 AM
Some kind of Eastern thing?
Title: Re: Ties the room together
Post by: Ookafa on November 05, 2018, 09:19:43 AM
Awareness is like space. Atoms are made of space. Objects are made of space. There?s space all around... where was I going with this? Oh yes, to say the universe is composed of stars is like saying the ocean is composed of fish and missing out on all the water.
Title: Re: Ties the room together
Post by: BikerDude on November 13, 2018, 06:59:44 AM
Quote from: Ookafa on November 05, 2018, 09:19:43 AM
Awareness is like space. Atoms are made of space. Objects are made of space. There?s space all around... where was I going with this? Oh yes, to say the universe is composed of stars is like saying the ocean is composed of fish and missing out on all the water.

Space is space.
Awareness is awareness.
Objects are objects.
Who would ever say the universe is composed of stars?
Title: Re: Ties the room together
Post by: BikerDude on November 13, 2018, 07:02:04 AM
I recommend the great Lawrence Krauss

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BRNtcj6YRuc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8blPsMXHRg0
Title: Re: Ties the room together
Post by: BikerDude on November 13, 2018, 07:30:54 AM
A deepity is a proposition that seems to be profound because it is actually logically ill-formed. It has (at least) two readings and balances precariously between them. On one reading it is true but trivial.
Title: Re: Ties the room together
Post by: BikerDude on November 13, 2018, 08:13:37 AM
 Welp, that about does her, wraps her all up.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ImvlS8PLIo
Title: Re: Ties the room together
Post by: Masked Dude on November 13, 2018, 06:11:14 PM
Quote from: BikerDude on November 13, 2018, 07:30:54 AM
A deepity is a proposition that seems to be profound because it is actually logically ill-formed. It has (at least) two readings and balances precariously between them. On one reading it is true but trivial.
True, but perceptual reality comprehends the progressive expansion of truth.
Title: Re: Ties the room together
Post by: BikerDude on November 14, 2018, 06:44:10 AM
Quote from: Masked Dude on November 13, 2018, 06:11:14 PM
Quote from: BikerDude on November 13, 2018, 07:30:54 AM
A deepity is a proposition that seems to be profound because it is actually logically ill-formed. It has (at least) two readings and balances precariously between them. On one reading it is true but trivial.
True, but perceptual reality comprehends the progressive expansion of truth.

Deepak Choppra?

I went to the random quote generator and I got a series of eerily similar crud.

"Perceptual reality compliments cosmic balance"
"The universe is a reflection of descriptions of experiences"
"The unexplainable unfolds through precious acceptance"
etc...

It has been said by some that the thoughts and tweets of Deepak Chopra are indistinguishable from a set of profound sounding words put together in a random order, particularly the tweets tagged with "#cosmisconciousness". This site aims to test that claim! Each "quote" is generated from a list of words that can be found in Deepak Chopra's Twitter stream randomly stuck together in a sentence.
Title: Re: Ties the room together
Post by: BikerDude on November 14, 2018, 06:48:31 AM
Quote from: Masked Dude on November 13, 2018, 06:11:14 PM
Quote from: BikerDude on November 13, 2018, 07:30:54 AM
A deepity is a proposition that seems to be profound because it is actually logically ill-formed. It has (at least) two readings and balances precariously between them. On one reading it is true but trivial.
True, but perceptual reality comprehends the progressive expansion of truth.

the comprehends is cool.
But the common assertion that perception and "truth" or the subjective are in fact linked is a ridiculous leap imo.
The perception becomes irrelevant beyond the basics.
It's like the saying "if you think you understand string theory, you don't understand string theory"
Or additional dimensions. Mathematically it's trivial to invoke additional dimensions but it's nearly impossible to "visualize" them or comprehend them. We simply have to use the "tools" to get to that truth.
Title: Re: Ties the room together
Post by: BikerDude on November 14, 2018, 08:40:04 AM
What can I say?
I'm difficult.
Title: Re: Ties the room together
Post by: Masked Dude on November 15, 2018, 06:31:12 PM
Quote from: BikerDude on November 14, 2018, 06:44:10 AM
Quote from: Masked Dude on November 13, 2018, 06:11:14 PM
Quote from: BikerDude on November 13, 2018, 07:30:54 AM
A deepity is a proposition that seems to be profound because it is actually logically ill-formed. It has (at least) two readings and balances precariously between them. On one reading it is true but trivial.
True, but perceptual reality comprehends the progressive expansion of truth.

Deepak Choppra?
Yeah, I used the Deepak generator. :D