Also, today I nominate Tim Treadwell, subject of Werner Herzog's Grizzly Man, to be named a Great Dude in History. Treadwell wound up getting eaten by the bear, literally. And that's a very Dude way to die, in my book.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timothy_Treadwell (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timothy_Treadwell)
I'm sorry the guy was a looney who got eaten by a bear because he thought he was super human and able to talk to bears.
IMHDO I don't see much Dudeism there.
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In 2005, director Werner Herzog made Grizzly Man, a documentary about Treadwell's work with wildlife in Alaska. Released theatrically by Lions Gate Films, it later was telecast on the Discovery Channel. Treadwell's own footage is featured, along with interviews with people who knew him. Although Herzog praises Treadwell's video footage and photographs, he states his belief that Treadwell himself was a disturbed individual with a death wish. Treadwell's anthropomorphic treatment of wild animals was apparent in the documentary.
Quote from: meekon5 on January 30, 2014, 12:17:12 PM
I'm sorry the guy was a looney who got eaten by a bear because he thought he was super human and able to talk to bears.
IMHDO I don't see much Dudeism there.
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In 2005, director Werner Herzog made Grizzly Man, a documentary about Treadwell's work with wildlife in Alaska. Released theatrically by Lions Gate Films, it later was telecast on the Discovery Channel. Treadwell's own footage is featured, along with interviews with people who knew him. Although Herzog praises Treadwell's video footage and photographs, he states his belief that Treadwell himself was a disturbed individual with a death wish. Treadwell's anthropomorphic treatment of wild animals was apparent in the documentary.
Yeah, he was pretty nuts; still, though, he
literally got eaten by the bear. Like I said: that's, like, a very Dude way to die, if you ask me.
Quote from: meekon5 on January 30, 2014, 12:17:12 PM
I'm sorry the guy was a looney who got eaten by a bear because he thought he was super human and able to talk to bears.
IMHDO I don't see much Dudeism there.
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In 2005, director Werner Herzog made Grizzly Man, a documentary about Treadwell's work with wildlife in Alaska. Released theatrically by Lions Gate Films, it later was telecast on the Discovery Channel. Treadwell's own footage is featured, along with interviews with people who knew him. Although Herzog praises Treadwell's video footage and photographs, he states his belief that Treadwell himself was a disturbed individual with a death wish. Treadwell's anthropomorphic treatment of wild animals was apparent in the documentary.
Have you seen
Grizzly Man, meekon5?
Quote from: Rev. Iconocclesiastes on January 30, 2014, 12:40:43 PM
Quote from: meekon5 on January 30, 2014, 12:17:12 PM
I'm sorry the guy was a looney who got eaten by a bear because he thought he was super human and able to talk to bears.
IMHDO I don't see much Dudeism there.
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In 2005, director Werner Herzog made Grizzly Man, a documentary about Treadwell's work with wildlife in Alaska. Released theatrically by Lions Gate Films, it later was telecast on the Discovery Channel. Treadwell's own footage is featured, along with interviews with people who knew him. Although Herzog praises Treadwell's video footage and photographs, he states his belief that Treadwell himself was a disturbed individual with a death wish. Treadwell's anthropomorphic treatment of wild animals was apparent in the documentary.
Have you seen Grizzly Man, meekon5?
Yes and I didn't empathise with the guy
Quote from: meekon5 on January 30, 2014, 12:45:29 PM
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Quote from: meekon5 on January 30, 2014, 12:17:12 PM
I'm sorry the guy was a looney who got eaten by a bear because he thought he was super human and able to talk to bears.
IMHDO I don't see much Dudeism there.
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In 2005, director Werner Herzog made Grizzly Man, a documentary about Treadwell's work with wildlife in Alaska. Released theatrically by Lions Gate Films, it later was telecast on the Discovery Channel. Treadwell's own footage is featured, along with interviews with people who knew him. Although Herzog praises Treadwell's video footage and photographs, he states his belief that Treadwell himself was a disturbed individual with a death wish. Treadwell's anthropomorphic treatment of wild animals was apparent in the documentary.
Have you seen Grizzly Man, meekon5?
Yes and I didn't empathise with the guy
Me neither, to tell you the truth. He seemed pretty narcissistic, to me.
But I still say that Treadwell deserves posthumous Dudeist ordination, and to be named a Great Dude in History. He was eaten by the bear. That's super-dude, in my book.
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Quote from: meekon5 on January 30, 2014, 12:17:12 PM
I'm sorry the guy was a looney who got eaten by a bear because he thought he was super human and able to talk to bears.
IMHDO I don't see much Dudeism there.
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In 2005, director Werner Herzog made Grizzly Man, a documentary about Treadwell's work with wildlife in Alaska. Released theatrically by Lions Gate Films, it later was telecast on the Discovery Channel. Treadwell's own footage is featured, along with interviews with people who knew him. Although Herzog praises Treadwell's video footage and photographs, he states his belief that Treadwell himself was a disturbed individual with a death wish. Treadwell's anthropomorphic treatment of wild animals was apparent in the documentary.
Have you seen Grizzly Man, meekon5?
Yes and I didn't empathise with the guy
Me neither, to tell you the truth. He seemed pretty narcissistic, to me.
But I still say that Treadwell deserves posthumous Dudeist ordination, and to be named a Great Dude in History. He was eaten by the bear. That's super-dude, in my book.
But just being eaten by a bear does not a Dude make.
If that were the criteria then you'd have to include anyone who has been killed by a bear.
This is where I think you confuse the film with gospel. Just because it's in the film does not make it Dudeist.
We're back to the difference between the Dude in the film (and the guy he is based on in real life) being examples of Dudeism, not everything in the film being dudeism.
Whatever you say, meekon5 dude. Anyway, I still say that Treadwell deserves posthumous Dudeist ordination, and to be named a Great Dude in History.
What in gods name are you blathering about? I don't see this having anything to do with dudeism.
Quote from: The_Sleevez on January 30, 2014, 01:09:44 PM
What in gods name are you blathering about? I don't see this having anything to do with dudeism.
Well, that's just, like, your opinion, man.
Another guy was the subject of the film "into the wild" who went a similar way although he starved to death.
I can appreciate the getting back to nature aspect of it but don't think that qualifies as a Dudley cursor, more f'in stupidity.
Quote from: milnie on January 30, 2014, 02:43:18 PM
Another guy was the subject of the film "into the wild" who went a similar way although he starved to death.
I can appreciate the getting back to nature aspect of it but don't think that qualifies as a Dudley cursor, more f'in stupidity.
McCandless, I think his name was, yes. He was the one from
Into the Wild. He and Treadwell were both pretty dysfunctional individuals, apparently. Suicide by bear, that's what it was (in the case of Treadwell) if you ask me.
Having expressed that: I
stil say that Treadwell ought to be remembered as a Great Dude in History, regardless, or else at least rates an Honorable Mention.
Still can't see your argument with this one.
I group this guy with those idiots that talk to their pets like they are children.
He only survived for so long by pure luck.
If being eaten by a bear qualifies then so does everything else that is mentioned in the film.
Anyone jewish, anyone who converts to judeism, anyone who has a heart attack, dog owners, pederasts, short bold men that do dance, pornographers, porn stars, nihilists, all are dudeist by this measure. I can go on.
Marmots, rug pissers, Folger's coffee cans.
Quote from: meekon5 on January 30, 2014, 04:45:41 PM
Marmots, rug pissers, Folger's coffee cans.
Whatever you say, man.
Quote from: The_Sleevez on January 30, 2014, 01:09:44 PM
What in gods name are you blathering about? I don't see this having anything to do with dudeism.
There is a
literal connection... :)
I accept that there is a literal connection however it don't see the guy as representing dudeism in any way.
Quote from: The_Sleevez on January 30, 2014, 08:42:07 PM
I accept that there is a literal connection however it don't see the guy as representing dudeism in any way.
I agree, dude, the connection is literal at best.
This is what I'm trying to say. The phrase "Sometimes you eat the bear, sometimes the bear eats you" is not an automatic entry into Dudeism just if you are eaten by a bear.
Dudeism is not a version of christianity or islam where you conveniently twist the text of the film to your own end and purpose.
Dudeism here is a way of life exemplified by certain characters, one of which is the character the Dude in the film The Big Lebowski.
The film is not chapter and verse what makes a Dude.
Dudeism is not prescriptive, and no text, not the film (yes film counts as text because you have to write it down first, before it's made) or even the Dude De Ching, can tell you how to become a Dude, both are fingers pointing to the moon not the moon themselves.
Have a good look at other nominations for great Dude in History, Lao Tzu is not nominated because he was eaten by a bear, or even saw the film, but for the attitude with which he lived his life (that bit we have that is reported of it, even if it is not properly historically reported, and may be completely allegorical).
As I said before you may as well be saying "there's a chair in the movie, I sit on a chair, therefore my chair should be nominated as a Great Dude in History".
Stop confusing the finger pointing with the Moon.
;D
Quote from: meekon5 on January 31, 2014, 06:05:49 AM
As I said before you may as well be saying "there's a chair in the movie, I sit on a chair, therefore my chair should be nominated as a Great Dude in History".
Okay, but what if it's a really nice chair?
;D
Quote from: MindAbiding on January 31, 2014, 07:56:58 AM
Quote from: meekon5 on January 31, 2014, 06:05:49 AM
As I said before you may as well be saying "there's a chair in the movie, I sit on a chair, therefore my chair should be nominated as a Great Dude in History".
Okay, but what if it's a really nice chair?
;D
If it's a very Dudeist chair maybe.
What if it like ties the room together?.
If I am eaten by a bear or other wildlife, please don't add me to the list. Unless I was, like, saving the students of The Home of Wayward Naughty Schoolgirls.
His father told him he'd never amount to shit.
How wrong he was.
Quote from: BikerDude on January 31, 2014, 10:15:15 AM
His father told him he'd never amount to shit.
How wrong he was.
Haw haw haw. That's a good one, man. ;)
Quote from: Masked Dude on January 31, 2014, 09:30:46 AM
If I am eaten by a bear or other wildlife, please don't add me to the list. Unless I was, like, saving the students of The Home of Wayward Naughty Schoolgirls.
St Trinians?
Quote from: The_Sleevez on January 31, 2014, 09:29:45 AM
What if it like ties the room together?.
The rug really tied the room together but it was never a Dudeist.
Very Dudeist chair = hammock.
I find hammocks a bit tricky to navigate with a drink. How about an oversized beanbag - roll on roll off kind of thing?
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-0FxYCjh_SfA/US-tLLM5t3I/AAAAAAAABRU/oOFJgaHTD2I/s1600/origredboat.jpg)
A cup holder on the hammock! SCIENCE!
aww dammit, I screwed that one up
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-0FxYCjh_SfA/US-tLLM5t3I/AAAAAAAABRU/oOFJgaHTD2I/s1600/origredboat.jpg)
THere we go...
A very dude situation there. 8)