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Title: Wow!
Post by: BikerDude on October 03, 2014, 08:46:01 AM
Latest from Paul Thomas Anderson. Great director.
Bears a very very strong resemblance the the Big L.
Everyday guy gets caught up in a kidnap scheme and ends up playing a Brother Shamus.
Looks super great.
Inherent Vice
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wZfs22E7JmI (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wZfs22E7JmI)

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Thomas Pynchon's 2009 novel "Inherent Vice" is one of his most accessible. The story of a stoner private eye in Southern California at the end of the 1960s is part Jim Rockford, part Raymond Chandler and part Cheech & Chong. It's noir on the beach with hippie styling and doesn't take itself seriously.

Paul Thomas Anderson has adapted it for the screen -- it's the first of Pynchon's novels to be made into a film (he's only been writing for 50 years).

The film stars Joaquin Phoenix as private investigator Larry "Doc" Sportello, Josh Brolin as cop Bigfoot Bjornsen, Eric Roberts as real estate mogul Mickey Wolfmann, Maya Rudolph as Doc's assistant Petunia Leeway, Owen Wilson as saxophone player Coy Harlingen, Reese Witherspoon as sometime girlfriend Penny Kimball, and Benicio Del Toro as attorney Sauncho Smilax.

"Inherent Vice" is debuting at the New York Film Festival this weekend. It's coming to theaters Dec. 12.
Title: Re: Wow!
Post by: milnie on October 03, 2014, 02:52:24 PM
That sounds like a strong cast
Title: Re: Wow!
Post by: Judd Dude on October 04, 2014, 10:35:10 AM
Holy shit man this looks like a great film! Thanks for posting I'll be watching this for sure!
Title: Re: Wow!
Post by: BikerDude on October 09, 2014, 10:33:21 AM
This article is tantalizing. It just gets more and more Lebowski like.
http://www.theverge.com/2014/10/8/6939377/inherent-vice-review-criticism-conversation (http://www.theverge.com/2014/10/8/6939377/inherent-vice-review-criticism-conversation)

QuoteIt's funny that you mention "the dude vs. The Man," because I'm thinking maybe Inherent Vice wanted it to be "The Dude vs. The Man."

You describe Inherent Vice as a screwball comedy, and a lot has already been made about Anderson citing Top Secret! and Airplane! as inspirations for the film. And at the end of your letter, you nod at The Big Lebowski, too. I don't know how much Inherent Vice really owes any of these films, though. Sure, the lead character is a stoner drifting through a film noir. And yeah, a number of scenes have slappy physical gags that would make the Zucker brothers proud. But Anderson has such a strong voice, that the film felt unique.

So what is this movie? As far as I can tell it wants to be a comedy on top of a noir, using a noir?s senselessness to let it bounce around from strange and cool moment to strange and funny moment to whatever it thinks up next. Mash up The Big Sleep and stoner comedy and you get The Big Lebowski, right?
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Title: Re: Wow!
Post by: Rev Doctor Abidingly on October 13, 2014, 04:26:30 AM
Quote from: BikerDude on October 03, 2014, 08:46:01 AM
Latest from Paul Thomas Anderson. Great director.
Bears a very very strong resemblance the the Big L.
Everyday guy gets caught up in a kidnap scheme and ends up playing a Brother Shamus.
Looks super great.
Inherent Vice
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wZfs22E7JmI (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wZfs22E7JmI)

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Thomas Pynchon's 2009 novel "Inherent Vice" is one of his most accessible. The story of a stoner private eye in Southern California at the end of the 1960s is part Jim Rockford, part Raymond Chandler and part Cheech & Chong. It's noir on the beach with hippie styling and doesn't take itself seriously.

Paul Thomas Anderson has adapted it for the screen -- it's the first of Pynchon's novels to be made into a film (he's only been writing for 50 years).

The film stars Joaquin Phoenix as private investigator Larry "Doc" Sportello, Josh Brolin as cop Bigfoot Bjornsen, Eric Roberts as real estate mogul Mickey Wolfmann, Maya Rudolph as Doc's assistant Petunia Leeway, Owen Wilson as saxophone player Coy Harlingen, Reese Witherspoon as sometime girlfriend Penny Kimball, and Benicio Del Toro as attorney Sauncho Smilax.

"Inherent Vice" is debuting at the New York Film Festival this weekend. It's coming to theaters Dec. 12.

Sounds Dudely indeed.   Anyone here read the book?  I may have to check out the book while waiting for the movie...
Title: Re: Wow!
Post by: PriorRestraint on October 14, 2014, 02:19:14 PM
Quote from: Patrico on October 13, 2014, 04:26:30 AM
Quote from: BikerDude on October 03, 2014, 08:46:01 AM
Latest from Paul Thomas Anderson. Great director.
Bears a very very strong resemblance the the Big L.
Everyday guy gets caught up in a kidnap scheme and ends up playing a Brother Shamus.
Looks super great.
Inherent Vice
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wZfs22E7JmI (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wZfs22E7JmI)

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Thomas Pynchon's 2009 novel "Inherent Vice" is one of his most accessible. The story of a stoner private eye in Southern California at the end of the 1960s is part Jim Rockford, part Raymond Chandler and part Cheech & Chong. It's noir on the beach with hippie styling and doesn't take itself seriously.

Paul Thomas Anderson has adapted it for the screen -- it's the first of Pynchon's novels to be made into a film (he's only been writing for 50 years).

The film stars Joaquin Phoenix as private investigator Larry "Doc" Sportello, Josh Brolin as cop Bigfoot Bjornsen, Eric Roberts as real estate mogul Mickey Wolfmann, Maya Rudolph as Doc's assistant Petunia Leeway, Owen Wilson as saxophone player Coy Harlingen, Reese Witherspoon as sometime girlfriend Penny Kimball, and Benicio Del Toro as attorney Sauncho Smilax.

"Inherent Vice" is debuting at the New York Film Festival this weekend. It's coming to theaters Dec. 12.

Sounds Dudely indeed.   Anyone here read the book?  I may have to check out the book while waiting for the movie...

Fun book. Not one of his best, but like Vineland, it's in his pothead caper genre. Definitely think the folks around here would enjoy it
Title: Re: Wow!
Post by: BikerDude on October 14, 2014, 04:21:15 PM
Quote from: PriorRestraint on October 14, 2014, 02:19:14 PM
Quote from: Patrico on October 13, 2014, 04:26:30 AM
Quote from: BikerDude on October 03, 2014, 08:46:01 AM
Latest from Paul Thomas Anderson. Great director.
Bears a very very strong resemblance the the Big L.
Everyday guy gets caught up in a kidnap scheme and ends up playing a Brother Shamus.
Looks super great.
Inherent Vice
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wZfs22E7JmI (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wZfs22E7JmI)

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Thomas Pynchon's 2009 novel "Inherent Vice" is one of his most accessible. The story of a stoner private eye in Southern California at the end of the 1960s is part Jim Rockford, part Raymond Chandler and part Cheech & Chong. It's noir on the beach with hippie styling and doesn't take itself seriously.

Paul Thomas Anderson has adapted it for the screen -- it's the first of Pynchon's novels to be made into a film (he's only been writing for 50 years).

The film stars Joaquin Phoenix as private investigator Larry "Doc" Sportello, Josh Brolin as cop Bigfoot Bjornsen, Eric Roberts as real estate mogul Mickey Wolfmann, Maya Rudolph as Doc's assistant Petunia Leeway, Owen Wilson as saxophone player Coy Harlingen, Reese Witherspoon as sometime girlfriend Penny Kimball, and Benicio Del Toro as attorney Sauncho Smilax.

"Inherent Vice" is debuting at the New York Film Festival this weekend. It's coming to theaters Dec. 12.

Sounds Dudely indeed.   Anyone here read the book?  I may have to check out the book while waiting for the movie...

Fun book. Not one of his best, but like Vineland, it's in his pothead caper genre. Definitely think the folks around here would enjoy it

I started reading Vineland this past weekend.
So far it's a bit odd but entertaining none the less.
Title: Re: Wow!
Post by: BikerDude on December 15, 2014, 07:16:30 AM
First reviews are in...

http://www.npr.org/2014/12/12/370349507/depicting-an-unstable-era-inherent-vice-never-jells-but-its-addictive (http://www.npr.org/2014/12/12/370349507/depicting-an-unstable-era-inherent-vice-never-jells-but-its-addictive)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q1d0QpmE5QA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q1d0QpmE5QA)

http://www.usatoday.com/story/life/movies/2014/12/11/inherent-vice-review/19156811/ (http://www.usatoday.com/story/life/movies/2014/12/11/inherent-vice-review/19156811/)
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Well-acted, intermittently compelling, often incoherent but always offbeat, Inherent Vice is a twisting story about twisted California stoners.

Think of it as a film that's meant to be experienced, more than fully understood.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eH1xhcJhxnk (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eH1xhcJhxnk)
Title: Re: Wow!
Post by: meekon5 on December 15, 2014, 11:26:05 AM
That looks particularly interesting thanks BikerDude.

Definitely one to look out for.
Title: Re: Wow!
Post by: DigitalBuddha on December 15, 2014, 08:37:43 PM
Looks great! Looking forward to watching it!

LMAO!!!

"He's technically Jewish but wants to be a nazi."

Awesome line!!  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wow!
Post by: Reverend Al on January 10, 2015, 01:41:25 AM
Just a friendly heads-up here, Dudes.  A good friend of mine whose opinions I trust saw Inherent Vice recently and said the trailers are very misleading, specifically with regards to making the movie look like a comedy; it isn't.  He also said the plot (such as it is) is difficult to follow ("even worse than The Big Sleep" in his words) and that he really didn't care for it.  He did say, however, that he'd like to see it again now that he knows it's not a comedy (i.e., without that preconceived notion) in order to judge it based on it's own merits.  So...properly warned ye be, sez I.
Title: Re: Wow!
Post by: Hominid on January 10, 2015, 04:46:27 AM
Interesting take - then the trailer then must indeed be misleading.  I'm actually looking forward to seeing the movie.
Title: Re: Wow!
Post by: DigitalBuddha on January 10, 2015, 11:25:51 AM
So I checked out this flick last night. One thought I had was that the main character had some personality attributes and traits similar to the dude.

That's just like my opinion, man.
Title: Re: Wow!
Post by: BikerDude on January 13, 2015, 04:19:34 PM
Quote from: DigitalBuddha on January 10, 2015, 11:25:51 AM
So I checked out this flick last night. One thought I had was that the main character had some personality attributes and traits similar to the dude.

That's just like my opinion, man.

Haven't seen it yet myself. Reviews have been generally positive.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cvL2NqdQYys (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cvL2NqdQYys)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QS3oV3tsVbk (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QS3oV3tsVbk)

I still plan to check it out.
I'll wait till it makes it to one of the "Dinner and a Movie" places around here.
Typically they go there between wide release and Streaming.
So probably next month or so.
Title: Re: Wow!
Post by: jgiffin on January 13, 2015, 07:20:24 PM
Quote from: Reverend Al on January 10, 2015, 01:41:25 AM
Just a friendly heads-up here, Dudes.  A good friend of mine whose opinions I trust saw Inherent Vice recently and said the trailers are very misleading, specifically with regards to making the movie look like a comedy; it isn't.  He also said the plot (such as it is) is difficult to follow ("even worse than The Big Sleep" in his words) and that he really didn't care for it.  He did say, however, that he'd like to see it again now that he knows it's not a comedy (i.e., without that preconceived notion) in order to judge it based on it's own merits.  So...properly warned ye be, sez I.

Dammit, Al. I was going to mention how promising all the promos looked. Fucking Hollywood, man, always pulling the bait-and-switch on us.
Title: Re: Wow!
Post by: Reverend Al on January 13, 2015, 08:11:55 PM
Quote from: jgiffin on January 13, 2015, 07:20:24 PM
Quote from: Reverend Al on January 10, 2015, 01:41:25 AM
Just a friendly heads-up here, Dudes.  A good friend of mine whose opinions I trust saw Inherent Vice recently and said the trailers are very misleading, specifically with regards to making the movie look like a comedy; it isn't.  He also said the plot (such as it is) is difficult to follow ("even worse than The Big Sleep" in his words) and that he really didn't care for it.  He did say, however, that he'd like to see it again now that he knows it's not a comedy (i.e., without that preconceived notion) in order to judge it based on it's own merits.  So...properly warned ye be, sez I.

Dammit, Al. I was going to mention how promising all the promos looked. Fucking Hollywood, man, always pulling the bait-and-switch on us.

I'm not sure how much of that is intentional.  The real problem is that the studios sub-contract movie trailers to other production companies (with rare exceptions).  As far as I know, they're given a synopsis of the movie and some footage, and are instructed to create a trailer.  As such, there must be times when those companies think they understand what the movie's about but really don't, and the end result is a misleading trailer.  That said, I'm sure there are times when the studio doesn't have much faith in a finished movie, so the boys from marketing instruct the company that's producing the trailer to edit it a certain (and somewhat misleading) way just to get better box office dollars on the opening weekend.  That's en-ter-tain-ment!!!  ;D

Anyway, even though my friend said he didn't care for it, he didn't say it was a bad movie.  Check it out, and decide for yourself.  That's what I'm gonna do...when it comes to cable/satellite TV, that is.  I'm not sure why, but I just don't dig Joaquin Phoenix.  Something about him just rubs me the wrong way, so I'm in no hurry to run out and spend money to see a movie he's in.
Title: Re: Wow!
Post by: Hominid on January 14, 2015, 09:20:30 PM
Getting through the first hour was absolute torture.  I turned it off...
Title: Re: Wow!
Post by: Reverend Al on January 15, 2015, 01:11:50 AM
Quote from: Hominid on January 14, 2015, 09:20:30 PMGetting through the first hour was absolute torture.  I turned it off...

Don't hold back, man, tell us how you really feel.  ;D
Title: Re: Wow!
Post by: jgiffin on January 15, 2015, 08:47:40 PM
I'll hit it up on a torrent in, oh, about...now.
Title: Re: Wow!
Post by: BikerDude on March 19, 2015, 09:36:35 AM
Finally watched this. It's out for rental on Amazon.
I did like it but I'd say that it runs out of steam.
I did find it to be a comedy for sure. But it's far from slapstick.
It's comedy in a similar way that Kurt Vonnegut is comedy.

Once the real cleverness of the very odd ball characters and plot begins to run out it just doesn't go very much farther. Of course I've heard the same criticism of the Big Lebowski. Lack of payoff.

I have to admit that I found the reviews a bit puzzling when they stated how hard it is to comprehend the plot. I didn't really find it difficult although there are a ton of twists and turns and a near endless array of oddball characters.

I'm a huge fan of Paul Thomas Anderson and that seems to be an acquired taste.
I for instance thought that "There Will be Blood" was brilliant. I'm alone in that view in my world.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s_hFTR6qyEo (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s_hFTR6qyEo)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UdddIJd3bLc (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UdddIJd3bLc)


I will be watching Inherent Vice again. I sort of lost my train of thought at the end the first go round and it will require at least a second view.
All in all I'd recommend it.
At the very least it's a trip.
And I found it funny.

For those who haven't watched the absolutely brillian "There Will Be Blood".
Full movie.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ibx1Dg1SM7Q (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ibx1Dg1SM7Q)
Or Netflix.
Title: Re: Wow!
Post by: Hominid on March 19, 2015, 09:46:22 AM
I thought "There Will Be Blood" was brilliant film making. Told a story...
Title: Re: Wow!
Post by: BikerDude on March 19, 2015, 10:27:50 AM
Quote from: Hominid on March 19, 2015, 09:46:22 AM
I thought "There Will Be Blood" was brilliant film making. Told a story...
And uniquely atmospheric.
In the context of TWBB the "lack of closure" sort of is the point.
You just go along with Daniel Plainview on this slow degeneration.
It penetrates you like cold and rain.
It's very John Paul Sartre or Albert Camus.
A palpable lack of milestones. What happens just happens.
And then in classic fashion the last line "I'm Finished!".
Just great stuff. And TWBB gets better with several views.
I'm still giving I Vice a chance.
Here's PTA interviewed about Vice.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bPB6GXG7Wa8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bPB6GXG7Wa8)