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Dudeist Religion => Dudeist Spiritualism => Topic started by: Shagbeard on February 07, 2014, 01:29:50 PM

Title: Religious Rites
Post by: Shagbeard on February 07, 2014, 01:29:50 PM
Are there any that see the rites as a religion should be defined? I have seen around the forum that the Caucasian/White Russian is considered a sacramental drink but not sure of the J. I think these are valid to be a religious rite to have set as part of the religion of Dudeism. If it is legal to marry people as a recognized religion then the sacrament of consumption of marijuana should be as well. There are others that have such things and wonder if could be done with our community around the rug?
Title: Re: Religious Rites
Post by: milnie on February 07, 2014, 02:30:23 PM
There have been several threads about tenets and rites and the general responses have always been not to have any. With no hard and fast rules it leaves dudeism free flowing and unconfined by dogma that could lead to disagreements (like we don't have enough of them already ;) and schisms
Title: Re: Religious Rites
Post by: Shagbeard on February 07, 2014, 03:33:19 PM
I think that you did not understand my blathering. not as in some dogma, but that it is part of the religion of Dudeism, therefore it should be under the RFRA as a religious right.
Title: Re: Religious Rites
Post by: The_Sleevez on February 07, 2014, 03:58:13 PM
I don't know but I am interested in weather or not it could be put through to legally allow the use of weed for religious purposes. Mind you I love in bc so if your caught it's like a parking fine as long as it's less than 30grams. Assuming they even bother to charge you usually the cops take it away and smoke it themselves. Lol
Title: Re: Religious Rites
Post by: milnie on February 07, 2014, 04:53:00 PM
Ah I get you now. Don't want to be a downer but think its only intended to let you practice what religion you want, not do what you want under the guise of religious requirement. That's a nasty slope to head down
Title: Re: Religious Rites
Post by: Shagbeard on February 07, 2014, 04:59:28 PM
Rastafarians do have the right and are mostly left alone regarding it. It is a fact that the Dude used weed to help keep his mind limber and this is a philosophy-religion built from the principles and acts of the Dude. That and the ancient philosophies that build the foundation use weed for same reasons and for medicine.
Title: Re: Religious Rites
Post by: Shagbeard on February 07, 2014, 05:24:14 PM
It is most likely that the other states will legalize over some time, but in general I see Dudeism as having weed and the drink Caucasian or Honky as sacraments. Might be just my opinion.
Title: Re: Religious Rites
Post by: meekon5 on February 07, 2014, 06:56:56 PM
Again we don't prescribe.

If you feel you need sacraments then that's your business, you will find much discussion here about not having sacraments because all that leads to is the petty subdivision that other religions are reduced to.
Title: Re: Religious Rites
Post by: Shagbeard on February 07, 2014, 07:47:00 PM
Quote from: meekon5 on February 07, 2014, 06:56:56 PM
Again we don't prescribe.

If you feel you need sacraments then that's your business, you will find much discussion here about not having sacraments because all that leads to is the petty subdivision that other religions are reduced to.
That is a bummer. Do not see it as petty nor subdivision. It is something that the whole thing would umbrella the darn human comedy.
Title: Re: Religious Rites
Post by: Yeti on February 08, 2014, 12:12:34 AM
Quote from: Shagbeard on February 07, 2014, 01:29:50 PM
Are there any that see the rites as a religion should be defined? I have seen around the forum that the Caucasian/White Russian is considered a sacramental drink but not sure of the J. I think these are valid to be a religious rite to have set as part of the religion of Dudeism. If it is legal to marry people as a recognized religion then the sacrament of consumption of marijuana should be as well. There are others that have such things and wonder if could be done with our community around the rug?

That sounds exhausting.

I consider myself a Dudeist and I haven't smoked weed in years, and I could legally smoke it here in Colorado if I wanted to. It turns me catatonic.
Title: Re: Religious Rites
Post by: meekon5 on February 08, 2014, 04:29:07 AM
Quote from: Shagbeard on February 07, 2014, 07:47:00 PM
Quote from: meekon5 on February 07, 2014, 06:56:56 PM
Again we don't prescribe.

If you feel you need sacraments then that's your business, you will find much discussion here about not having sacraments because all that leads to is the petty subdivision that other religions are reduced to.
That is a bummer. Do not see it as petty nor subdivision. It is something that the whole thing would umbrella the darn human comedy.

Not saying you can't. If that's your "bag" Dude, you can have all the sacrament you want. It's just we don't tell you that you have to have sacrament to be Dudeist.

Dude you can sacrament up the ying yang if you want.

;D
Title: Re: Religious Rites
Post by: Hominid on February 08, 2014, 04:35:36 AM
QuoteI consider myself a Dudeist and I haven't smoked weed in years, and I could legally smoke it here in Colorado if I wanted to. It turns me catatonic.

I know dude. Someone I know grows some really wicked shit, and every time any time I partake (and it's not often), I'm totalled for the next 2 days.  Hence my propensity for beer!
Title: Re: Religious Rites
Post by: Rev. Iconocclesiastes on February 08, 2014, 09:33:32 AM
Quote from: Shagbeard on February 07, 2014, 01:29:50 PM
Are there any that see the rites as a religion should be defined? I have seen around the forum that the Caucasian/White Russian is considered a sacramental drink but not sure of the J. I think these are valid to be a religious rite to have set as part of the religion of Dudeism. If it is legal to marry people as a recognized religion then the sacrament of consumption of marijuana should be as well. There are others that have such things and wonder if could be done with our community around the rug?

Personally, I do not believe that Dudeism should have sacraments, ceremonies, or rituals of any kind.  Having said that, I enjoy my inhalable flora too, and I think that it ought to be legal and all, but I do not believe that it ought to be a Dudeist sacrament.  As I wrote earlier, I do not believe that Dudeism ought to have any sacraments.  To each his own, man.  I mean, the Dude himself was probably an alcoholic (using the parlance of our times) and that's not good to emulate. 
Title: Re: Religious Rites
Post by: Rev. Iconocclesiastes on February 08, 2014, 09:47:52 AM
Now, I do support the "right of rite" that you propose, Shagbeard.  Take it if you want to, and don't if you don't.  But as far as turning alcohol and ganja into some kind of ceremonial Dudiest "sacrament" (like, a kind of Dudeist Communion), no.  That's too dogmatic for me.
Title: Re: Religious Rites
Post by: Shagbeard on February 08, 2014, 10:47:58 AM
Quote from: Rev. Iconocclesiastes on February 08, 2014, 09:47:52 AM
Now, I do support the "right of rite" that you propose, Shagbeard.  Take it if you want to, and don't if you don't.  But as far as turning alcohol and ganja into some kind of ceremonial Dudiest "sacrament" (like, a kind of Dudeist Communion), no.  That's too dogmatic for me.
Finally someone sees what i be saying.
But it will not be done so that one could say it is religious purpose so all for not.
Title: Re: Religious Rites
Post by: Rev. Iconocclesiastes on February 08, 2014, 10:54:48 AM
Quote from: Shagbeard on February 08, 2014, 10:47:58 AM
Finally someone sees what i be saying.
But it will not be done so that one could say it is religious purpose so all for not.

Not to be a smartass, Shagbeard, but I do not take your meaning here.  Do you mean, all for naught?  And if so, what exactly is all for naught?  Please clarify?