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Title: To Digitalbuddha and other conservative dudes
Post by: sufidude on June 30, 2009, 06:31:40 AM
As a proud American with both a military and fig-eating background I feel the need to comment on the many camel fucker threads. I would simply like to point out that there is a difference between an Arab (many whom are Christian and Jewish); a Muslim, many of whom are pretty cool Sufi dudes; and a hypocritical and oppressive third-world type who uses his natural resources to buy the trappings of modern civilization without subscribing to any of its founding principles. The latter are indeed camel fuckers. It is a sad fact that many in the Arab world do indeed treat their camels better than their wives. Having said that, I sincerely believe that it is the "Bablyon System" pointed out by the Rastafari faith that lies at the heart of western spiritual corruption. The following are some chronological examples. I believe that the Jewish message of dudely abiding laid out in the ten commandments and Noahide laws were corrupted by the Babylonian Talmud. The Dudeist Christian message of neighborly love was corrupted in to a neo-Babylonian mystery cult. And finally, Islam was was corrupted by the violent, sexually perverse, and intolerant teachings of the hadith and sunnah. The hadith and sunnah are the alleged sayings and traditions of the prophet Muhammed that were written by the Baghdad-based, Babylonian Abbasid dynasty rulers as means of instituting totlitarianism several centuries after the prophet's death. Rastafari is the fourth great western religion whose insights should not be ignored. It is in this spirit of truth that I offer an olive branch of Thai stick to my fellow military and America loving dudes like Digitalbuddha. Hell, look at me, I'm rambling again- see ya on down the road dudes.
Title: Re: To Digitalbuddha and other conservative dudes
Post by: greatspiritmonk on July 18, 2009, 03:10:50 AM
It always amazes me how the human beings are so good at taking something right and transforming it in something quite wrong.
Take Christianity, which in my simple opinion died around a couple of months after Jesus' death and maybe today is coming out again; there where only two (quite intelligent) Commandments: there is only one God (meaning that all roads take you to Rome) and the so called Golden Rule: treat the others as you would like the others to treat you. But I personally add a little piece: then, if they piss on your rug, treat them as they treat you.
Now the Catholic religion, which claims to be Christian but it's false, has thousands of rules and it has been used to enslave people as much as Islamism. Well the difference if I'm right is that Mohammed preached the Holy War from the beginning, so they probably started wrong from the beginning. But those were also older times. I'm sure you know better than me the matter  ;D

Anyway I see a lot of similarities between Christianism and Dudeism. Sure that if Jesus had to come back we would accept him as a Dude while others will for sure kill him again.
Title: Re: To Digitalbuddha and other conservative dudes
Post by: Lebukowski on July 20, 2009, 02:23:21 PM
What are you? A fuckin park ranger?
Title: Re: To Digitalbuddha and other conservative dudes
Post by: brandt on July 21, 2009, 11:44:28 AM
Quote from: greatspiritmonk on July 18, 2009, 03:10:50 AM
It always amazes me how the human beings are so good at taking something right and transforming it in something quite wrong.
Take Christianity, which in my simple opinion died around a couple of months after Jesus' death and maybe today is coming out again; there where only two (quite intelligent) Commandments: there is only one God (meaning that all roads take you to Rome) and the so called Golden Rule: treat the others as you would like the others to treat you. But I personally add a little piece: then, if they piss on your rug, treat them as they treat you.
Now the Catholic religion, which claims to be Christian but it's false, has thousands of rules and it has been used to enslave people as much as Islamism. Well the difference if I'm right is that Mohammed preached the Holy War from the beginning, so they probably started wrong from the beginning. But those were also older times. I'm sure you know better than me the matter  ;D

Anyway I see a lot of similarities between Christianism and Dudeism. Sure that if Jesus had to come back we would accept him as a Dude while others will for sure kill him again.
Quote from: sufidude on June 30, 2009, 06:31:40 AM
As a proud American with both a military and fig-eating background I feel the need to comment on the many camel fucker threads. I would simply like to point out that there is a difference between an Arab (many whom are Christian and Jewish); a Muslim, many of whom are pretty cool Sufi dudes; and a hypocritical and oppressive third-world type who uses his natural resources to buy the trappings of modern civilization without subscribing to any of its founding principles. The latter are indeed camel fuckers. It is a sad fact that many in the Arab world do indeed treat their camels better than their wives. Having said that, I sincerely believe that it is the "Bablyon System" pointed out by the Rastafari faith that lies at the heart of western spiritual corruption. The following are some chronological examples. I believe that the Jewish message of dudely abiding laid out in the ten commandments and Noahide laws were corrupted by the Babylonian Talmud. The Dudeist Christian message of neighborly love was corrupted in to a neo-Babylonian mystery cult. And finally, Islam was was corrupted by the violent, sexually perverse, and intolerant teachings of the hadith and sunnah. The hadith and sunnah are the alleged sayings and traditions of the prophet Muhammed that were written by the Baghdad-based, Babylonian Abbasid dynasty rulers as means of instituting totlitarianism several centuries after the prophet's death. Rastafari is the fourth great western religion whose insights should not be ignored. It is in this spirit of truth that I offer an olive branch of Thai stick to my fellow military and America loving dudes like Digitalbuddha. Hell, look at me, I'm rambling again- see ya on down the road dudes.

What the fuck you talkin' about??

You're killin' your father, Larrys' ;D
Title: Re: To Digitalbuddha and other conservative dudes
Post by: digbys kid on July 21, 2009, 11:49:54 AM
Quote from: brandt on July 21, 2009, 11:44:28 AM
Quote from: greatspiritmonk on July 18, 2009, 03:10:50 AM
It always amazes me how the human beings are so good at taking something right and transforming it in something quite wrong.
Take Christianity, which in my simple opinion died around a couple of months after Jesus' death and maybe today is coming out again; there where only two (quite intelligent) Commandments: there is only one God (meaning that all roads take you to Rome) and the so called Golden Rule: treat the others as you would like the others to treat you. But I personally add a little piece: then, if they piss on your rug, treat them as they treat you.
Now the Catholic religion, which claims to be Christian but it's false, has thousands of rules and it has been used to enslave people as much as Islamism. Well the difference if I'm right is that Mohammed preached the Holy War from the beginning, so they probably started wrong from the beginning. But those were also older times. I'm sure you know better than me the matter  ;D

Anyway I see a lot of similarities between Christianism and Dudeism. Sure that if Jesus had to come back we would accept him as a Dude while others will for sure kill him again.
Quote from: sufidude on June 30, 2009, 06:31:40 AM
As a proud American with both a military and fig-eating background I feel the need to comment on the many camel fucker threads. I would simply like to point out that there is a difference between an Arab (many whom are Christian and Jewish); a Muslim, many of whom are pretty cool Sufi dudes; and a hypocritical and oppressive third-world type who uses his natural resources to buy the trappings of modern civilization without subscribing to any of its founding principles. The latter are indeed camel fuckers. It is a sad fact that many in the Arab world do indeed treat their camels better than their wives. Having said that, I sincerely believe that it is the "Bablyon System" pointed out by the Rastafari faith that lies at the heart of western spiritual corruption. The following are some chronological examples. I believe that the Jewish message of dudely abiding laid out in the ten commandments and Noahide laws were corrupted by the Babylonian Talmud. The Dudeist Christian message of neighborly love was corrupted in to a neo-Babylonian mystery cult. And finally, Islam was was corrupted by the violent, sexually perverse, and intolerant teachings of the hadith and sunnah. The hadith and sunnah are the alleged sayings and traditions of the prophet Muhammed that were written by the Baghdad-based, Babylonian Abbasid dynasty rulers as means of instituting totlitarianism several centuries after the prophet's death. Rastafari is the fourth great western religion whose insights should not be ignored. It is in this spirit of truth that I offer an olive branch of Thai stick to my fellow military and America loving dudes like Digitalbuddha. Hell, look at me, I'm rambling again- see ya on down the road dudes.

What the fuck you talkin' about??

You're killin' your father, Larrys' ;D


We're gonna cut you dick off, kid!
Title: Re: To Digitalbuddha and other conservative dudes
Post by: brandt on July 21, 2009, 11:52:51 AM
Quote from: digbys kid on July 21, 2009, 11:49:54 AM
Quote from: brandt on July 21, 2009, 11:44:28 AM
Quote from: greatspiritmonk on July 18, 2009, 03:10:50 AM
It always amazes me how the human beings are so good at taking something right and transforming it in something quite wrong.
Take Christianity, which in my simple opinion died around a couple of months after Jesus' death and maybe today is coming out again; there where only two (quite intelligent) Commandments: there is only one God (meaning that all roads take you to Rome) and the so called Golden Rule: treat the others as you would like the others to treat you. But I personally add a little piece: then, if they piss on your rug, treat them as they treat you.
Now the Catholic religion, which claims to be Christian but it's false, has thousands of rules and it has been used to enslave people as much as Islamism. Well the difference if I'm right is that Mohammed preached the Holy War from the beginning, so they probably started wrong from the beginning. But those were also older times. I'm sure you know better than me the matter  ;D

Anyway I see a lot of similarities between Christianism and Dudeism. Sure that if Jesus had to come back we would accept him as a Dude while others will for sure kill him again.
Quote from: sufidude on June 30, 2009, 06:31:40 AM
As a proud American with both a military and fig-eating background I feel the need to comment on the many camel fucker threads. I would simply like to point out that there is a difference between an Arab (many whom are Christian and Jewish); a Muslim, many of whom are pretty cool Sufi dudes; and a hypocritical and oppressive third-world type who uses his natural resources to buy the trappings of modern civilization without subscribing to any of its founding principles. The latter are indeed camel fuckers. It is a sad fact that many in the Arab world do indeed treat their camels better than their wives. Having said that, I sincerely believe that it is the "Bablyon System" pointed out by the Rastafari faith that lies at the heart of western spiritual corruption. The following are some chronological examples. I believe that the Jewish message of dudely abiding laid out in the ten commandments and Noahide laws were corrupted by the Babylonian Talmud. The Dudeist Christian message of neighborly love was corrupted in to a neo-Babylonian mystery cult. And finally, Islam was was corrupted by the violent, sexually perverse, and intolerant teachings of the hadith and sunnah. The hadith and sunnah are the alleged sayings and traditions of the prophet Muhammed that were written by the Baghdad-based, Babylonian Abbasid dynasty rulers as means of instituting totlitarianism several centuries after the prophet's death. Rastafari is the fourth great western religion whose insights should not be ignored. It is in this spirit of truth that I offer an olive branch of Thai stick to my fellow military and America loving dudes like Digitalbuddha. Hell, look at me, I'm rambling again- see ya on down the road dudes.

What the fuck you talkin' about??

You're killin' your father, Larrys' ;D


We're gonna cut you dick off, kid!

Have it your way D.KIDS.
Title: Re: To Digitalbuddha and other conservative dudes
Post by: DirtDude on July 22, 2009, 03:07:56 AM
Just one thing, Dude.  D'ya have to use s'many cuss words?
Title: Re: To Digitalbuddha and other conservative dudes
Post by: greatspiritmonk on July 22, 2009, 03:56:09 AM
Quote from: Lebukowski on July 20, 2009, 02:23:21 PM
What are you? A fuckin park ranger?

Nope, usually I'm the walrus of the forum, as I understand only around half of what is said. But this aggression won't stand as I'm studing the Dude lexicon and arranged for a copy of the movie. And in English too.  8)
Title: Re: To Digitalbuddha and other conservative dudes
Post by: Dude1967 on July 22, 2009, 12:34:23 PM
Quote from: DirtDude on July 22, 2009, 03:07:56 AM
Just one thing, Dude.  D'ya have to use s'many cuss words?

What the fuck are you talking about?
Title: Re: To Digitalbuddha and other conservative dudes
Post by: greatspiritmonk on July 23, 2009, 01:33:27 AM
Lost my train of thoughts here.
Title: Re: To Digitalbuddha and other conservative dudes
Post by: DirtDude on July 24, 2009, 07:15:35 PM
Quote from: Dude1967 on July 22, 2009, 12:34:23 PM
Quote from: DirtDude on July 22, 2009, 03:07:56 AM
Just one thing, Dude.  D'ya have to use s'many cuss words?

What the fuck are you talking about?

Huh?  No!  What the fuck are you talking--I'm not--we're talking about    unchecked aggression here--

What the fuck are you talking about?!  This Chinaman is not the issue!  I'm talking about drawing a line in the sand, Dude.  Across this line you do not, uh--and also, Dude, Chinaman is not the preferred, uh nomenclature. . . Asian-American.  Please.
Title: Re: To Digitalbuddha and other conservative dudes
Post by: sufidude on July 26, 2009, 01:26:29 PM
Quote from: DirtDude on July 24, 2009, 07:15:35 PMThis Chinaman is not the issue! 

I think he is. Y'see the guys that built our railroads are now our chief economic and military rivals, just as the camel fuckers that once gave us chemistry and algebra are now up to some pretty uncool shit in their parts of the world. My post was a plea for us to not let ourselves get uptight in our pointing out the undudely qualities of others. Just as Judaism, Christianity, and Islam have been corrupted by what Bob Marley would call isms and schisms- so too is dudeism (and all human ideas) capable of becoming just another outward form exclusion and mass control while losing its inner spiritual value. Just look at the history of the Rastafari dudes. The whole dogmatic structure and reverse racism thing was built in decades after Marcus Garvey and Haile Selassie by a guy called Leonard Howell.
Title: Re: To Digitalbuddha and other conservative dudes
Post by: Elbowski on July 26, 2009, 04:58:40 PM
Yeah Sufidude, I hear ya. We gotta be real careful 'bout steppin' into the domga do's and don'ts. Teachin' before preachin', that's the way to go.
Title: Re: To Digitalbuddha and other conservative dudes
Post by: greatspiritmonk on July 27, 2009, 01:56:40 AM
I don't know. Usually this happens when things get complicated, usually on purpose. If you have a few laws almost everyone knows them and can behave "right". If there are thousands (in Italy usually we have at least one a day, not always deleting the older ones  :'( ) then if someone wants you are always wrong. I use as an example Italy because everyone in every moment is breaking a law, so when needed everyone can always be found guilty. And this mean that someone has always power over you. Inquisition school: if you drown when throw to water bonded then you die, if you don't drown then you are a son of satan and get killed anyway.

The inner core of Dudeism is its simplicity, we have just three commandments and a general rule that if you don't infringe the rights of others you can do as you wish.
Splitting hairs usually takes there, even Taoism has become quite complicated, but as Bruce Lee said "you must take away, not add".
Might be also that if something is complicated there is the need to have someone to teach and direct you on the "right" road?

We are quite safe, but as humans we must keep a close watch on remaining simple and easy.
Title: Re: To Digitalbuddha and other conservative dudes
Post by: sufidude on July 27, 2009, 06:19:18 PM
Quote from: greatspiritmonk on July 27, 2009, 01:56:40 AM
I don't know. Usually this happens when things get complicated, usually on purpose.

You said it mahn! Most complexity comes about intentionally by the intrigues of the uptight, miserable pieces of shit that think life stops and starts at the command. aka: the rich- the square community who doesn't give a shit about us dudes or political pot prisoners, or disabled veterans. Slavery sneaks in that easily dude!
Title: Re: To Digitalbuddha and other conservative dudes
Post by: greatspiritmonk on July 28, 2009, 01:57:40 AM
You're right man. And as regards veterans it all begun when kings and generals quitted leading their armies in the front line and begun giving orders from home. It's easy to fight, and on the other end to say peace, when you are thousands of miles from war or violence. And easier then if none of your family is involved.
Here we have a saying for this, without any intention of being offensive, so put the missing letters by yourself. "It's easy to be g.. with someone's else ass." Or, and this applies to every politicians and unfortunately almost every goverment as a whole: it's easy to spend money not yours; or it's easy to make errors if you don't have to pay for them, and so on.
All comes down to Respect.

But as I said to a friend of mine: "We'll dudely rule the world!"  8)
Title: Re: To Digitalbuddha and other conservative dudes
Post by: DigitalBuddha on July 28, 2009, 11:43:43 PM
Quote from: sufidude on June 30, 2009, 06:31:40 AM
As a proud American with both a military and fig-eating background I feel the need to comment on the many camel fucker threads. I would simply like to point out that there is a difference between an Arab (many whom are Christian and Jewish); a Muslim, many of whom are pretty cool Sufi dudes; and a hypocritical and oppressive third-world type who uses his natural resources to buy the trappings of modern civilization without subscribing to any of its founding principles. The latter are indeed camel fuckers. It is a sad fact that many in the Arab world do indeed treat their camels better than their wives. Having said that, I sincerely believe that it is the "Bablyon System" pointed out by the Rastafari faith that lies at the heart of western spiritual corruption. The following are some chronological examples. I believe that the Jewish message of dudely abiding laid out in the ten commandments and Noahide laws were corrupted by the Babylonian Talmud. The Dudeist Christian message of neighborly love was corrupted in to a neo-Babylonian mystery cult. And finally, Islam was was corrupted by the violent, sexually perverse, and intolerant teachings of the hadith and sunnah. The hadith and sunnah are the alleged sayings and traditions of the prophet Muhammed that were written by the Baghdad-based, Babylonian Abbasid dynasty rulers as means of instituting totlitarianism several centuries after the prophet's death. Rastafari is the fourth great western religion whose insights should not be ignored. It is in this spirit of truth that I offer an olive branch of Thai stick to my fellow military and America loving dudes like Digitalbuddha. Hell, look at me, I'm rambling again- see ya on down the road dudes.

Wha I'll admit that I am a little on the conservative side (got the whole conservative thing going on), I respect any reasonable point of view from any coherent dude. I am the one responsible for most of the camel fucker threads. Its all cool, I find it (the camel fucker thing) a way to poke a bit of fun at a theme in the movie. And let me tell you something: I dig your work. Playing one side against the other--in bed with everybody--fabulous stuff, man.

So don't get too upset if I go over the line sometimes; no harm intended.

Mark it eight and welcome to the bar, sufidude  :)
Title: Re: To Digitalbuddha and other conservative dudes
Post by: greatspiritmonk on July 29, 2009, 01:36:38 AM
"Playing one side against the other--in bed with everybody--fabulous stuff, man."

You mean coitus?  ;D
Title: Re: To Digitalbuddha and other conservative dudes
Post by: DigitalBuddha on July 29, 2009, 01:22:11 PM
Quote from: greatspiritmonk on July 29, 2009, 01:36:38 AM
"Playing one side against the other--in bed with everybody--fabulous stuff, man."

You mean coitus?  ;D

My art has been commended as being strongly vaginal.  ;D
Title: Re: To Digitalbuddha and other conservative dudes
Post by: sufidude on July 29, 2009, 08:51:52 PM
Quote from: digitalbuddha on July 28, 2009, 11:43:43 PM
Wha I'll admit that I am a little on the conservative side.

So am I. I get a military vibe off of you and feel a literal connection coming from a long line of servicemen as I do. I just don't think that we should give up on folks or areas because the reigning ethos is uptight. Never took any offense at the threads. I'm just saying from experience that it really amazes me how many folks are willing to assume that an Arab American National Guardsman with a Jewish girlfriend is un-American or antisemitic. But I do think some things that are probably not cool with most Christians and Jews, namely that the faiths have been subverted to the service of self and money. Unlike most Arabs, I can plainly see that this truth is also applicable to Islam. Maybe that is the definition of playing one side against another. Either way, this world needs more Da Fino's and Bob Marley's; compeers  willing to trade notes and chant down Babylon while not spilling their beverages.
Peace dudes,  8)
Title: Re: To Digitalbuddha and other conservative dudes
Post by: greatspiritmonk on July 30, 2009, 01:58:29 AM
I love this place: different points of views which always end in the same way: going to the bar together for some more oat sodas. We should definitely apply to be "teacher" of diplomacy. No more wars from us!

As regards the matter for me it is this way: people can be divided in very good-good-those in the middle-bad-evil. Then those in the middle can be further identified as neutral or those who follow the greatest flock.

The point is it is not your place of birth that "makes" you but your behaviour, in respect to fellow human beings and nature.
But at the same time it is also true that people living in the same place can show similar features, either good or bad. An example is Sweden, on the good side, and another is Albania. But if someone is born in a place with bad values which do not suit him he can always go away, if he remains then probably his own values are not so good.

So, since usually I make a little mess with English, only your behaviour defines you, and you have no excuses for it, it depends only on your will.

Hmm, maybe I should drink some more beers.  8)
Title: Re: To Digitalbuddha and other conservative dudes
Post by: DigitalBuddha on July 30, 2009, 02:22:44 AM
Quote from: sufidude on July 29, 2009, 08:51:52 PM
Quote from: digitalbuddha on July 28, 2009, 11:43:43 PM
Wha I'll admit that I am a little on the conservative side.

So am I. I get a military vibe off of you and feel a literal connection coming from a long line of servicemen as I do. I just don't think that we should give up on folks or areas because the reigning ethos is uptight. Never took any offense at the threads. I'm just saying from experience that it really amazes me how many folks are willing to assume that an Arab American National Guardsman with a Jewish girlfriend is un-American or antisemitic. But I do think some things that are probably not cool with most Christians and Jews, namely that the faiths have been subverted to the service of self and money. Unlike most Arabs, I can plainly see that this truth is also applicable to Islam. Maybe that is the definition of playing one side against another. Either way, this world needs more Da Fino's and Bob Marley's; compeers  willing to trade notes and chant down Babylon while not spilling their beverages.
Peace dudes,  8)

My family is military: Father, brother, sister; I stayed out of the military at my Father's request and did the reserve cop thing instead. Three years (which was long enough). Yup, a lot of the world is undude and definitely Babylon, mon. People need to abide and mellow out a bit. Too fucking uptight.
Title: Re: To Digitalbuddha and other conservative dudes
Post by: greatspiritmonk on July 30, 2009, 02:28:53 AM
Fucking A, man. Fucking A.