Hi, I don't know if anyone is with me, but I thought it could be interesting to talk about being a Priest: how we work as Priests, how we talk to others, what we give to our friends as Priests, cerimonies or services....
As an example my focus on being a priest is on healing prayers and spiritual consulting: any idea?
At first I wanted to preach the abiding word to others, but a wiser forum fella than myself once said to just show them them how its done. For example, show an atheist how abiding is an evolutionary advantage, show a Christian how abiding fellas love their neighbors, show a Jew how abiding is the best of all mitzvahs, show a Buddhist how abiding is itself a state of nirvana, show a Muslim how abiding is preferable to jihad, etc... To me, being a dude and a priest is about living a worthy example, to literaaly take it easy for all us sinners out their.
I don't get the sense that Dudeism is a proselytizing religion. We aren't mandated to recruit or convince anyone of our right minded belief systems.
However, when asked directly we should offer the wisdom of The Dude, so long as it does not interfere with keeping one's mind limber.
Bringing a sense of disengaged calm to any moment is probably the best use of one's ministry, whether it be at a marriage, funeral or other event.
Quote from: kornkob on June 25, 2009, 09:35:25 PM
I don't get the sense that Dudeism is a proselytizing religion. We aren't mandated to recruit or convince anyone of our right minded belief systems.
However, when asked directly we should offer the wisdom of The Dude, so long as it does not interfere with keeping one's mind limber.
Bringing a sense of disengaged calm to any moment is probably the best use of one's ministry, whether it be at a marriage, funeral or other event.
Fuckin' A, man!
Quote from: kornkob on June 25, 2009, 09:35:25 PM
I don't get the sense that Dudeism is a proselytizing religion. We aren't mandated to recruit or convince anyone of our right minded belief systems.
However, when asked directly we should offer the wisdom of The Dude, so long as it does not interfere with keeping one's mind limber.
Bringing a sense of disengaged calm to any moment is probably the best use of one's ministry, whether it be at a marriage, funeral or other event.
So you mean we are just an internet club? I mean if Dudeism is Taoism for the modern day spiritualist, that is something more than a movie fans club, and the ordained Priests want to give a kind of professional service when asked, how can we provide it? Wearing a bath robe and flip flop is'nt enough, even if I repeat abide every 5 seconds. So if I spread the word of Dudeism with example is it enough? Really?
I mean that I agree with you that being a Dudeist means taking life easy for oneself, but being a Dudeist Priest? Shouldn't be something more than having an ordination certificate on a wall, if someone wants to?
Yeah well, that's just, ya know, like, your opinion, man.
if you're getting asked to provide professional services, then by all means, you should achieve the modest task which is your charge.
however, if you just want to enjoy the message and use it to inform your own life that's cool too.
theravada buddhism, traditional taoism and jewish kabbalah all approach their religion in exactly that way. they are non-proselytizing religions, unlike christianity and islam, which have as a central directive to spread the faith actively, though often at the end of a sword.
so, then, any dudeist who feels that they could help other people by spreading the dude word are wholeheartedly encouraged to do so. but those who just want to adopt it as a worldview to enrich their own lives -- gotta feed the monkhood, man -- that's cool. that's cool.
still, greatspiritmonk has a point - if you WANT to spread dudeism, what's a good way to go about it? anybody got any leads?
Quote from: forumdude on June 26, 2009, 02:54:21 AM
if you're getting asked to provide professional services, then by all means, you should achieve the modest task which is your charge.
however, if you just want to enjoy the message and use it to inform your own life that's cool too.
theravada buddhism, traditional taoism and jewish kabbalah all approach their religion in exactly that way. they are non-proselytizing religions, unlike christianity and islam, which have as a central directive to spread the faith actively, though often at the end of a sword.
so, then, any dudeist who feels that they could help other people by spreading the dude word are wholeheartedly encouraged to do so. but those who just want to adopt it as a worldview to enrich their own lives -- gotta feed the monkhood, man -- that's cool. that's cool.
still, greatspiritmonk has a point - if you WANT to spread dudeism, what's a good way to go about it? anybody got any leads?
Thanks, that's what I was trying to say. When it comes down to weddings, funerals, praying for the sick and so on, how can we do it? Or, how can we go from theory to practice beside ourselves?
What do you mean 'how can we do it'? You just get it done in the moment.
At weddings-- wed. At funerals, speak. When someone's sick, offer your strength. When asked by civil authorities to present documentation of your ordination, get your papers out.
Why does everything have to be so complicated?
but seriously... what is it you are looking for that isn't already provided in these forums or, presumably, in your heart?
It seems that everything, even The Dude, can be taken too seriously.
Will you just take it easy!!
You're thinking about this case has become really uptight.
Abiding, as I understand it, isn't concerned with correctness. You ARE a dudeist priest. Now, stop trying to be one.
Quote from: greatspiritmonk on June 26, 2009, 03:19:27 AM
Thanks, that's what I was trying to say. When it comes down to weddings, funerals, praying for the sick and so on, how can we do it? Or, how can we go from theory to practice beside ourselves?
If your looking for potential sacraments and rituals to incorporate into your ministry, I see what you're getting at. I incorporate a fairly strict drug regimen into mine. At weddings, sermons, sick visits, and funerals; a few brief and meaningful passages from the Tao te Ching, Dhammapadha, Book of Ecclesiastes, or some Jesus parables should suffice. Remember, as dudes, we're free to utilize that which is abiding in all faiths to the benefit of others and our own. As for other sacraments, foster friendship with a fat J and a couple rounds on the lanes- You can even assign a day of the week to this. White Russians should also be shared among the faithful.
Quote from: digbys kid on June 26, 2009, 09:14:48 AM
It seems that everything, even The Dude, can be taken too seriously.
Will you just take it easy!!
You're thinking about this case has become really uptight.
Abiding, as I understand it, isn't concerned with correctness. You ARE a dudeist priest. Now, stop trying to be one.
Exactly. What does it mean being a Dudeist Priest? It it only taking life easy and being an example of this to other or is it something more?
Quote from: kornkob on June 26, 2009, 08:48:14 AM
What do you mean 'how can we do it'? You just get it done in the moment.
At weddings-- wed. At funerals, speak. When someone's sick, offer your strength. When asked by civil authorities to present documentation of your ordination, get your papers out.
Why does everything have to be so complicated?
but seriously... what is it you are looking for that isn't already provided in these forums or, presumably, in your heart?
Nothing, I just wanted to talk with someone else interested in being a Dudeist Priest and to learn more about it from people wiser than myself:)
Quote from: sufidude on June 26, 2009, 09:31:36 AM
Remember, as dudes, we're free to utilize that which is abiding in all faiths to the benefit of others and our own. White Russians should also be shared among the faithful.
That's one of the things I was looking for! Thank you!
Quote from: kornkob on June 25, 2009, 09:35:25 PM
I don't get the sense that Dudeism is a proselytizing religion. We aren't mandated to recruit or convince anyone of our right minded belief systems.
However, when asked directly we should offer the wisdom of The Dude, so long as it does not interfere with keeping one's mind limber.
Bringing a sense of disengaged calm to any moment is probably the best use of one's ministry, whether it be at a marriage, funeral or other event.
"Disengaged calm", that's interesting, very fucking interesting......another form of just take it easy, man.....too much saying peep(proselytizing) when somebody is doing business will often get you an unqualified, "I'm sorry, I wasn't listening"
That's just like my opinion, man
Quote from: brandt on June 26, 2009, 04:02:39 PM
Quote from: kornkob on June 25, 2009, 09:35:25 PM
I don't get the sense that Dudeism is a proselytizing religion. We aren't mandated to recruit or convince anyone of our right minded belief systems.
However, when asked directly we should offer the wisdom of The Dude, so long as it does not interfere with keeping one's mind limber.
Bringing a sense of disengaged calm to any moment is probably the best use of one's ministry, whether it be at a marriage, funeral or other event.
"Disengaged calm", that's interesting, very fucking interesting......another form of just take it easy, man.....too much saying peep(proselytizing) when somebody is doing business will often get you an unqualified, "I'm sorry, I wasn't listening"
That's just like my opinion, man
I agree with you. I can't stand too people who "hassle" me with their unrequested spiritual beliefs. But, as an example, the forum has 524 members while Dudeism has more than 40.000 ordained Priests. Could this mean that we are too much concentrated on ourselves? I know we don't "preach" and we are the slowest growing religion:); I mean that if I want to be "enlightened" by myself is ok, but if I want to do something more? And if people around needs something more? I can't go for example to someone sick and start talking like a movie character: this could upset him or feel that I'm joking with his sickness.
If I think that Dudeism is a good answer to a lot of world's problem, and I do, shouldn't I do something more? So maybe people around get happier? Or can have a professional service from me, and my world view too? I agree that example is the first thing to do but I would like to be also professional as a Priest. As I said for me is something more than a piece of paper on a wall. And as someone else said on the forum you can be a dudeist even if you have a successful business running.
So if a Dudeist is an example of a life taken easy, what is a Dudeist Priest? If the world would be a better place if full of Dudeists what does the Priests have to do to go toward this goal?
Thanks to everyone for all the insights.
Quote from: greatspiritmonk on June 27, 2009, 02:09:16 AM
Quote from: brandt on June 26, 2009, 04:02:39 PM
Quote from: kornkob on June 25, 2009, 09:35:25 PM
I don't get the sense that Dudeism is a proselytizing religion. We aren't mandated to recruit or convince anyone of our right minded belief systems.
However, when asked directly we should offer the wisdom of The Dude, so long as it does not interfere with keeping one's mind limber.
Bringing a sense of disengaged calm to any moment is probably the best use of one's ministry, whether it be at a marriage, funeral or other event.
"Disengaged calm", that's interesting, very fucking interesting......another form of just take it easy, man.....too much saying peep(proselytizing) when somebody is doing business will often get you an unqualified, "I'm sorry, I wasn't listening"
That's just like my opinion, man
I agree with you. I can't stand too people who "hassle" me with their unrequested spiritual beliefs. But, as an example, the forum has 524 members while Dudeism has more than 40.000 ordained Priests. Could this mean that we are too much concentrated on ourselves? I know we don't "preach" and we are the slowest growing religion:); I mean that if I want to be "enlightened" by myself is ok, but if I want to do something more? And if people around needs something more? I can't go for example to someone sick and start talking like a movie character: this could upset him or feel that I'm joking with his sickness.
If I think that Dudeism is a good answer to a lot of world's problem, and I do, shouldn't I do something more? So maybe people around get happier? Or can have a professional service from me, and my world view too? I agree that example is the first thing to do but I would like to be also professional as a Priest. As I said for me is something more than a piece of paper on a wall. And as someone else said on the forum you can be a dudeist even if you have a successful business running.
So if a Dudeist is an example of a life taken easy, what is a Dudeist Priest? If the world would be a better place if full of Dudeists what does the Priests have to do to go toward this goal?
Thanks to everyone for all the insights.
Lotta ins, lotta outs, lotta what have yous. Sometimes the strands in the old duders head need to free fall. The feeling that once something(dudeism) gets too organized in dogma, the whole enchalada goes south....imagination, ideas ,get questioned and dissected. Becomes too "in there" as opposed to" out there." Whatever the fuck I'm trying to say. Too many commercial-type rules and shit could creep and destroy three thousand years of......Like Groucho said, "any club that would have me as a member, I give a wide berth,"or words to that effect. Now there was a Dude for his time and beyond.
But I dig your thoughtful introspection.
But as usual, that's just like my opinion, man.
Quote from: brandt on June 27, 2009, 06:54:26 AM
As I said for me is something more than a piece of paper on a wall. And as someone else said on the forum you can be a dudeist even if you have a successful business running.
So if a Dudeist is an example of a life taken easy, what is a Dudeist Priest? If the world would be a better place if full of Dudeists what does the Priests have to do to go toward this goal?
Thanks to everyone for all the insights.
I totally get where you're coming from, and to a certain degree feel the same way. I want to effect real change in the world with my dudeism and live up to my ordination. Are you thinking along the lines of an actual ministry or a missionary effort? For example, a "real" ministry could just be a makeshift church. In the poorer areas of Long Beach there are all kinds of store front churches providing comfort to the down on their luck. A place where others can come to vent and share spiritual stuff from different sources would be awesome. I was thinking of maybe one day combining this approach with a free food for the needy type thing and a (CA-legal) medical marijuana dispensary. As for the missionary approach, well you're on your own there dude.
Well, at least we are two:)
You know, in Italy not much people has seen the movie and I guess there are at most 500 people who know that exists the word "Dude" and I don't know how many know about Dudeism. I am too learning about it and since, it's my opinion, the difference between a Dudeist and a Dudeist Priest is that the Priest has the goal of spreading Dudeism, in one way or another, plus providing professional services to "followers", I'm trying to figure out first what Dudeism is as a religion (beside taking life easy) and secondly how to spread it here. With the added bonus that being Italy the Catholic country here it isn't an easy task and I should make no errors. First for me and then for Dudeism. I believe that the "taking life easy" philosophy should be spread as much as possible, for the benefits of all. For me it isn't a religion but could be the religion:)
So, these could be the main features of a Dudeist Priest:
He is an example of what he "preaches"(mainly being one thing with the universe);
takes life easy trying to do the right thing, at the right time, in the right way (Wu Wei);
when asked explains Dudeism's point of view and gives advices on living an easy/simple life;
when asked provides professional religious services;
Any other suggestion?
Quote from: greatspiritmonk on June 30, 2009, 02:13:56 AM
Any other suggestion?
Yeah man, Italy is a strongly Catholic country, may I suggest showing others the Dudeist aspects of Jesus' message? The books of James and Jude were written by his brothers and offer insight into the pre-Orthodox faith, one of good conduct, good deeds, and good intentions. Also- Rome and Milan have large Jewish minorities, perhaps sharing the Dudeist message of King Solomon's writings with them can help, the preverbs, song of songs, and ecclesiastes are all very dude worthy. Finally, among Italy's many Muslims immigrants, remind them of Suras 91, 95, 102, 103, 107, 109, and 112- all of which take a "to each his own" stance with regards to faith. Sura 107 explicity defines an unbeliever as one who is thoughtless of the needy, self righteous, and uncharitable to their neighbors. All faiths are compatible with Dudeism because Dudeism is a way of thinking and acting that enhances who you are- it never replaces who you are. Take care dude.
Sufidude, you are not only wiser, but also more "knowledgeable" (?) than me.
Really thank you for your advices, I'll check them and learn them. And this sentence is great : "All faiths are compatible with Dudeism because Dudeism is a way of thinking and acting that enhances who you are- it never replaces who you are."
You are really helping me a lot. Hope you will go on with this :)
Thank you very much dude!
Glad to help, see ya on down the trail there dude.
;D
Sufidude, you should send this sentence to be included in the Tao of Dude: "All faiths are compatible with Dudeism because Dudeism is a way of thinking and acting that enhances who you are- it never replaces who you are."
The more I think about it the more I like it. Simple, clear, complete.
To summarize Dudeism point of view do you think this is right?
"Between consenting adult everything is fine." As a general rule of thumb for tolerance.
Quote from: greatspiritmonk on July 03, 2009, 03:16:04 AM
Sufidude, you should send this sentence to be included in the Tao of Dude
Why don't you send it in? If you like that much- then its yours. I'm like Lao Tzu: I don't care who gets credit for my ideas, as long as they help others.
Then I'll exchange yours for this one: A Dudeist is a surfer on the sea of life. :)
It's a deal!
8)
I am the walrus.
I am the walrus.
I am the walrus.
Shut the Fuck UP WeAreSame, V.I. Lenin- Vladimir Ilyich Uliyinov!!!
Sufidude, since you are a wiser fella than myself I've prepared a little summary from the site on Dudeism. Do you think it misses something?
Dudeism: Taoism for the modern day spiritualist or The way to simplicity
Tenets (Statement of Beliefs):
Take life easy(, and avoid being too uptight).
Abide.
Tend to your own little garden.
Respect for Nature as a whole (human beings, animals, plants...).
Further concepts:
All faiths are compatible with Dudeism because Dudeism is a way of thinking and acting that enhances who you are- it never replaces who you are. :)
A Dudeist is a surfer on the sea of life.
As regards the others a Dudeist accepts that between consenting adults everything is fine. That is to say "Happy you, happy everyone."
A Dudeist abides, but never flexes more than 100?, he defends the line he draws with his life.
A Dudeist tends his little garden, doesn't walk in others' gardens and if asked gives advices on gardening.
A Dudeist applies Wu Wei (shrewd acting) on everything; doing the right thing in the right moment in the right way.
Whatever happens a Dudeist is always in the eye of the storm.
If you piss on a Dudeist's rug then you'll find yourself in a world of pain, or directly inside the storm.
Would you add something else?
Thanks.
Quote from: greatspiritmonk on July 06, 2009, 02:32:37 AM
Would you add something else?
Thanks.
It all looks good from here, but i would add a sense of love to the equation: to love what you do, when you're doing it, for the sake of doing it. Without a true love of whatever you're practice is, bowling or smoking a J, it all becomes escapism. It reminds me of Jim Morrison from the Doors. When it all began, he drank for the love of it and the people he did it with. But towards the end, he drank because that's what drunks do. Take care dude, and stay in love with you're garden.
Dudeism: Taoism for the modern day spiritualist or The way to simplicity
Tenets (Statement of Beliefs):
Take life easy(, and avoid being too uptight).
Abide.
Tend to your own little garden.
Respect for Nature as a whole (human beings, animals, plants...).
Love what you do, when you're doing it, for the sake of doing it. :) :) :)
+ Be one with the Universe
Further concepts:
All faiths are compatible with Dudeism because Dudeism is a way of thinking and acting that enhances who you are- it never replaces who you are.
A Dudeist is a surfer on the sea of life.
As regards the others a Dudeist accepts that between consenting adults everything is fine. That is to say "Happy you, happy everyone."
A Dudeist abides, but never flexes more than 100?, he defends the line he draws with his life.
A Dudeist tends his little garden, doesn't walk in others' gardens and if asked gives advices on gardening.
A Dudeist applies Wu Wei (shrewd acting) on everything; doing the right thing in the right moment in the right way.
Whatever happens a Dudeist is always in the eye of the storm.
If you piss on a Dudeist's rug then you'll find yourself in a world of pain, or directly inside the storm.
A blessing for beverages.
One makes two, two makes three, three makes everything that exists. The Universe has given us this wonderful drink. May this ..... regenerate those who drink it, keeping an healty body, a limber mind and a flying spirit. (Exhale on it)
Should work on everything, especially oat sodas, white russians, but also water.
A blessing for a bowling ball:
You and I are one
the pins are many
and my enemies too...
down the lane of time
your path is mine.
:)
Quote from: greatspiritmonk on July 06, 2009, 04:05:16 AM
If you piss on a Dudeist's rug then you'll find yourself in a world of pain, or directly inside the storm.
That sure seems very un-Dude to me.
As I recall the historical document of Dude's experience indicated that not only did the Dude not attempt to cause the rug peer any pain but instead of pursuing the rug peer, he approached the Big Lebowski, who appeared to be the actual cause of the room being untied.
Walter threatens worlds of pain. The Dude thinks you should all calm the fuck down.
Course, that's just my opinion man--- but if you're asking for notes.....
You are right, but that's a movie. In the real world if someone cross the line you have to defend it.
In my opinion a Dudeist is a non-violent, but it's not a pacifist. That is violence as a last resort is perfectly right, for example if you have to defend yourself or others. There are times when calming down is simply not possible, at least in the real world. Not because of you but of others.
I'm not violent, and if I can avoid problems I do, but if I wake up in the middle of the night and find a stranger in my home, well, it's his problem.
I mean for a Dudeist violence is the last resort, but if you must use it, use it well. A Dudeist fight his battles for himself. And cares for his little garden. And for his rug.
Thanks for your notes. :)
Quote from: sufidude on July 09, 2009, 02:21:32 PM
A blessing for a bowling ball:
You and I are one
the pins are many
and my enemies too...
down the lane of time
your path is mine.
:)
You mean smashing them in the same way?
Quote from: greatspiritmonk on July 10, 2009, 02:41:18 AM
You mean smashing them in the same way?
The ball doesn't smash anything, momentum does. Follow your set path and set obstacles will remove themselves, but if they don't you might end up in the gutter.
But anyway the ball arrives in the same place (I don't know the name for it), where it get collected and given back to you. Interesting concept. Very deep concept man. The end is the same, what changes is your score.
What ho fellow priests and other dudes
Long time dude, first time posting
Recently I been thinking to the end of life, hey I got a little dude to think of and there is a will to be written so I turn my thoughts to: "Just how the fuck, do I want to go out?"
So I get to planning what my ideal Dudeist funeral would be like:
Folks get invited to turn up to a pub (Brass Monkey) in Edinburgh in their dressing gown and slippers - bring a glass
http://www.flashearth.com/?lat=55.947335&lon=-3.185433&z=18.5&r=0&src=msl (http://www.flashearth.com/?lat=55.947335&lon=-3.185433&z=18.5&r=0&src=msl)
At said pub they have a cinema room - the movie will be shown for those who know not and to remind dudes who haven't seen it in a while...
At the crematorium/graveyard/field/muddy ditch or even ocean that they have designated my final resting spot (preferrably nicely roasted and ground into a coffee pot to be sprinkled later on Arthur's Seat (where I can make sure all them politiciansat the bottom of the hill are proper takin it easy)
http://www.flashearth.com/?lat=55.948988&lon=-3.171277&z=16&r=0&src=yh (http://www.flashearth.com/?lat=55.948988&lon=-3.171277&z=16&r=0&src=yh)
Dudes and dudettes get their afore mentioned glass filled with pre mixed white russian from them coffee dispensers (designated dude drivers can get frozen coffee, fuck it)
Instead of hyms and prayers and such shit this is the plan
I'll arrive in a cardboard coffin, with "This way up, dude" on one side, which will reverently be laid on a nice rug at the front
If it be in a place with rows of seats (as I imagine it will, people got to recline to relax) the back row will be asked to tap the row in front on the right shoulder. Anyone tapped on the right shoulder must tap those in front on the left. if tapped on the left tap those in front on the right and so it will continue.
Those tapped onthe right shoulder will then be asked to turn round and talk to the dude/dudette behind them - talk about how they new me, make a new contact while drinking their drinks
After I'd chargrilled or worm food people can then go bowling
Thanks fer reading
If you think this is a pile of crap then don't bother with me with flaming replies, I'll just say "fuck it"
Great idea, especially drinks and the cardboard coffin. Very, very dude. Fella Lao Tzu stated that the end of life for a caterpillar is the beginning of life for a butterfly.
So what's better than a great barbeque with friends to celebrate a new beginning?
Are you a Scot?
Quote from: greatspiritmonk on July 12, 2009, 04:35:49 AM
Great idea, especially drinks and the cardboard coffin. Very, very dude. Fella Lao Tzu stated that the end of life for a caterpillar is the beginning of life for a butterfly.
So what's better than a great barbeque with friends to celebrate a new beginning?
Are you a Scot?
Aye yer spot oan ther
Whit gave it awa? The repeatit mentions ay Embra?
Dudeism alive an well in Scotland
Need to make sure I know another dudeist priest to do my funeral, we could be funeral buddies and cover whoever snuffs it first. Efter aw, bein deid sounds awfy laid back te me ;)
Quote from: spytfyre on July 12, 2009, 07:30:35 AM
Quote from: greatspiritmonk on July 12, 2009, 04:35:49 AM
Great idea, especially drinks and the cardboard coffin. Very, very dude. Fella Lao Tzu stated that the end of life for a caterpillar is the beginning of life for a butterfly.
So what's better than a great barbeque with friends to celebrate a new beginning?
Are you a Scot?
Aye yer spot oan ther
Whit gave it awa? The repeatit mentions ay Embra?
Dudeism alive an well in Scotland
Need to make sure I know another dudeist priest to do my funeral, we could be funeral buddies and cover whoever snuffs it first. Efter aw, bein deid sounds awfy laid back te me ;)
Ops, forgive me but I have understood just the last sentence, well, almost.
I've been in Scotland once and left my heart there. 20 years ago. So don't worry, if you need I'll come for your funeral, and just for some oat sodas :)
A kilt is in my opinion, beside a bath robe, a very dude dress, fairly comfortable I would say.
What colour can be used if someone doesn't belong to a clan?
Quote from: spytfyre on July 12, 2009, 07:30:35 AM
Quote from: greatspiritmonk on July 12, 2009, 04:35:49 AM
Dudeism alive an well in Scotland
Need to make sure I know another dudeist priest to do my funeral, we could be funeral buddies and cover whoever snuffs it first. Efter aw, bein deid sounds awfy laid back te me ;)
As a dude who once met a Girl from Cardiff, I fancy myself an expert on all things Celtic. What your funeral also needs is some Creedence on the bagpipes. But if I die, who'll make the trip all the way to California?
Someone will. Dudeism is a brotherhood.
Quote from: greatspiritmonk on July 12, 2009, 12:15:14 PM
Quote from: spytfyre on July 12, 2009, 07:30:35 AM
Quote from: greatspiritmonk on July 12, 2009, 04:35:49 AM
Great idea, especially drinks and the cardboard coffin. Very, very dude. Fella Lao Tzu stated that the end of life for a caterpillar is the beginning of life for a butterfly.
So what's better than a great barbeque with friends to celebrate a new beginning?
Are you a Scot?
Aye yer spot oan ther
Whit gave it awa? The repeatit mentions ay Embra?
Dudeism alive an well in Scotland
Need to make sure I know another dudeist priest to do my funeral, we could be funeral buddies and cover whoever snuffs it first. Efter aw, bein deid sounds awfy laid back te me ;)
Ops, forgive me but I have understood just the last sentence, well, almost.
I've been in Scotland once and left my heart there. 20 years ago. So don't worry, if you need I'll come for your funeral, and just for some oat sodas :)
A kilt is in my opinion, beside a bath robe, a very dude dress, fairly comfortable I would say.
What colour can be used if someone doesn't belong to a clan?
Translation:
You are quite correct
What gave it away? The repeated Mentions of Edinburgh?
Whoever snuffs it (dies) first
No, kilts are not Scottish - they were an Irish invention man
The Plaid as seen in the movie Rob Roy and Braveheart(pile of bollocks, Wallace would've had trousers, the plaid came 300 years later) is what would have been worn before the English banned it
The English then decided it would be nice to get the Scots army regiments to wear the Irish kilt to scare the indiginous polulation of countries they wanted to colonise
The bagpipes are also false, too noisy and skreetchy, (again for the army, loud and scary for the natives) again the Irish or Northumbrian pipes are more like what would have been the traditional Scots pipes, the only differences are they're smaller and sound softer and more pleasing
As to colour of kilts - clans didn't have tartans, the plaid would have been any colour you liked, what was available (and cheap, we are Scots remember) and dyes were different at different times of the year anyway due to the plants in season, some would make their plaid out of several patches of cloth (cheap, again see? Did you know: Copper wire was invented by two Scots fighting over a penny...)
If you want to wear a kilt I think all black ones are pretty cool
(oh and the sporran is a lie too)
History, un-duded by the un-dudely (written by the winners)
Another fun fact - the jacobite rebellion wasn't Scots v English, it was two religions competing for the crown
Quote from: greatspiritmonk on July 13, 2009, 01:34:34 AM
Someone will. Dudeism is a brotherhood.
I reckon it's a good idea to buddy up with a couple of other priests in your area, I can think of a likely candidate who I have pointed at dudeism.com and the ordination process, putting it in a will also helps to ensure it gets carried out in the proper dudely fashion
spytfyre
thanks for the insights. Yeah the mention of Edinburgh is the hint :)
History is always different when heard from someone who live in a place. Would you like to know something about Italy?
Thanks for the translation, but you destroyed my idea of Scotland :)
The story about the copper wire is great, just like a Scot I've heard who said that under the kilt there is the future of Scotland. Well he also said that England is the south of Scotland :D
Since I like Ireland too, even if I've never been there, I guess I'll keep the kilt together with bath robe, plaid and yukata, as very dudeish dresses. But instead of black I think green it's better, more relaxing you know.
I'm thinking about organizing a Dudeist Fest next summer in Italy. But for now it's just a dream. What do you think?
God bless Alba 8)
Italy would be good, not so far to fly, I have an Italian friend who has just moved to Edinburgh so that could work out well
Lucky him man, lucky him. I'll keep you informed or even open a new thread.
Quote from: spytfyre on July 13, 2009, 12:56:53 PM
Italy would be good, not so far to fly, I have an Italian friend who has just moved to Edinburgh so that could work out well
Perfect...maybe you can explain to us the recent Scotland-Italy axis. I mean, Paolo Nutini and Dario Franchetti are both Scots. WTF!??!
erm
nope
sorry
who're they?
Dario Franchitti, Scottish open wheel racing driver, married to Ashley Judd.
The Italians landed in Scotland as tradesmen, imported to fancy up the place. The randy buggers shagged a lot of lusty scots lasses, and were too tired to make the trip home.
And lets not forget Primal Scream, the greatest Scottish band of all time. Kinda like the Rolling Stones' version of Oasis, only they admitted their influences and weren't defensive little buggers about it all.
Quote from: Elbowski on July 14, 2009, 12:56:33 AM
Dario Franchitti, Scottish open wheel racing driver, married to Ashley Judd.
The Italians landed in Scotland as tradesmen, imported to fancy up the place. The randy buggers shagged a lot of lusty scots lasses, and were too tired to make the trip home.
Envious? I guess you are nor Italian neither Scot 8)
You know, Italians do it better :) :) :)
Maybe it is just that Italy (especially in the North) and Scotland share common traits, or simply they match well together. Btw if you go to Scotland you'll understand why it's so difficult to leave once there.
the scots were out in force at last weekend's lebowskifest:
http://louisville.metromix.com/events/photo/saturday-at-lebowski-fest/1317396/content
i'd love to see The Big Lebowski translated into Glaswegian English.
"Donny, you're like a Fanny Bawz who donners into the middle of a movie. Couldnay you shut the fack up ya eedjit?"
Quote from: forumdude on July 14, 2009, 11:52:52 AM
the scots were out in force at last weekend's lebowskifest:
http://louisville.metromix.com/events/photo/saturday-at-lebowski-fest/1317396/content
i'd love to see The Big Lebowski translated into Glaswegian English.
"Donny, you're like a Fanny Bawz who donners into the middle of a movie. Couldnay you shut the fack up ya eedjit?"
I think if that was tried, it would end up looking too much like Trainspotting. But that's just, like, my opinion, man.
Quote from: greatspiritmonk on July 14, 2009, 01:49:35 AM
Quote from: Elbowski on July 14, 2009, 12:56:33 AM
Dario Franchitti, Scottish open wheel racing driver, married to Ashley Judd.
The Italians landed in Scotland as tradesmen, imported to fancy up the place. The randy buggers shagged a lot of lusty scots lasses, and were too tired to make the trip home.
Envious? I guess you are nor Italian neither Scot 8)
You know, Italians do it better :) :) :)
Maybe it is just that Italy (especially in the North) and Scotland share common traits, or simply they match well together. Btw if you go to Scotland you'll understand why it's so difficult to leave once there.
Just a little historical humour. Any "envy" is coming from you, GSM. Don't assume that you know anything about my heritage either. If I'm lucky enough, I will visit Scotland someday. Italy too.
Quote from: sufidude on July 14, 2009, 01:14:04 AM
And lets not forget Primal Scream, the greatest Scottish band of all time. Kinda like the Rolling Stones' version of Oasis, only they admitted their influences and weren't defensive little buggers about it all.
Oh yes Primal Scream are awesome!
http://listen.grooveshark.com/#/song/Country_Girl/174031
Quote from: forumdude on July 14, 2009, 11:52:52 AM
the scots were out in force at last weekend's lebowskifest:
http://louisville.metromix.com/events/photo/saturday-at-lebowski-fest/1317396/content
i'd love to see The Big Lebowski translated into Glaswegian English.
"Donny, you're like a Fanny Bawz who donners into the middle of a movie. Couldnay you shut the fack up ya eedjit?"
Challenge accepted, give me the script
Quote from: digbys kid on July 14, 2009, 12:00:52 PM
Quote from: forumdude on July 14, 2009, 11:52:52 AM
the scots were out in force at last weekend's lebowskifest:
http://louisville.metromix.com/events/photo/saturday-at-lebowski-fest/1317396/content
i'd love to see The Big Lebowski translated into Glaswegian English.
"Donny, you're like a Fanny Bawz who donners into the middle of a movie. Couldnay you shut the fack up ya eedjit?"
I think if that was tried, it would end up looking too much like Trainspotting. But that's just, like, my opinion, man.
So, is Trainspotting the only Scottish movie then?
Quote from: spytfyre on July 14, 2009, 03:45:11 PM
Quote from: digbys kid on July 14, 2009, 12:00:52 PM
Quote from: forumdude on July 14, 2009, 11:52:52 AM
the scots were out in force at last weekend's lebowskifest:
http://louisville.metromix.com/events/photo/saturday-at-lebowski-fest/1317396/content
i'd love to see The Big Lebowski translated into Glaswegian English.
"Donny, you're like a Fanny Bawz who donners into the middle of a movie. Couldnay you shut the fack up ya eedjit?"
I think if that was tried, it would end up looking too much like Trainspotting. But that's just, like, my opinion, man.
So, is Trainspotting the only Scottish movie then?
The only Scottish movie that easily serves as a Lebowski analogue, unless you would be so kind as to enlighten us bluddy yanks about Scots cinema...
I mean, what other options are there..."Local Hero"? "Breaking The Waves"? "Brigadoon"?
Could be done in the style of Highlander - There can be only one, dude...
Local Hero, one of my all time faves.
Quote from: spytfyre on July 14, 2009, 04:35:31 PM
Could be done in the style of Highlander - There can be only one, dude...
Only the first Highlander, please!
Quote from: Elbowski on July 14, 2009, 02:04:55 PM
Quote from: greatspiritmonk on July 14, 2009, 01:49:35 AM
Quote from: Elbowski on July 14, 2009, 12:56:33 AM
Dario Franchitti, Scottish open wheel racing driver, married to Ashley Judd.
The Italians landed in Scotland as tradesmen, imported to fancy up the place. The randy buggers shagged a lot of lusty scots lasses, and were too tired to make the trip home.
Envious? I guess you are nor Italian neither Scot 8)
You know, Italians do it better :) :) :)
Maybe it is just that Italy (especially in the North) and Scotland share common traits, or simply they match well together. Btw if you go to Scotland you'll understand why it's so difficult to leave once there.
Just a little historical humour. Any "envy" is coming from you, GSM. Don't assume that you know anything about my heritage either. If I'm lucky enough, I will visit Scotland someday. Italy too.
Envy? Of what?
Just that "randy buggers" isn't really a compliment, right? And of course I know nothing about heritage either, just a deduction. You know I wouldn't call myself randy bugger, nor lusty scots lasses. But, you know, that's just my opinion. Sherlock Dude 8)
If you come to Italy you should go to Friuli and Veneto, we are not very good at oat sodas, but no one can beat us with squeezed grapes :) And those are the best places in Italy for that, Prosecco, Cabernet, Merlot and so on.
Quote from: greatspiritmonk on July 15, 2009, 02:04:55 AM
Quote from: Elbowski on July 14, 2009, 02:04:55 PM
Quote from: greatspiritmonk on July 14, 2009, 01:49:35 AM
Quote from: Elbowski on July 14, 2009, 12:56:33 AM
Dario Franchitti, Scottish open wheel racing driver, married to Ashley Judd.
The Italians landed in Scotland as tradesmen, imported to fancy up the place. The randy buggers shagged a lot of lusty scots lasses, and were too tired to make the trip home.
Envious? I guess you are nor Italian neither Scot 8)
You know, Italians do it better :) :) :)
Maybe it is just that Italy (especially in the North) and Scotland share common traits, or simply they match well together. Btw if you go to Scotland you'll understand why it's so difficult to leave once there.
Just a little historical humour. Any "envy" is coming from you, GSM. Don't assume that you know anything about my heritage either. If I'm lucky enough, I will visit Scotland someday. Italy too.
Envy? Of what?
Just that "randy buggers" isn't really a compliment, right? And of course I know nothing about heritage either, just a deduction. You know I wouldn't call myself randy bugger, nor lusty scots lasses. But, you know, that's just my opinion. Sherlock Dude 8)
Obviously, you're not a golfer. So don't call yourself randy bugger (I didn't know your name was randy, man) or anything else. You could be a castrati for all I know. You can even call yourself the Dude if you want. So just take it easy man.
"Obviously, you're not a golfer. So don't call yourself randy bugger (I didn't know your name was randy, man) or anything else. You could be a castrati for all I know. You can even call yourself the Dude if you want. So just take it easy man."
Nope, never had the money to play golf. I just looked on the dictionary and found that the meaning is:
randy = aroused
bugger = bastard
randy bugger = aroused bastard
But if you know of other meanings, that's fine. As I always say English is not my mother tongue so sometimes I understand wrongly. :(
Fortunately I still have my pair of testicles, and, I, I take it easy.
Or better, I'm learning to. 8)
Let's all just take it easy, fellers. Racially I think we're all pretty cool here.
But I thought it was the Spanish armadas who were responsible for the darker among the celts. Like Catherine Zeta Jones and Tom Jones. Are all the darker ones named Jones? Course, they're Welsh. I couldnay think of any Scottish examples.
there's also this:
http://killarney-ireland.info/genealogy/dark-irish-celt-genealogy.html
Quote from: forumdude on July 15, 2009, 09:04:46 AM
Let's all just take it easy, fellers. Racially I think we're all pretty cool here.
But I thought it was the Spanish armadas who were responsible for the darker among the celts. Like Catherine Zeta Jones and Tom Jones. Are all the darker ones named Jones? Course, they're Welsh. I couldnay think of any Scottish examples.
there's also this:
http://killarney-ireland.info/genealogy/dark-irish-celt-genealogy.html
Dude, the Hispanic Celts and Black Irish are easily the hottest women on earth!
Just don't tell my lady friend I said that...
Bugger=bastard? I did not know that. In my mind it was just a good natured compliment, but if you're looking for it, one can find an insult in anything. I believe the question was about the Italian/Scots connection, and I addressed that. It's cool with me, I'm all for people getting down, sometimes I even like to watch. (while I'm fixing the cable)
Dudes, in the name of the Dude, lets all do a J. Cheers, Greatspiritmonk, I salute the dude in you. Namaste, in the parlance of our times.
I'll start by passing the dutchie pan the left hand side:
(http://www.mytinyphone.com/uploads/users/cacique/91006.gif)
Thankee.
I abide 8)
Maybe I have to change my online translator from wordreference to something else.
Sufidude, sorry but I must correct you a bit, I agree with you but probably the hottest women are the ones from Sicily with eyes and hair darker than crow's pens (?) They squeeze you like a lemon :)
But funny there are some people in Sicily over 175 cm with light hair or eyes, probably of Norman heritage, there they've had a lot of people coming, Greeks, Turks, Spanish....
Btw Celts where both in Northern Italy and in Scotland, so it can be we are a kind of far away cousins, or maybe we have a similar way of being, or , if the term is right, we have a similar temper. Well, we are also very similar to Spanish too. Probably because since the Roman Empire we went to a lot of places.
Sometimes we must debate a little to check how good we are at abiding 8)
But Elbowsky now I'm curious about your heritage.
Namaste: is it a kind of an eastern thing? Just joking, I know its meaning.
And now barman, oat sodas for all. (The Italian way to pacify)
My heritage? White Russian!
Quote from: greatspiritmonk on July 16, 2009, 02:06:30 AM
Sufidude, sorry but I must correct you a bit,
Try if you must but nothing will ever be hotter than Jennifer Connelly having her way with Catherine Zeta Jones.
8)
Here's some black Irish that gets my White Russian:
http://www.thecorrswebsite.com/index2.htm
Quote from: Elbowski on July 16, 2009, 01:37:34 PM
My heritage? White Russian!
Great heritage. And I agree with you, the Corrs are wonderful. And they make some good music too. I think I should go to check how Ireland is, but I've always known that if I go there I'll never come back to Italy. Apart from women they have the best (but this is only my opinion dudes) oat soda in the world. Not even thinking about their landscapes.
Guinness forever! 8)
Quote from: sufidude on July 16, 2009, 01:41:48 PM
Quote from: greatspiritmonk on July 16, 2009, 02:06:30 AM
Sufidude, sorry but I must correct you a bit,
Try if you must but nothing will ever be hotter than Jennifer Connelly having her way with Catherine Zeta Jones.
8)
100% agree, Jennifer Connelly is simply wonderful (since Phenomena she's always gone better), and Zeta Jones too. But there is something hotter in my simple opinion.
That is if they call me to join ;D ;D ;D
I got my patches (dudefish and ordained dudeist priest) yesterday. I immediately dung out an old black jacket and stuck 'em on. The dudefish on the right pec, the priest patch on the right shoulder. I then went about my day, walking around the neighborhood, coffee in hand, getting ready for a trip to Paris with my wife next week.
I got asked three times, twice by total strangers what dudeism is. I told them, and told them to check out the website. I kept it light, but sincere, man. Abide, and what not.
Open declaration and righteous calm indifferent abiding does the trick for spreading the word.
As for performing actual priestly duties, well one of the folks asked me if I could marry people. I said, "Yep. Legally ordained by a legally recognized church." The fella asked if I had done any wedding yet. I said, "Nope. Who ya got in mind?" Got a good guffaw out of that. 8)
Way to go Travis! Helping spread the Dude word. Shoosh. Digging your style.
Very good advice dude. I'll get some more patches and do the same. Let's go rolling the ball.
Quote from: TravisE on July 23, 2009, 11:01:13 PM
I got my patches (dudefish and ordained dudeist priest) yesterday. I immediately dung out an old black jacket and stuck 'em on. The dudefish on the right pec, the priest patch on the right shoulder. I then went about my day, walking around the neighborhood, coffee in hand, getting ready for a trip to Paris with my wife next week.
I got asked three times, twice by total strangers what dudeism is. I told them, and told them to check out the website. I kept it light, but sincere, man. Abide, and what not.
Open declaration and righteous calm indifferent abiding does the trick for spreading the word.
As for performing actual priestly duties, well one of the folks asked me if I could marry people. I said, "Yep. Legally ordained by a legally recognized church." The fella asked if I had done any wedding yet. I said, "Nope. Who ya got in mind?" Got a good guffaw out of that. 8)
I get pretty much the same reaction when I go out wearing my dudefish t-shirt.
Does anyone know which states require the letter of good standing?
Still trucking around with the patches. Got my ULC minister patch on the arm opposite the Dudeist Priest one. Also sporting my "Bob" button. Getting some good conversations started. One old dude in my coffee shop smiled as he overheard my explaining the dude-fish to someone else. He then turned to yet another dude in the shop and said, "I'm looking for a cult leader. Know where I can find any?"
The recipient of the question rolled with it, pointed at me and said, "That guy way qualifies."
I shrugged and said, "Too much work."
Hi i dont know if this is the right place to ask this but it is on the subject, are there bishops in dudeism? actually are there any? other ranks other then the priest?
at the moment we have two dudeships - dwayne eutsey (the arch dudeship) and andrea favro (the dudeship of italy). some day there will be more hopefully! and once we get the ecclesiastical structure set up via a system of dudenominations, there will probably be other ranks as well.
I had and idea id like to share, what if we set up a high priest, a dude which administrates the other dude, so maybe we can actually have functioning system of what the dudes around the world are doing, and the high dude should be placed over an are (city or set of cities etc'), just some idea that came to mind the other day, its just like, my opinion man :)
Who's in charge of scheduling?
the head of the church of the latter-day dude?
OK, for a minute there I thought it might be the fucks at the league office, or worse yet, the fucks at the Italian league office. Apparently they are corrupt. And we have filed a formal complaint.
parla usted ingles?
Do you speak English sir? I told those fucks at the league office that I don't help develop church hierarchy on shabbos.
Quote from: not_exactly_a_lightweight on December 26, 2009, 07:15:38 PM
OK, for a minute there I thought it might be the fucks at the league office, or worse yet, the fucks at the Italian league office. Apparently they are corrupt. And we have filed a formal complaint.
Thanks for the apparently, dude. ;D
They got three detectives working on it.
Quote from: greatspiritmonk on June 25, 2009, 10:04:40 AM
Hi, I don't know if anyone is with me, but I thought it could be interesting to talk about being a Priest: how we work as Priests, how we talk to others, what we give to our friends as Priests, cerimonies or services....
As an example my focus on being a priest is on healing prayers and spiritual consulting: any idea?
Here are some: as a priest you can only part knowledge with others, but what they choose to do with it is their choice. If you can persuade them of the value of your words, they are well spoken. We may give others answers, but what they choose to do, in the face of those answers, is really what counts. A priests' advice is only as good as those who will act upon it. If another cannot or will not follow his words, then they were unfit to hear them in the first place.
Quote from: Antagonism on December 31, 2009, 03:47:41 PM
Quote from: greatspiritmonk on June 25, 2009, 10:04:40 AM
Hi, I don't know if anyone is with me, but I thought it could be interesting to talk about being a Priest: how we work as Priests, how we talk to others, what we give to our friends as Priests, cerimonies or services....
As an example my focus on being a priest is on healing prayers and spiritual consulting: any idea?
Here are some: as a priest you can only part knowledge with others, but what they choose to do with it is their choice. If you can persuade them of the value of your words, they are well spoken. We may give others answers, but what they choose to do, in the face of those answers, is really what counts. A priests' advice is only a as good as those who will act upon it. If another cannot or will not follow his words, then they were unfit to here them in the first place.
Was with ya up to the "unfit" part. 8)
Quote from: Antagonism on December 31, 2009, 03:47:41 PM
Here are some: as a priest you can only part knowledge with others, but what they choose to do with it is their choice. If you can persuade them of the value of your words, they are well spoken. We may give others answers, but what they choose to do, in the face of those answers, is really what counts. A priests' advice is only a as good as those who will act upon it. If another cannot or will not follow his words, then they were unfit to here them in the first place.
Ant, you lost me at "only part knowledge" only give part?, only impart? only part out knowledge? or did you mean to type parrot?
I remain ignorant, like a child who walks into the middle of a priest talking ..
To answer both of your questions:
1) Unfit: as in unwilling to listen.
2) Parting knowledge with: telling others what we think, but then leaving it to them to decide if they want to use that knowledge or not.
Well that explanation ties it all together. Woo, do your thing
Quote from: Antagonism on January 01, 2010, 12:21:20 PM
To answer both of your questions:
1) Unfit: as in unwilling to listen.
I didn't have a question. 8)
Quote from: TravisE on December 31, 2009, 07:35:47 PM
Quote from: Antagonism on December 31, 2009, 03:47:41 PM
Quote from: greatspiritmonk on June 25, 2009, 10:04:40 AM
Hi, I don't know if anyone is with me, but I thought it could be interesting to talk about being a Priest: how we work as Priests, how we talk to others, what we give to our friends as Priests, cerimonies or services....
As an example my focus on being a priest is on healing prayers and spiritual consulting: any idea?
Here are some: as a priest you can only part knowledge with others, but what they choose to do with it is their choice. If you can persuade them of the value of your words, they are well spoken. We may give others answers, but what they choose to do, in the face of those answers, is really what counts. A priests' advice is only a as good as those who will act upon it. If another cannot or will not follow his words, then they were unfit to here them in the first place.
Was with ya up to the "unfit" part. 8)
Ah, forgetful are you? Or did you post drunk? Maybe forget to wear your contact lenses or glasses?
You've got a lot of questions there
What's your point?
Quote from: Antagonism on January 02, 2010, 05:00:35 PM
Quote from: TravisE on December 31, 2009, 07:35:47 PMWas with ya up to the "unfit" part. 8)
Ah, forgetful are you? Or did you post drunk? Maybe forget to wear your contact lenses or glasses?
Do you see a question mark, in my post? Are you currently drunk? 8)
Do you have a question?
Yeah, I suppose I do have a question: why did you write a phoenetic version of "what's with you up to the unfit part?" you don't always need to put a question mark, especially if you're on something at the time of posting.
Quote from: Antagonism on January 03, 2010, 03:24:35 PM
Yeah, I suppose I do have a question: why did you write a phoenetic version of "what's with you up to the unfit part?" you don't always need to put a question mark, especially if you're on something at the time of posting.
That wasn't what I posted. What I said was (in extended version), "I was in agreement with you up until the point where you said that people who did not listen were unfit. At that point I depart from agreeing with you." There is no question there. Why are you trying to fit one in?
I think perhaps you need to abide a tad bit more. ;)
Thank you, your point is well taken. Even I can antagonize in the wrong place and this was one of them. I can't put a question mark anywhere, because it doesn't belong.
Why then, do you not agree with me? If people cannot listen, then they shouldn't hear advice they're not going to follow.
Quote from: Antagonism on January 04, 2010, 05:24:03 PM
Thank you, your point is well taken. Even I can antagonize in the wrong place and this was one of them. I can't put a question mark anywhere, because it doesn't belong.
Why then, do you not agree with me? If people cannot listen, then they shouldn't hear advice they're not going to follow.
How would they know they weren't going to follow it until they hear it?
"Unfit" just doesn't fit for me. Who are you to judge that? Abiding is for everyone. If they choose not too, fuck it. That's their choice, made in an informed manner. They are not unfit, even if they are being very un-Dude.